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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4800 on: August 14, 2019, 07:44:50 am »
While complacency is and would be a terrible thing, here's the latest state polling on Trump's job approval; the state-by-state numbers being important because that's how the game is played.

Trump is underwater in:

- Michigan (by 11)
- Pennsylvania (by 12)
- Wisconsin (by 10)
- North Carolina (by 9)
- Virginia (by 17)
- Utah (by 3)
- Texas (by 1)
- New Hampshire (by 26) (not a typo)
- Iowa (by 4)
- Arizona (by 9)
- Colorado (by 18)
- Florida (by 3)
- Georgia (by 5)
- Minnesota (by 15)
- Nevada (by 23)
- New Mexico (by 9)
- Ohio (by 2)

Also with:
- Independents (by 10)
- Women (by 25)
- Every age group except over 65s
- Every ethnic group except whites

While the Democrats' path to 270 is narrow, Trump's is narrower than his baby fingers wrapped around his micropenis.  In 2016 he threaded the needle by < 80,000 votes across MI, PA & WI and, right now, his job performance is disapproved of by double-digits in each of those uber-critical states.  He's also underwater in Ohio, Florida, Arizona, Texas, Georgia and U-fucking-tah.  Job disapproval doesn't necessarily translate into votes - hence the eleventying-down on the racism - but he can't afford to lose a single state he won last time and right now he's in danger of losing a lot of them.

It's the economy, stupid.  And while the Dow is good, that isn't trickling down to the miners and car workers and many, many others for whom he promised to make things great again.  He's also chopped off farmers at the knees and is trying desperately not to fuck up holiday shopping.

"His" people are the ones taking it in the ass the most; they should be the ones to run him out of the White House on a rail - a heavily reinforced, steel rail - directly into the waiting cuffs of a NY state trooper.

 There isn't a policy implemented that does not try to harm someone weaker than themselves.  I have no faith in the American people that vote to do the right thing to save this country.  I am just going to do what I can to try and make it better.

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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4801 on: August 14, 2019, 07:56:11 am »
There isn't a policy implemented that does not try to harm someone weaker than themselves.  I have no faith in the American people that vote to do the right thing to save this country.  I am just going to do what I can to try and make it better.

I do not believe for a second that Trump will not win Texas, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.  He will win a second term easily.  It simply doesn't matter what ridiculous  or evil thing he does or how he hurts people.  People will believe they deserved it and God wanted them to be punished by such a godly and honorable man.  Plus, Hillary used a private server. 
The rules of distinction were thrown out with the baseball cap.  It does not lend itself to protocol.  It is found today on youth in homes, classrooms, even in fine restaurants.  Regardless of its other consequences, this is a breach against civility.  A civilized man should avoid this mania.

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« Reply #4802 on: August 14, 2019, 08:11:29 am »
I do not believe for a second that Trump will not win Texas, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.  He will win a second term easily.  It simply doesn't matter what ridiculous  or evil thing he does or how he hurts people.  People will believe they deserved it and God wanted them to be punished by such a godly and honorable man.  Plus, Hillary used a private server. 

You are right.  My sister said this weekend that Hillary was more evil than Trump.  On what good green earth is that true?  My brother uses bible verses out of context to say the right is just and the left is foolish.  I have no doubt you are right.  As a country we are going to reap what we sow.

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« Reply #4803 on: August 14, 2019, 08:34:33 am »
You are right.  My sister said this weekend that Hillary was more evil than Trump.  On what good green earth is that true?  My brother uses bible verses out of context to say the right is just and the left is foolish.  I have no doubt you are right.  As a country we are going to reap what we sow.

And make no mistake...2020 will be Trump v Hillary again. No matter who the Dems run, it will be a referendum on Hillary. 
The rules of distinction were thrown out with the baseball cap.  It does not lend itself to protocol.  It is found today on youth in homes, classrooms, even in fine restaurants.  Regardless of its other consequences, this is a breach against civility.  A civilized man should avoid this mania.

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« Reply #4804 on: August 14, 2019, 10:18:39 am »
There isn't a policy implemented that does not try to harm someone weaker than themselves.  I have no faith in the American people that vote to do the right thing to save this country.  I am just going to do what I can to try and make it better.


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« Reply #4805 on: August 14, 2019, 12:42:47 pm »
Trump already floating conspiracy theories that Clinton had Epstein killed.  You know Hannity, who worships dines from the toilet in which Trump shits, is not going to let this go.  Ever.

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« Reply #4806 on: August 14, 2019, 08:17:24 pm »
Trump's re-election strategy is to run 2016 again; it's a purely base-based play.  He's going to go full bore on racial and social grievance.  Of course, he's been president for 4 years and, for many of those who gave him a try in 2016, he's made life significantly worse or, at best, has not moved their situation one iota upwards.  Coal jobs are not coming back, the manufacturing jobs he'd said he'd protect are still leaving and - notably - the GOP cannot get away from its Quixotic tilting against Obamacare*.

Trump is still wildly popular with self-identified Republicans.  What that doesn't tell you is that Trump is boiling off the moderates, notably including suburban women, so that he's wildly popular with a shrinking pool of voters.  The economy isn't working for his core voter - the white, non-college educated man - and it's quite possibly going to tank worse than 2008 before we get to the election**.

While I get that it's no slam dunk, he's going to need a longer series of miracles to pull off the shock he did in 2016.  Of course, there is still the possibility that the Democrats will hand it to him on a plate or that Russian interference will evolve from Facebook brain washing to simple vote tally hacking, but he's heavily underwater in a lot of the states he cannot lose and he alone will not be able to reverse that trend.

If the Dems don't shit the bed and Trump stays the course, the only variable I see here is guns.  It's going to be a big issue, and Democratic primary candidates are going to start running hard to the left on it.  Republicans are nothing but consistent in their ability to be rallied around a single cause, and gun reform could be that issue the same way gay marriage and abortion rights have been in the past.  But then, it could go the other way if the pitch is delivered correctly, because a lot of "real Americans" are scared to go to Walmart right now, and could be moved towards reform by the right proposal.


* Lindsey Graham's being the most recent, on the record, promise to repeal Obamacare.  The lunacy of it being that they've already stripped away the unpopular stuff, so all this does is take away all the popular stuff.

** The Dow tanked 800 points today and many are predicting a recession (even 2008 didn't see us going backwards).  Because Trump has already blown stimulating moves like tax cuts, and interest rates are already low, he has absolutely no economic tools left to bring to bear on a backsliding economy, even if he had the first clue how to use them.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4807 on: August 14, 2019, 10:02:55 pm »
The Dems can still win in 2020. I'm looking forward to the Gabbard VS Harris cat fight. Two women that needed not to ride a president's coat tails to eminence. Seriously, Hilary Clinton?!?!?!  Oh well, it almost worked, #ANARCHISTFORANYONEBUTTRUmP
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« Reply #4808 on: August 20, 2019, 10:30:35 pm »
And in typically unremarkable news Trump today said that Jews that vote Democratic (read 80% of American Jews) are disloyal and he is cancelling a trip to Denmark because they won’t discuss selling Greenland.
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« Reply #4809 on: August 21, 2019, 12:03:15 pm »
And in typically unremarkable news Trump today said that Jews that vote Democratic (read 80% of American Jews) are disloyal and he is cancelling a trip to Denmark because they won’t discuss selling Greenland.
Yes, very disloyal to the 2nd coming of God. Well he didn't actually say that himself. He was just tweeting a tweet when someone else said it.

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« Reply #4810 on: August 21, 2019, 12:20:11 pm »
Yes, very disloyal to the 2nd coming of God. Well he didn't actually say that himself. He was just tweeting a tweet when someone else said it.

He just walked out on the WH lawn and said “I am the chosen one.”

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« Reply #4811 on: August 21, 2019, 01:51:00 pm »
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« Reply #4812 on: August 23, 2019, 04:08:54 pm »
The President of the United States is decompensating right in front of us, but THIS IS FINE.
New day, new shit.  I found this excerpt in a WaPo article on Trump further fucking up trade.  It’s sadly funny:

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”The instruction for U.S. firms to leave China was quite stunning. I’m completely surprised by it,” said Alison Acosta Winters, senior policy fellow at Americans for Prosperity, a conservative group. She said there was “tremendous concern” among lawmakers, including congressional Republicans, about the direction of the trade war, which has hogtied the world’s two most powerful economic engines for more than a year.

Rather than owning the libs, this is something new.  Their fucking monster is tearing more shit up and there will be more damage to follow.

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« Reply #4813 on: August 23, 2019, 04:39:12 pm »
New day, new shit.  I found this excerpt in a WaPo article on Trump further fucking up trade.  It’s sadly funny:

Rather than owning the libs, this is something new.  Their fucking monster is tearing more shit up and there will be more damage to follow.

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« Reply #4814 on: August 24, 2019, 12:07:39 pm »
To paraphrase Alfred:  rather than admit a mistake, he'll burn it all to the ground.

Before he took office, people who’d reported on Trump over the years, predicted exactly this. 
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« Reply #4815 on: August 26, 2019, 11:48:14 am »
Before he took office, people who’d reported on Trump over the years, predicted exactly this. 

Heard on the radio this morning that he was seriously asking his "cabinet" why we couldn't drop a nuke on a hurricane in the Atlantic to keep it from hitting the US.
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« Reply #4816 on: August 26, 2019, 02:13:53 pm »
Heard on the radio this morning that he was seriously asking his "cabinet" why we couldn't drop a nuke on a hurricane in the Atlantic to keep it from hitting the US.
Why not just build a wall? That'll keep them out. #@Making weather great again.

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« Reply #4817 on: August 26, 2019, 02:52:47 pm »
Why not just build a wall? That'll keep them out. #@Making weather great again.

Who's gonna pay for that wall, though?

Just in case anyone thought I was joking:  https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html
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« Reply #4818 on: August 26, 2019, 04:14:18 pm »
Who's gonna pay for that wall, though?

Just in case anyone thought I was joking:  https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-bombs-hurricanes-97231f38-2394-4120-a3fa-8c9cf0e3f51c.html

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« Reply #4819 on: August 26, 2019, 04:27:26 pm »
Radiation and high winds go together like peanut butter and jelly


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