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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4280 on: February 13, 2019, 10:15:24 pm »
Trump would certainly fight a subpoena, and if he lost in court claim executive privilege for another go around.  He's got at least 4 to 6 years of court battles before any information gets released.  Who knows what the House will look like in 2025.  Mueller is on record as saying he will not go outside the chain of command and provide any information or testimony to anyone other than the Attorney General.  Don't expect a bombshell during Trump's turn in the White House.

The can subpoena Mueller to testify in person.  I’m not sure how the White House fights that, and they can then choose to release whatever they want. 
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4281 on: February 18, 2019, 10:44:37 am »
More on how it’s not our fault on why our taxes are fucked up.

I am in exactly the same boat as the example couple in the article:   I set my exemptions to 0, and I may well have underwitheld as a result.  Republicans couldn’t organize a piss-up at a brewery. 
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4282 on: February 18, 2019, 11:13:45 am »
FYI, the (apparently former) Trump-supporting lady in the article is getting slaughtered on Twitter for seemingly being ok with the lying, corruption, racism, dead kids in cages and treason, but jumping ship when her taxes went up.  I can see the point.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4283 on: February 19, 2019, 07:16:03 am »
Maxine Waters is going after Deutschdramat’s records regarding Trump Org business.  I hope she’s wearing protective garments because that is an ocean of nasty shit. 
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4284 on: February 19, 2019, 11:57:54 am »
More "Tales from the Swamp"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/top-trump-appointees-promoted-selling-nuclear-power-plants-to-saudi-arabia-over-objections-from-national-security-officials-house-democratic-report-says/2019/02/19/6a719762-3456-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.dc194269cdcd

Basically, Trump associates, including our ex-gov, trying to sell nuke plants over the objections on national security folks in the admin.  Follow the money through the most corrupt landscape in presidential history.

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The Cummings report notes that one of the power plant manufacturers that could benefit from a nuclear deal, Westinghouse Electric, is a subsidiary of Brookfield Asset Management, the company that provided financial relief to the family of Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and adviser. Brookfield Asset Management took a 99-year lease on the family’s deeply indebted New York City property at 666 Fifth Avenue.

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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4285 on: February 19, 2019, 12:27:18 pm »
I see where Senator Warren is now calling her proposal an 'Ultra Millionaire Tax.' Not quite as catchy as I had hoped, but I suppose we're moving in the right direction.

Which, of course, is to SOCIALISM like VENEZUELA!

So be sure to remain mindful of that or those downtrodden billionaires might see their taxes raised to, I don't know, where they were a year ago.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4286 on: February 19, 2019, 07:54:00 pm »
It’s interesting that Warren’s 2% wealth tax is far more lucrative than Cortez’ 70% marginal tax rate.  It’s just that 2% sounds less than 70%.  Of course, I’m not saying that it’s either/or...
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4287 on: February 21, 2019, 12:08:17 am »
Speaking of wealth and taxes and douchebags, Bregman squares one up.
Well, I guess that's the other Bregman...
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4288 on: February 21, 2019, 09:50:00 pm »
It turns out that much of the appropriated funds that Trump is planning to redirect to his wall under his emergency declaration...has already been spent. 

They’re really bad at this.
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« Reply #4289 on: February 22, 2019, 03:52:17 pm »
It's amazing the different stripes of corruption on display in this administration. Trump's secretary of labor broke federal law in order to cover up for Trump's millionaire serial child molester buddy. 
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« Reply #4290 on: February 23, 2019, 09:04:02 am »
It's amazing the different stripes of corruption on display in this administration. Trump's secretary of labor broke federal law in order to cover up for Trump's millionaire serial child molester buddy.

How the corruption Trump brought with him spread so easily through the upper eschlons of society is shocking.  It’s like the only thing that was holding back their inner scumbag was lack of permission.  I have read that the Epstein deal may now get set aside and he can be actually prosecuted.  That would be nice. 

The deal is amazing in that it effectively pardons all Epstein’s fellow travelers.  Let’s hope they all get rounded up, including any British royals and any sitting presidents (Trump was a frequent guest at Epstein’s parties and has commented openly about the volume of young girls at those events).

Epstein is a horror.  His lawyers and the prosecutors who made this bargain are forever stained with Epstein’s crimes.  Trump is a collection of every single negative trait possible in a human being.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4291 on: February 27, 2019, 09:22:49 am »
Cohen has receipts for election fraud and tax fraud.  If nothing else, this is justification to subpoena Trump’s financial records. 
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« Reply #4292 on: February 27, 2019, 09:41:39 am »
Cohen has receipts for election fraud and tax fraud.  If nothing else, this is justification to subpoena Trump’s financial records.

That confuses me. Wouldn't this have been part of Mueller's work?
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« Reply #4293 on: February 27, 2019, 09:59:16 am »
That confuses me. Wouldn't this have been part of Mueller's work?

I haven't been following the Cohen testimony, but if the election fraud is Stormy Daniels type campaign finance fraud, I think that would fall outside the purview of Mueller's investigation which is focused on foreign interference in the election.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4294 on: February 27, 2019, 10:18:40 am »
Yeah, all the election fraud/payoff stuff was transferred from Mueller to SDNY.

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« Reply #4295 on: February 27, 2019, 10:23:22 am »
Every time I get a chance to listen to Cohen's testimony, it's a Republican raving about the messenger.  If there is one Republican, who actually asks Cohen a substantive question in a real effort at Congressional oversight, it should be front page, top fold material in all the major rags.  Seems as if the entire party is grifters, grovelers and clowns.

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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4296 on: February 27, 2019, 10:49:55 am »
Every time I get a chance to listen to Cohen's testimony, it's a Republican raving about the messenger.  If there is one Republican, who actually asks Cohen a substantive question in a real effort at Congressional oversight, it should be front page, top fold material in all the major rags.  Seems as if the entire party is grifters, grovelers and clowns.

The next time a Republican congressman seeks to do anything other than gorvel Trump's schlong it'll be the first.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4297 on: February 27, 2019, 10:59:41 am »
Every time I get a chance to listen to Cohen's testimony, it's a Republican raving about the messenger.  If there is one Republican, who actually asks Cohen a substantive question in a real effort at Congressional oversight, it should be front page, top fold material in all the major rags.  Seems as if the entire party is grifters, grovelers and clowns.

What's funny to me is that they are trying to dismiss Cohen as a "convicted liar" when the lie he was convicted for is "Trump did nothing wrong."
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #4298 on: February 27, 2019, 11:01:22 am »
Not watching but reading along at the Guardian.  Cohen seems to be at least holding his own against efforts by Republicans to somehow discredit an already discredited man.  One of them even tried the “black friend” (or in this case, “black employee”) defense of the racism accusations, and got bitch slapped by Cohen.

Also, don’t forget that Jim Jordan for years had the locker next to a coach who molested numerous college athletes, and knew nothing about it.  How would that look if he was the one testifying?
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« Reply #4299 on: February 27, 2019, 11:15:45 am »
What's funny to me is that they are trying to dismiss Cohen as a "convicted liar" when the lie he was convicted for is "Trump did nothing wrong."

Stolen and sprinkled on Twitter like pixie dust.  Stolen pixie dust. 
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