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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2140 on: July 11, 2018, 10:14:16 am »
Yep.  But he's still an MP and thus can challenge for leadership of the party, which would make him Prime Minister - if he could keep May's coalition together.  To be honest, I wouldn't trust Boris to keep two pieces of Lego together, so all this is likely to devolve into further chaos and result in the calling of a general election.

Oof!  The (failing) NT Times lets Boris have it with both barrels.

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All of Mr. Johnson’s weaknesses have been exposed: his lazy reluctance to do detail, his preference for bluster over thinking, his contempt for business. The campaign was meant to secure his future; instead, in damaging the country, he fears he has wrecked his own future, too. As one of his allies told me last month: “He knows that the verdict of history is about to come down on him — and bury him.”

Does that description sound like anyone else?
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2141 on: July 11, 2018, 07:45:46 pm »
Why would it concern you?

They played cat and mouse with it. But I'm not really concerned about it.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2142 on: July 12, 2018, 08:09:27 am »
They played cat and mouse with it. But I'm not really concerned about it.

They didn't play cat and mouse; they confirmed very quickly that Obama had a legit birth certificate.  Conservative media and conservative demagogues - Trump being at the forefront* - ignored this and continued to claim that this wasn't settled.  It was settled, and it should never have been asked.

* Remember when Trump claimed to have sent investigators to Hawaii, and they were finding so much stuff?  Funny thing: he was lying, because he never sent anyone.
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« Reply #2143 on: July 12, 2018, 08:20:48 am »
It would be so inconvenient of you to keep on pointing out all these bald lies if any of the people who support him, tacitly or otherwise, gave a single damn.

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« Reply #2144 on: July 12, 2018, 08:46:55 am »
They didn't play cat and mouse; they confirmed very quickly that Obama had a legit birth certificate.  Conservative media and conservative demagogues - Trump being at the forefront* - ignored this and continued to claim that this wasn't settled.  It was settled, and it should never have been asked.

* Remember when Trump claimed to have sent investigators to Hawaii, and they were finding so much stuff?  Funny thing: he was lying, because he never sent anyone.

Even if he did send someone, he probably didn't pay them.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2145 on: July 12, 2018, 10:28:22 am »
Even if he did send someone, he probably didn't pay them.

Haha!  Exactly.
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« Reply #2146 on: July 12, 2018, 10:33:20 am »
Pompeo went to North Korea to try to get codified the things that Trump claimed already to have achieved, and got the complete runaround.  He was denied an audience with Kim Jong Un, had his schedule constantly fucked with, was sidelined by overly long meals and left with DPRK's foreign ministry decrying the U.S' "unilateral and gangster-like demand for denuclearization."

Remember, this is against the backdrop of Trump claiming that the threat from North Korea is over, while the press is reporting that their nuclear program has been accelerated.  So Trump gave Kim the meeting he so desperately craved for nothing in return.  Trump heaped praise on Kim for nothing in return.  Trump cancelled the joint exercises with South Korea for nothing in return, using North Korea's language when describing them as provocative.  And now that Kim has all these things he wanted, he's accelerating his nuclear program.

Just like moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, Trump has given up his bargaining chips without securing anything in return.  #TheBestDeals

This week, he will mostly be destroying the North Atlantic alliance and playing golf.

An update on the North Korea situation: one of the "concessions" that Trump got was that North Korea would return the remains of US service personnel killed in the Korean War.  I put "concessions" in quotes, because it's something they have been offering for a long time, like nuclear talks, but on which they have never followed through, like nuclear talks.  But, this time, there was a meeting set to arrange for the transfer.  Great!  Except, North Koreans simply didn't show.

Maybe Kim Jong Un will die laughing, because that's the only way this administration is going to get anything out of their efforts.  It's why no one else has given them the honor of meeting the President, because they're lying fuckers who will take it and run.  Which they did.  We now have nothing left to offer, so they are taking the piss and standing us up at scheduled, high-level meetings.

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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2147 on: July 12, 2018, 10:39:38 am »
It would be so inconvenient of you to keep on pointing out all these bald lies if any of the people who support him, tacitly or otherwise, gave a single damn.

I like speaking truth to willfully ignorant.  See also brick wall, head.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2148 on: July 12, 2018, 12:13:31 pm »
Beto O'Rourke raised over $10mm in the last quarter - as usual, none of it from special interest groups or PACs.  By comparison, Cruz raised less than half that amount over the same time.

Cruz is still the presumptive winner, but O'Rourke got handed a signature issue over the child separation debacle on the Texas border.  He's been all over national TV as a result and, IMHO, comes across very well - he seems especially adept at getting a strong message out in a small window.  At the very least, his public profile in Texas must have been raised a good few points because of this scandal.

I'm not suggesting it's a silver lining to a horrific situation, but the stark contrast between Beto's championing of the cause of these children and families, compared to Cruz'...what?  Seriously, what has he done or even said about this?  It's a pretty stark difference.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2149 on: July 12, 2018, 04:31:28 pm »
The Strzok hearing today was insane.  Strzok's contempt at being questioned by Trumpanzees like Gowdy and Gohmert was not only not hidden, it was worn like a badge of honor.

I think my favorite part was when the committee chairman tried to beat down Strzok because he was testifying under a subpoena, only for Strzok to point out (correctly) that he wasn't.  That was their first, best shot out of the gate and it landed like a marshmallow.  These are not smart people.

Fucking Issa (didn't he quit already) made Strzok read some of the more lurid and/or profane texts, and when Strzok edited out the profanity Issa made him read them again.  Completely unnecessary and done purely to make Strzok embarrassed or uncomfortable.  Issa was beating off under the desk...probably.
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« Reply #2150 on: July 12, 2018, 04:57:05 pm »
I've only caught a little (it's still going, btw as House Republicans can't get enough) and while I doubt it changes much public opinion, this type of public exposure surely doesn't help the Republicans in their attempt to thwart the investigation. 

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« Reply #2151 on: July 12, 2018, 06:51:16 pm »
I've only caught a little (it's still going, btw as House Republicans can't get enough) and while I doubt it changes much public opinion, this type of public exposure surely doesn't help the Republicans in their attempt to thwart the investigation.

It’s both hilarious and maddening.  Some twat is, right now, trying to retry the Clinton email issue.  Strzok is far smarter, ffar better informed and far better prepared than his interrogators.  A few have accused him of being smug, which is rich, but they stomp on their own dicks with almost every utterance. 
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2152 on: July 12, 2018, 07:03:58 pm »
Rep. Raskin has his own Veep moment, when he ran down a long list of Trump insults by fellow Republicans, to point out the hypocrisy of this kangaroo court.  It was a thing of beauty. 
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« Reply #2153 on: July 12, 2018, 07:10:09 pm »
It’s both hilarious and maddening.  Some twat is, right now, trying to retry the Clinton email issue.  Strzok is far smarter, ffar better informed and far better prepared than his interrogators.  A few have accused him of being smug, which is rich, but they stomp on their own dicks with almost every utterance. 

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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #2154 on: July 12, 2018, 07:13:22 pm »
These GOP goons will sink to levels before never known to defend their orange lord.  Gohmert had the gall to try to diminish and FBI agents character over an  affair, while simultaneously supporting a guy who fucked a pornstar while his wife was pregnant and has had who knows, 100s of adulterous affairs.  Amazing.
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« Reply #2155 on: July 12, 2018, 07:25:47 pm »
The complete lack of self awareness award goes to the lady from a Georgia who was indignant about Strzok’s affair, stating that it made him susceptible to blackmail.

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« Reply #2156 on: July 13, 2018, 02:09:49 pm »
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« Reply #2157 on: July 13, 2018, 02:12:44 pm »
Trump in the UK has been a disaster from start to finish, but with one more shoe to drop.  AF1 sat on the pan for about an hour before finally taking off, the press pool didn't know why, until they saw Piers Morgan deplaning.

He gave an "exit interview" to Piers Fucking Morgan.
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« Reply #2158 on: July 13, 2018, 02:22:16 pm »
Oh, and Mueller indicted 12 Russians - military intelligence all - for the underlying crime today: stealing Democratic campaign emails.  Trump has known this was coming for a couple of days, but is still claiming a witch hunt.  One juicy nugget is that the hacking of Clinton's personal and staff emails began the evening of the day that Trump asked if Russia was listening and if they could...you know...hack into Clinton's emails.  #NoCollusion

Interestingly, the indictment makes reference to an unnamed Republican candidate - not Trump - who was trying to get Clinton's emails from the Russians.  Given that Robert Mercer was bankrolling both Cambridge Analytica and Ted Cruz - it has to be Ted Cruz, right?  Please let it be Cruz!!
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« Reply #2159 on: July 13, 2018, 05:07:26 pm »
Oh, and Mueller indicted 12 Russians - military intelligence all - for the underlying crime today: stealing Democratic campaign emails.  Trump has known this was coming for a couple of days, but is still claiming a witch hunt.  One juicy nugget is that the hacking of Clinton's personal and staff emails began the evening of the day that Trump asked if Russia was listening and if they could...you know...hack into Clinton's emails.  #NoCollusion

Interestingly, the indictment makes reference to an unnamed Republican candidate - not Trump - who was trying to get Clinton's emails from the Russians.  Given that Robert Mercer was bankrolling both Cambridge Analytica and Ted Cruz - it has to be Ted Cruz, right?  Please let it be Cruz!!

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