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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #120 on: November 10, 2016, 10:55:27 am »
I love this.  No one, especially on the left, has gotten it right on Trump.  Trump the politician has never existed.  For all anyone knows he'll end his inauguration address with, "Screw it.  It's all your's Pence.  I'm out."  I have no idea if he'll run right, center, or left.  Or if he'll move in any direction over 4 years.  Or if he'll run again in 4 years.

For the record, I wrote my own name in.

there is no way this man can govern a country. I am certain the outcome surprised him as much as it did me. the throwing his hands up and quitting scenario also occurred to me.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #121 on: November 10, 2016, 01:12:58 pm »
there is no way this man can govern a country. I am certain the outcome surprised him as much as it did me. the throwing his hands up and quitting scenario also occurred to me.

I think it's unlikely that he'll quit,  but he may take the same approach to running the country that Clyde Drexler took to coaching, which is to say only showing up when absolutely necessary to maintain the appearance that he is actually doing something.


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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #122 on: November 10, 2016, 01:16:04 pm »
I think it's unlikely that he'll quit,  but he may take the same approach to running the country that Clyde Drexler took to coaching, which is to say only showing up when absolutely necessary to maintain the appearance that he is actually doing something.


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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #123 on: November 10, 2016, 03:10:39 pm »
I love this.  No one, especially on the left, has gotten it right on Trump.

I don't know what "it" is, but seems to me the foremost objection among people like me is that he is an (at best) amoral cynical opportunist and con-man, probably with narcissistic personality disorder, someone who is proud of his ignorance, probably delusional, and a bully. The "it" with Trump has never been about issues or ideology because there's no there there: he's covered most sides of every issue at one time or another. "It" has always been a question of character.

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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #124 on: November 10, 2016, 03:36:34 pm »
I don't know what "it" is, but seems to me the foremost objection among people like me is that he is an (at best) amoral cynical opportunist and con-man, probably with narcissistic personality disorder, someone who is proud of his ignorance, probably delusional, and a bully. The "it" with Trump has never been about issues or ideology because there's no there there: he's covered most sides of every issue at one time or another. "It" has always been a question of character.

I think the "it" Jacksonian is referring to is the appeal of Trump.  Which is far more complex than anyone in either party seemed willing to grasp.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #125 on: November 10, 2016, 04:11:00 pm »
I don't know what "it" is, but seems to me the foremost objection among people like me is that he is an (at best) amoral cynical opportunist and con-man, probably with narcissistic personality disorder, someone who is proud of his ignorance, probably delusional, and a bully. The "it" with Trump has never been about issues or ideology because there's no there there: he's covered most sides of every issue at one time or another. "It" has always been a question of character.

And Mrs. Clinton's character?

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« Reply #126 on: November 10, 2016, 04:19:35 pm »
And Mrs. Clinton's character?

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« Reply #127 on: November 10, 2016, 04:24:12 pm »
Assassinated.

It was a series of self-inflicted wounds.
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« Reply #128 on: November 10, 2016, 04:28:27 pm »
I agree. She was an awful candidate, but it was her turn to bat. I was pleasantly surprised by the result. Trump successfully painted Hillary as the establishment candidate, when the public was anti-establishment. His "drain the swamp" message resonated.

The onus is now on the Republicans to govern. We need some real leadership in the worst way and to facilitate more economic development and to spread that to the middle class. The beauty of this situation is Trump is really not beholden to any major special interest groups, and he will be as much a thorn in the establishment Republicans' sides as anyone else.

I'm very much looking forward to his first 100 days to see what he can accomplish.

I'm confused. I thought you told us you were voting for Clinton.

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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #129 on: November 10, 2016, 05:16:47 pm »
I'll be cabinet-appointee watching.

It's going to be an odd mix. 
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #130 on: November 10, 2016, 05:19:05 pm »
there is no way this man can govern a country. I am certain the outcome surprised him as much as it did me. the throwing his hands up and quitting scenario also occurred to me.

I wonder how many frantic phone calls he had to make to postpone Trump TV.
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« Reply #131 on: November 10, 2016, 05:35:41 pm »
I'm confused. I thought you told us you were voting for Clinton.

I just couldn't do it. My experience with her back in the 80's with the Rose Law Firm was just too much to ignore. I thought that she'd win for sure.
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« Reply #132 on: November 10, 2016, 05:42:45 pm »
I just couldn't do it. My experience with her back in the 80's with the Rose Law Firm was just too much to ignore. I thought that she'd win for sure.

Did you come home to Trump or did you write in John Kasich?
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #133 on: November 11, 2016, 10:18:46 am »
And how is feminism not sexist.

Feminism = "Everyone should be treated equally regardless of gender."

Sexism = "No they shouldn't."
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #134 on: November 11, 2016, 11:14:39 am »
Feminism = "Everyone should be treated equally regardless of gender."

Sexism = "No they shouldn't."

Sphinxism = "Get off my lawn!"
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« Reply #135 on: November 11, 2016, 12:26:28 pm »
Feminism = "Everyone should be treated equally regardless of gender."
Thanks for straightening that out.  I guess that trumps simply treating everyone equally. That's why they gave it a name.
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« Reply #136 on: November 11, 2016, 12:32:54 pm »
Sphinxism = "Get off my lawn!"
Right. Unless you're there to rake leaves.
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« Reply #137 on: November 11, 2016, 01:56:06 pm »
Right. Unless you're there to rake leaves.
Or brought beer.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #138 on: November 11, 2016, 02:34:27 pm »
Did you come home to Trump or did you write in John Kasich?

Kasich is a tool. I voted for Trump, primarily for his anti-establishment message.
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Re: Roger Angell on "Most Important" Vote of His Lifetime
« Reply #139 on: November 11, 2016, 03:12:54 pm »
Aaaaaaand........ we're off.  Christie out as transition head.  Pence in.
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