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« on: August 10, 2016, 03:34:38 pm »
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Re: Gomez
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2016, 03:38:02 pm »
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The whole thing is rather sad, really.  I really don't believe it was lack of effort, as some have said.  I just think the talent isn't there anymore. 

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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2016, 03:40:38 pm »
It is sad.  There is part of me that hates to see this happen to anyone, but it also seems necessary.

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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2016, 03:46:14 pm »
Gomez thanked Astros for opportunity: "I know I didn't do my best. I wish the best to them. They have a great team and organization."

Thanks to him for his efforts. Shame it didn't work out.


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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2016, 03:48:31 pm »
I agree it is sad. By all accounts, he was a great teammate and well-liked in the clubhouse. The only quote I have seen from him acknowledged he did not do his job and expressed disappointment in himself. I know many here will be gleeful, but I am not.
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2016, 03:52:29 pm »
I am gleeful that the Astros have chosen a path that will likely lead to Marisnick in centerfield most of the time.
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2016, 03:52:51 pm »
The whole thing is rather sad, really.  I really don't believe it was lack of effort, as some have said.  I just think the talent isn't there anymore.

Me too. He is too prideful to have done anything but his best effort. Sad to see a top athlete lose it at such a young age. But I also feel bad for the Astros for the deal working out like it did.

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2016, 03:56:24 pm »
Apparent Jandel Gustave is in town to take the roster spot.

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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2016, 04:05:29 pm »
I am gleeful that the Astros have chosen a path that will likely lead to Marisnick in centerfield most of the time.

I like Marisnick in CF too.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2016, 04:10:48 pm »
His rapid decline is almost inexplicable. The quality of his play in all facets eroded in recent weeks to levels that were simply not tolerable at the major league level. Luhnow is likely the most mystified by it all. The irony is that Stearns obviously is too, but he may end up benefiting from it.


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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2016, 04:14:34 pm »
Do you guys think this means Luhnow probably won't sign him to an extension?
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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2016, 04:15:20 pm »
His rapid decline is almost inexplicable. The quality of his play in all facets eroded in recent weeks to levels that were simply not tolerable at the major league level. Luhnow is likely the most mystified by it all. The irony is that Stearns obviously is too, but he may end up benefiting from it.


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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2016, 04:19:59 pm »
The more I watched Gomez, the more I became convinced that his antics were not hot dogging but an expression of his enthusiasm for the game.

   
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2016, 04:43:59 pm »
I am sad that Gomez didn't work out but I am not sad the trade happened.  Fiers has been a pleasant surprise as a back of the rotation starter. 

The players that we gave up, sounded like outstanding prospects at the time.  Has anyone claiming the Astros lost the trade even looked at what they are doing this year?

Hader is 0-4 with a 5.76 ERA in 50 AAA innings
Phillips is hitting .223 in 102 AA Games.
Houser is 3-7 with a 5.25 ERA in 70 AA innings and has been on the DL with TJ surgery
Santana has been injured just about all season and is currently in High A ball on a rehab assignment for a shoulder injury. 

Doesn't look like the trade is turning out great for either side.
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2016, 04:50:38 pm »
I am sad that Gomez didn't work out but I am not sad the trade happened.  Fiers has been a pleasant surprise as a back of the rotation starter. 

The players that we gave up, sounded like outstanding prospects at the time.  Has anyone claiming the Astros lost the trade even looked at what they are doing this year?

Hader is 0-4 with a 5.76 ERA in 50 AAA innings
Phillips is hitting .223 in 102 AA Games.
Houser is 3-7 with a 5.25 ERA in 70 AA innings and has been on the DL with TJ surgery
Santana has been injured just about all season and is currently in High A ball on a rehab assignment for a shoulder injury. 

Doesn't look like the trade is turning out great for either side.

When the trade happened I only looked at Phillips and Hader as real losses.  Something happened with Phillips after the deal.  I know he got hurt late last year, but this year too he's been a swing and miss machine.  He was never that kind of hitter with the Astros.  Hader's only had 10 games at AAA and half his starts are at the Colorado Springs team, a notorious launching pad.  He was lights out in AA.  But none of those 4 would have helped the Astros last year or this year.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2016, 05:02:48 pm »
This may make some eyes roll, but I have followed Gomez on Instagram since we got him and he posted tons of offseason videos of random leisurely crap like him salsa dancing, him hanging out at the beach, etc.  And I'm not saying just a few, it was like every other day for the entire offseason.  Nothing offensive, troublesome, or JFF-like - more than anything it was annoying because it was filling up my timeline.  As comparison - Correa and Altuve posted tons of offseason videos of them working out and getting in shape for the season.

Maybe it's nothing, but I kept thinking about that during the season as he struggled.

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2016, 05:12:07 pm »
I am sad that Gomez didn't work out but I am not sad the trade happened.  Fiers has been a pleasant surprise as a back of the rotation starter. 

The players that we gave up, sounded like outstanding prospects at the time.  Has anyone claiming the Astros lost the trade even looked at what they are doing this year?

Hader is 0-4 with a 5.76 ERA in 50 AAA innings
Phillips is hitting .223 in 102 AA Games.
Houser is 3-7 with a 5.25 ERA in 70 AA innings and has been on the DL with TJ surgery
Santana has been injured just about all season and is currently in High A ball on a rehab assignment for a shoulder injury. 

Doesn't look like the trade is turning out great for either side.

I wouldn't write off Hader and Phillips yet. LHers develop more slowly (Hader).

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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2016, 05:47:56 pm »
I am gleeful that the Astros have chosen a path that will likely lead to Marisnick in centerfield most of the time.

This. I wish Gomez had played better, and I wish him the best.. But the fact is he wasn't performing and needs to be replaced. That's the business he's chosen.
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2016, 05:49:08 pm »
I wouldn't write off Hader and Phillips yet. LHers develop more slowly (Hader).

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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2016, 05:50:42 pm »
This. I wish Gomez had played better, and I wish him the best.. But the fact is he wasn't performing and needs to be replaced. That's the business he's chosen.

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2016, 06:36:21 pm »
I hope we do not find out down the road that he is ill. I hope it is nothing more than early onset erosion of skills.

McCutchen is 29 and he is not having a great year by his standards. Not Gomez bad but certainly a disappointment. Erosion of skills at 29? Maybe.

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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2016, 07:16:18 pm »
I am sad that Gomez didn't work out but I am not sad the trade happened.  Fiers has been a pleasant surprise as a back of the rotation starter. 

The players that we gave up, sounded like outstanding prospects at the time.  Has anyone claiming the Astros lost the trade even looked at what they are doing this year?

Hader is 0-4 with a 5.76 ERA in 50 AAA innings
Phillips is hitting .223 in 102 AA Games.
Houser is 3-7 with a 5.25 ERA in 70 AA innings and has been on the DL with TJ surgery
Santana has been injured just about all season and is currently in High A ball on a rehab assignment for a shoulder injury. 

Doesn't look like the trade is turning out great for either side.
Too me it does not matter if you "won" or "lost" a trade. What matters is, did the trade work out. In this case it was an absolute failure.

I was excited when they made the deal. I'm very sad it didn't work out and I wish Gomez luck going forward and I hope he gets back on track somewhere.

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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2016, 10:36:45 pm »
McCutchen is 29 and he is not having a great year by his standards. Not Gomez bad but certainly a disappointment. Erosion of skills at 29? Maybe.

Maybe they'll start limiting how many plate appearances they get during the season.  Also, have them sit out play-off series.


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« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2016, 11:31:51 pm »
This. I wish Gomez had played better, and I wish him the best.. But the fact is he wasn't performing and needs to be replaced. That's the business he's chosen.
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2016, 08:00:01 am »
Too me it does not matter if you "won" or "lost" a trade. What matters is, did the trade work out. In this case it was an absolute failure.

I was excited when they made the deal. I'm very sad it didn't work out and I wish Gomez luck going forward and I hope he gets back on track somewhere.

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He seemed to have give up a lot, but I wouldn't call it an absolute failure. Fiers has pitched very well at times when we needed it and is controllable for another year or two IIRC.
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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2016, 08:44:32 am »
I don’t mind being the odd man out, I don’t like him and never have.  When a guy wears an Astros uniform for a while I will generally warm to them a bit, but not this guy.   I am not sure it is all over for him though, if he gets another chance and gets a bit of form back, I expect he will revert back to the butthead he has been in the past.
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« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2016, 08:59:07 am »
I don’t mind being the odd man out, I don’t like him and never have.  When a guy wears an Astros uniform for a while I will generally warm to them a bit, but not this guy.   I am not sure it is all over for him though, if he gets another chance and gets a bit of form back, I expect he will revert back to the butthead he has been in the past.

No team he has ever been on has considered him "a butthead." He has been a popular teammate. Don't let that stop you, though.
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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2016, 09:07:38 am »
I feel bad for Gomez.  Hard to see someone who works as hard as he does fail so badly.  But happy to see the Astros make a move that just weeks ago seemed needed but at the same time also seemed never going to happen.  Addition by subtraction.  Marisnick is a significant upgrade to Gomez, with or without his bat.  Still need someone to step up in left, first and DH.  That's still a lot of holes.  Tucker doesn't seem to have it in him.  Gurriel is at least a week away,  so is Valbuena.  Might be helpful if Marwin got hot again.

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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2016, 10:07:52 am »
Got tired of watching him fall down striking out with his helmet flying off and his absolute bonehead mistakes in the field and on the base paths.  Marisnick is a much better player at this point.

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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2016, 10:14:27 am »
I agree with the DFA because of the dramatic erosion of his skills. I will continue to disagree with the belief he is a bad guy and with the ridiculous comment he was "poison" for the team. He was having a very bad year, but others are right there with him.
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« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2016, 10:22:01 am »
The Mets backed out of the trade for him last year because of a hip issue.  I'll bet his performance was directly affected by this.

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« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2016, 10:24:18 am »
I feel bad for Gomez.  Hard to see someone who works as hard as he does fail so badly.  But happy to see the Astros make a move that just weeks ago seemed needed but at the same time also seemed never going to happen.  Addition by subtraction.  Marisnick is a significant upgrade to Gomez, with or without his bat.  Still need someone to step up in left, first and DH.  That's still a lot of holes.  Tucker doesn't seem to have it in him.  Gurriel is at least a week away,  so is Valbuena.  Might be helpful if Marwin got hot again.

I also always feel terrible for the player. It was obvious that he was trying, but his skills just seem to have eroded below big league standards. Luhnow and Hinch gave him plenty of opportunities too.

I hope that he rights his career or retires with dignity if his skills don't return. While I didn't care for some of his antics with the Brewers, he apparently was a beloved teammate and, contrary to what I had thought before, was not a clubhouse cancer. He also was a very good baseball player just a few years ago. I wish him all the best, but the move was necessary.
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« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2016, 11:05:44 am »
On what do you base this?

I remember hearing growing this growing up, most likely on the NBC Game of the Week....probably Garagiola. I heard it more than once. Obviously not science.

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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2016, 10:09:37 am »
I don’t mind being the odd man out, I don’t like him and never have.  When a guy wears an Astros uniform for a while I will generally warm to them a bit, but not this guy.   I am not sure it is all over for him though, if he gets another chance and gets a bit of form back, I expect he will revert back to the butthead he has been in the past.

Exactly....The guy just did not fit. The flipping of the bat on long outs. The over swinging in clutch situations. Misplaying fly balls on a regular basis.That was the reason behind my "poison" comment. Never could warm up to this guy being part of this team.

JimR...where does your love for this guy come from? Where did he perform as an Astro? As a clubhouse guy?
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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2016, 10:19:16 am »
Exactly....The guy just did not fit. The flipping of the bat on long outs. The over swinging in clutch situations. Misplaying fly balls on a regular basis.That was the reason behind my "poison" comment. Never could warm up to this guy being part of this team.

JimR...where does your love for this guy come from? Where did he perform as an Astro? As a clubhouse guy?

He "fit" perfectly well.  He just didn't play very well, which is particularly surprising given his recent history.  He was an all-star in 2013 and 2014 and received multiple MVP votes each year.  He loved being on the Astros and his teammates loved him.   This notion that he is "poison" or a "cancer" or a degenerate hot-dog comes only from viewers like you, and not anyone actually in the situation.  It is pure bullshit.  If you want to make this into some sort of hackneyed morality play knock yourself out, just don't expect anyone who has paid even half-attention to the team to buy it.
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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2016, 10:22:24 am »
Exactly....The guy just did not fit. The flipping of the bat on long outs. The over swinging in clutch situations. Misplaying fly balls on a regular basis.That was the reason behind my "poison" comment. Never could warm up to this guy being part of this team.

JimR...where does your love for this guy come from? Where did he perform as an Astro? As a clubhouse guy?

bat flips? so you hate Valbuena too? poor OF play? you hate Tucker too? weak performance at the plate. you hate Rasmus too?

I do not love him, but I liked him. He was an Astro. he was a popular teammate on each team he was on.
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2016, 10:26:30 am »
He "fit" perfectly well.  He just didn't play very well, which is particularly surprising given his recent history.  He was an all-star in 2013 and 2014 and received multiple MVP votes each year.  He loved being on the Astros and his teammates loved him.   This notion that he is "poison" or a "cancer" or a degenerate hot-dog comes only from viewers like you, and not anyone actually in the situation.  It is pure bullshit.  If you want to make this into some sort of hackneyed morality play knock yourself out, just don't expect anyone who has paid even half-attention to the team to buy it.

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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2016, 10:30:30 am »
Did not say I hated him...just glad I don't have to watch him in an Astros uniform anymore.

It was painful to see his name in the lineup night after night. He sucked.
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2016, 11:45:36 am »
Did not say I hated him...just glad I don't have to watch him in an Astros uniform anymore.

It was painful to see his name in the lineup night after night. He sucked.

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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2016, 01:39:10 pm »
When the trade happened last year, I was really excited.  I thought Gomez could be a Mike Cameron type centerfielder for the club.  It just didn't work out. That said, you can't question the guy has passion for the game and gives max effort.  Ironically, it's his max effort swing that contributed to him losing his job.  For a short stretch in June, he started to be short to the ball and disciplined at the plate, and he was a productive offensive player that month.  But he couldn't sustain it. 
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2016, 02:55:41 pm »


Cardinals, Mets Interested In Carlos Gomez
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/cardinals-interested-carlos-gomez-rumor.html

He'll likely get another shot, hopefully for him this was either the wake up call he needed or a coach can sort out what's wrong.

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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2016, 03:01:29 pm »
MLBTR also mentions the Mets might actually trade for Gomez. They've really soured on d'Arnaud. Maybe a change of scenery does them both some good?

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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2016, 03:28:00 pm »
He'll likely get another shot, hopefully for him this was either the wake up call he needed or a coach can sort out what's wrong.

If by 'coach' you mean 'optometrist' then I think you might be on to something.
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« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2016, 07:38:09 pm »
Huh?

1. Carlos Gomez, OF, Astros — With about $3.5 million left on his deal, it would appear Gomez would clear waivers, and the expectation is he’ll receive some interest. According to one major league source, “Carlos just never blended in with the people associated with that team. He never felt comfortable there.” The Cardinals and Mets have been reported to have the most interest in Gomez, but there could be others.

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« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2016, 08:01:32 pm »
Huh?

1. Carlos Gomez, OF, Astros — With about $3.5 million left on his deal, it would appear Gomez would clear waivers, and the expectation is he’ll receive some interest. According to one major league source, “Carlos just never blended in with the people associated with that team. He never felt comfortable there.” The Cardinals and Mets have been reported to have the most interest in Gomez, but there could be others.

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« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2016, 08:35:01 pm »
No team he has ever been on has considered him "a butthead." He has been a popular teammate. Don't let that stop you, though.
My likes and dislikes may be valid or irrational, I don’t give that too much thought because I am pretty sure he doesn’t actually give a fuck what some bloke in Australia thinks anyway.
I thought it was funny how when he first joined the team that everyone associated with the club (players, coaches, tv & radio guys) seemed to go out of their way and constantly say what a great guy Carlos was and how much everyone loved him.  Not sure I have seen done that much before?
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« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2016, 09:43:49 pm »
My likes and dislikes may be valid or irrational, I don’t give that too much thought because I am pretty sure he doesn’t actually give a fuck what some bloke in Australia thinks anyway.
I thought it was funny how when he first joined the team that everyone associated with the club (players, coaches, tv & radio guys) seemed to go out of their way and constantly say what a great guy Carlos was and how much everyone loved him.  Not sure I have seen done that much before?

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« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2016, 09:24:33 am »
Huh?

1. Carlos Gomez, OF, Astros — With about $3.5 million left on his deal, it would appear Gomez would clear waivers, and the expectation is he’ll receive some interest. According to one major league source, “Carlos just never blended in with the people associated with that team. He never felt comfortable there.” The Cardinals and Mets have been reported to have the most interest in Gomez, but there could be others.

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Perhaps "people associated with the team" are people  other than his teammates.

If we are just bystanders and observers and the guy rubs many of us the wrong way I think it would be a safe bet that he rubbed many of the team or those associated with the team the wrong way.
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« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2016, 11:53:19 am »
Perhaps "people associated with the team" are people  other than his teammates.

If we are just bystanders and observers and the guy rubs many of us the wrong way I think it would be a safe bet that he rubbed many of the team or those associated with the team the wrong way.

I don't what to say to "if I don't like him, many associated with the team don't like him either."

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« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2016, 12:52:00 pm »
I've been trying to make sense of this. Of course the source could be nonsense. But if there is something to it, where was the conflict? By all reports his teammates liked him. Hinch strikes me very much as a player's manager, and I can't imagine anyone not wanting to play for him. I'm seeing this from afar, though, so I could be completely mistaken about Hinch although I haven't heard a single whisper about players not liking Hinch. And Luhnow, I do know players don't like or trust him but of course it was Luhnow who loved Gomez more than anyone and went well out of his way to acquire the guy in the first place. So Gomez's feeling uncomfortable with the FO seems odd, too. It's intriguing.
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« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2016, 10:21:43 pm »
"Everyone says great things about him, therefore they definitely don't like him."  Well, that's a new one.
That is not what I was trying to say.

The spin associated with Gomez is to do with perception of him outside of the clubhouse.

So, the Astros get a guy who is misunderstood (at best) or very disliked (at worst).  Not a great way to sell jerseys or put arses in seats so they better talk him up a bit.  And so they have talked and talked about what a great guy he is.  I have no doubt the other guys liked him, it sure looked like they were having fun, especially while they were winning.  I just think the amount of spin was over the top, he is now apparently a cross between Roberto Clemente and the Fonz.  It seems like everyone said the right PC things and toed the company line.  What is funny to me is that in the event that the Astros again traded for someone who has an image problem (say an odorous little Ranger) all the same or similar spin would be repeated.  I didn’t think I was the most cynical poster here, but maybe I am? 
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« Reply #52 on: August 15, 2016, 08:38:08 am »
That is not what I was trying to say.

The spin associated with Gomez is to do with perception of him outside of the clubhouse.

So, the Astros get a guy who is misunderstood (at best) or very disliked (at worst).  Not a great way to sell jerseys or put arses in seats so they better talk him up a bit.  And so they have talked and talked about what a great guy he is.  I have no doubt the other guys liked him, it sure looked like they were having fun, especially while they were winning.  I just think the amount of spin was over the top, he is now apparently a cross between Roberto Clemente and the Fonz.  It seems like everyone said the right PC things and toed the company line.  What is funny to me is that in the event that the Astros again traded for someone who has an image problem (say an odorous little Ranger) all the same or similar spin would be repeated.  I didn’t think I was the most cynical poster here, but maybe I am?

Usually when teams acquire players that have image problems, you hear nothing about what a great guy they are.  If you hear anything you just hear, I only care about if he helps us win games.  Why are you so sure that it is spin about Carlos Gomez being a great guy??  Did it cross your mind that maybe the reason that so many people talked about what a great guy he was, is because he is a great guy?  That seems much more logical that assuming that the Front Office managed to bribe or force every players to come out and talk about what a great guy he is, when they actually dislike him.

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« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2016, 09:06:53 am »
That is not what I was trying to say.

The spin associated with Gomez is to do with perception of him outside of the clubhouse.

So, the Astros get a guy who is misunderstood (at best) or very disliked (at worst).  Not a great way to sell jerseys or put arses in seats so they better talk him up a bit.  And so they have talked and talked about what a great guy he is.  I have no doubt the other guys liked him, it sure looked like they were having fun, especially while they were winning.  I just think the amount of spin was over the top, he is now apparently a cross between Roberto Clemente and the Fonz.  It seems like everyone said the right PC things and toed the company line.  What is funny to me is that in the event that the Astros again traded for someone who has an image problem (say an odorous little Ranger) all the same or similar spin would be repeated.  I didn’t think I was the most cynical poster here, but maybe I am?

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« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2016, 09:16:16 am »
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« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2016, 11:29:05 am »
Usually when teams acquire players that have image problems, you hear nothing about what a great guy they are.

I remember vividly a morning in March of 2010 when Brad Mills and Ed Wade stood in front of me and several others talking about what a great guy Brett Myers was. I think that was the last I ever heard of Brett Myers being a great guy.
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I remember vividly a morning in March of 2010 when Brad Mills and Ed Wade stood in front of me and several others talking about what a great guy Brett Myers was. I think that was the last I ever heard of Brett Myers being a great guy.

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« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2016, 05:48:02 pm »
arent they all grown men and professionals who get paid to do a job
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« Reply #58 on: August 15, 2016, 06:09:41 pm »
Wow! How did you figure that one out?

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« Reply #59 on: August 15, 2016, 06:29:58 pm »
Well, she put more thought into it than looking at their batting average.


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« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2016, 09:35:21 am »
I don't know about all of that.

among many other things....
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among many other things....
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« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2016, 10:12:28 am »
You know everything don't you?

I'm confident he knows a lot more than you.
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« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2016, 10:54:49 am »
You know everything don't you?

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« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2016, 10:56:37 am »
no, but the difference between us is I know what I do not know.
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Who is going to win tonight? The score?

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Who is going to win tonight? The score?

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Shut up

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Are you in kindergarten? How would you know?

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« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2016, 01:47:49 pm »
Are you in kindergarten? How would you know?

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« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2016, 11:49:54 am »
Are you in kindergarten? How would you know?
Dude. This is fucking painful to read. Give it a fucking rest. Nobody comes here to read shit like this, just like nobody goes to a baseball game to see Angel Hernandez make shitty calls and show his ass repeatedly.
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« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2016, 02:23:04 pm »
Shut up

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« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2016, 04:53:17 pm »
Be patient. Everyone knows Knuckleballs are a little slow and have some strange movements.

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« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2016, 08:41:42 pm »
Nobody comes here to read shit like this, just like nobody goes to a baseball game to see Angel Hernandez make shitty calls and show his ass repeatedly.
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« Reply #80 on: August 20, 2016, 03:38:33 pm »
Of course.  Can't wait for him to hit .400 against the Astros.

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The Rangers view Gomez as an upgrade over Delino DeShields...
Let's just take a moment to reflect on the fact that in the same Rule 5 Draft where Dallas plucked DeShields from the Astros system, they lost 2016 All-Star CF Odubel Herrera to the Phillies.
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Let's just take a moment to reflect on the fact that in the same Rule 5 Draft where Dallas plucked DeShields from the Astros system, they lost 2016 All-Star CF Odubel Herrera to the Phillies.

That would be more enjoyable if they didn't have a twelve game lead on the Astros.
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« Reply #85 on: August 20, 2016, 05:42:39 pm »
Let's just take a moment to reflect on the fact that in the same Rule 5 Draft where Dallas plucked DeShields from the Astros system, they lost 2016 All-Star CF Odubel Herrera to the Phillies.

I just hope he is as successful there as he was in Houston.

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Let's just take a moment to reflect on the fact that in the same Rule 5 Draft where Dallas plucked DeShields from the Astros system, they lost 2016 All-Star CF Odubel Herrera to the Phillies.
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« Reply #87 on: August 23, 2016, 09:38:13 am »
In early returns Gomez is 4-9 with two extra base hits and 3ks at Round Rock. I fully expect him to do very well with east Ft. Worth. Just because.

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In early returns Gomez is 4-9 with two extra base hits and 3ks at Round Rock. I fully expect him to do very well with east Ft. Worth. Just because.
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« Reply #90 on: August 25, 2016, 09:41:37 am »
Gomez to join the Rangers today after 4-19 in the minor league tuneup. Bannister is quoted as saying he thinks being released will motivate him. I would have thought being sent to the minors mid-season would have motivated him. And for a while it did. Going to be interesting.

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« Reply #91 on: August 25, 2016, 09:50:54 am »
Yeah, being crappy all year should also have been sufficient motivation.  I doubt Gomez fall off had to do with motivation; more likely declining skills. 

On a note related to his new team and playing time for Gomez, I see Beltran hasn't done shit in Arlington. 

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On a note related to his new team and playing time for Gomez, I see Beltran hasn't done shit in Arlington. 

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« Reply #93 on: August 25, 2016, 10:15:42 am »
0 for his last 24. Went 4-for-5 against the A's on Aug. 16; hasn't had another hit since.

That's a shame.
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« Reply #94 on: August 25, 2016, 11:17:43 am »
That's a shame.

I hope Gomez follows the same path.

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« Reply #95 on: August 25, 2016, 05:36:06 pm »
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« Reply #96 on: August 25, 2016, 06:56:41 pm »
Gomez is batting eighth tonight and playing LF.
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« Reply #97 on: August 25, 2016, 07:39:01 pm »
Gomez is batting eighth tonight and playing LF.

3 run jack first at bat. 

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« Reply #98 on: August 25, 2016, 07:42:09 pm »
3 run jack first at bat.

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« Reply #99 on: August 25, 2016, 07:43:10 pm »
Gomez is batting eighth tonight and playing LF.

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« Reply #100 on: August 25, 2016, 07:49:14 pm »
How about announcers comment (Busby) just before the homer..." Carlos may feel more comfortable here where he blends into the lineup, instead of having to carry the team over in Houston". WTF
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« Reply #101 on: August 25, 2016, 07:54:27 pm »
I like this cocksucker as a Ranger about as much as I liked Derek Bell as a Met.
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« Reply #102 on: August 25, 2016, 08:43:43 pm »
How about announcers comment (Busby) just before the homer..." Carlos may feel more comfortable here where he blends into the lineup, instead of having to carry the team over in Houston". WTF
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« Reply #103 on: August 25, 2016, 08:51:34 pm »
How about announcers comment (Busby) just before the homer..." Carlos may feel more comfortable here where he blends into the lineup, instead of having to carry the team over in Houston". WTF

Gomez couldn't carry their jock strap.

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« Reply #104 on: August 26, 2016, 06:19:20 am »
I just saw the replay and two things jumped out at me:
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2. I fucking hate Odor.

He was 0-3 with a K in his last three at bats.  I think that's more of a realistic expectation for the Rangers.

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« Reply #105 on: August 26, 2016, 08:04:22 am »
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« Reply #106 on: August 26, 2016, 08:19:54 am »
So predictable.

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« Reply #107 on: August 26, 2016, 08:40:09 am »
If there is something to feel bitter about from that game, I would still opt for resenting the dipshit with a butt-cut who threw 8 scoreless vetoing a trade to the Astros, which started this whole mess to begin with.


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« Reply #108 on: August 26, 2016, 09:21:06 am »
Kipnes making fun of Odor

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« Reply #109 on: August 28, 2016, 04:39:04 pm »
0-14 with 7 strikeouts since that initial HR.

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« Reply #110 on: August 28, 2016, 08:14:36 pm »
0-14 with 7 strikeouts since that initial HR.

I watched a couple of those strikeouts yesterday. They were every bit as ugly as what he did in Houston. Flailing to the point of falling over. At one point I was positive he threw his back out on a swing.

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« Reply #111 on: August 30, 2016, 05:20:02 am »
0-18 w/10Ks after last night. I really feel for the guy, but am glad he's posting those numbers with the competition now instead of the good guys.
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« Reply #112 on: August 30, 2016, 06:03:15 am »
0-18 w/10Ks after last night. I really feel for the guy, but am glad he's posting those numbers with the competition now instead of the good guys.

He's probably on a short leash. I could see him getting DFA'd next week.
People who cannot recognize a palpable absurdity are very much in the way of civilization. Agnes Rupellier

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