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Cash Grab?
« on: August 14, 2013, 12:40:36 pm »
Earlier it was Wright for cash considerations, now it is Blackley. Hmmmm.

“@JuliaMoralesCSN:
 #Astros trade LHP Travis Blackley to the #Rangers for PTBNL and cash consideration.”


ETA:

“@Evan_P_Grant:
Appears to be some discrepancy on Astros transaction: There is no PTBNL going from Rangers to Houston in deal.”
« Last Edit: August 14, 2013, 12:44:30 pm by OregonStrosFan »
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Re: Cash Grab?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2013, 12:46:33 pm »
I don't get the cash trades.  I understand the need to get rid of some of the dead weight on the 40 man, but surely there's some high-A roster filler type that the Rays or Rangers could part with in these cases.
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Re: Cash Grab?
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2013, 12:55:39 pm »
Quote from: GreatBagwellsBeard on August 14, 2013, 12:46:33 pm
I don't get the cash trades.  I understand the need to get rid of some of the dead weight on the 40 man, but surely there's some high-A roster filler type that the Rays or Rangers could part with in these cases.

why would you want a roster filler?
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Re: Cash Grab?
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2013, 01:01:40 pm »
Wright may have been non-tendered and Blackley wasn't worth a 40-man spot.  They just cut Juri Perez and Zach Johnson.  So the minimum on a prospect needed just to make a roster spot on the minor league clubs has gone up.  Better to turn the players soon to be cut into cash (which can be added to a free agent's salary offer) versus just letting them go in the off season.
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Re: Cash Grab?
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2013, 03:30:28 pm »
Quote from: GreatBagwellsBeard on August 14, 2013, 12:46:33 pm
I don't get the cash trades. 

TeamCrane: "Ahum, Jeff... you're over budget!"
Luhnow: "Really? By how much"
TeamCrane: "One Wright and a half of Blackley... okay, make it a whole Blackley and call it even on your budget numbers"
Luhnow "*sigh*"
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Re: Cash Grab?
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2013, 09:39:13 am »
Bedard cleared waivers.  He's got to be worth something.  3.30 ERA over the last 10.  Could pitch out of the pen.  Certainly worth more than Blackley
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2013, 09:55:59 am »
I agree.  Bedard has been pitching well, and I assume he is not making too much.  However, no team wanted that.  Surprising. 
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2013, 10:30:32 am »
Quote from: pots on August 15, 2013, 09:39:13 am
Bedard cleared waivers.  He's got to be worth something.  3.30 ERA over the last 10.  Could pitch out of the pen.  Certainly worth more than Blackley
Bedard has backwards splits this year; lefties have hit him pretty well, albeit in just a 100ish ABs, compared to about 350 for righties. So maybe teams aren't interested in him for the 'pen for that reason. For his career, he's been just slightly better vs. lefties, .244/.338/.354 compared to .247/.318/.385.
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Re: Cash Grab?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2013, 12:12:29 pm »
Quote from: pots on August 15, 2013, 09:39:13 am
Bedard cleared waivers.  He's got to be worth something.  3.30 ERA over the last 10.  Could pitch out of the pen.  Certainly worth more than Blackley

Why not keep him around next year?
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2013, 08:25:26 pm »
Quote from: pots on August 15, 2013, 09:39:13 am
Bedard cleared waivers.  He's got to be worth something.  3.30 ERA over the last 10.  Could pitch out of the pen.  Certainly worth more than Blackley

As if right one cue...
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2013, 08:46:03 pm »
Quote from: jbm on August 15, 2013, 09:55:59 am
I agree.  Bedard has been pitching well, and I assume he is not making too much.  However, no team wanted that.  Surprising. 

I'm not sure what to make of that. I heard Felix Hernandez and Elvis Andrus cleared waivers, too. They can always pull them back, right?
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2013, 08:56:47 pm »
Quote from: juliogotay on August 15, 2013, 08:46:03 pm
I'm not sure what to make of that. I heard Felix Hernandez and Elvis Andrus cleared waivers, too. They can always pull them back, right?

Yes.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2013, 09:07:37 pm »
Hernandez could sure help the Astros bullpen.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2013, 09:12:29 pm »
Quote from: NeilT on August 15, 2013, 09:07:37 pm
Hernandez could sure help the Astros bullpen.

I bet Andrus could too.
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Re: Cash Grab?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 09:03:16 am »
Quote from: juliogotay on August 15, 2013, 08:46:03 pm
I'm not sure what to make of that. I heard Felix Hernandez and Elvis Andrus cleared waivers, too. They can always pull them back, right?


most everyone clears waivers every year. that is SOP after the deadline.
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2013, 09:59:12 am »
just what the astros need more cash not to spend on players
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2013, 10:53:12 am »
Quote from: JimR on August 16, 2013, 09:03:16 am

most everyone clears waivers every year. that is SOP after the deadline.

Yes. It seems like an odd exercise to me. Don't understand the point of waiving a guy you have no intention of letting go unless it is to gauge interest for an off-season deal or something.
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2013, 10:58:35 am »
Quote from: juliogotay on August 16, 2013, 10:53:12 am
Yes. It seems like an odd exercise to me. Don't understand the point of waiving a guy you have no intention of letting go unless it is to gauge interest for an off-season deal or something.

exactly
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2013, 10:58:56 am »
Quote from: juliogotay on August 16, 2013, 10:53:12 am
Yes. It seems like an odd exercise to me. Don't understand the point of waiving a guy you have no intention of letting go unless it is to gauge interest for an off-season deal or something.

It's done in case someone makes you an offer you can't refuse.
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2013, 12:14:05 pm »
Quote from: NeilT on August 15, 2013, 09:07:37 pm
Hernandez could sure help the Astros bullpen.
Happy could help that bullpen.
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2013, 12:45:21 pm »
Quote from: VirtualBob on August 16, 2013, 12:14:05 pm
Happy could help that bullpen.

You haven't seen me toss lately. I'd vote for Coach in my stead. My shoulder hurts just thinking about it.
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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2013, 01:04:07 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 16, 2013, 12:45:21 pm
You haven't seen me toss lately. I'd vote for Coach in my stead. My shoulder hurts just thinking about it.

I have not seen either of you, but I HAVE seen the guys masquerading as pitchers in the Astro bullpen, and I stand by my original statement.
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2013, 01:05:57 pm »
Quote from: Mr. Happy on August 16, 2013, 12:45:21 pm
You haven't seen me toss lately. I'd vote for Coach in my stead. My shoulder hurts just thinking about it.

I can still throw. it may be all I can still do.
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2013, 03:29:14 pm »
is he up?
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2013, 03:48:22 pm »
Quote from: Fredia on August 16, 2013, 03:29:14 pm
is he up?

That's a little personal.
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« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2013, 03:51:22 pm »
Quote from: JimR on August 16, 2013, 01:05:57 pm
I can still throw. it may be all I can still do.
Do they make shoulder Viagara?
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« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2013, 04:01:03 pm »
Quote from: Jose Cruz III on August 16, 2013, 03:51:22 pm
Do they make shoulder Viagara?

ask the man with the shoulder problem.
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« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2013, 04:34:14 pm »
Quote from: JimR on August 16, 2013, 04:01:03 pm
ask the man with the shoulder problem.
Just don't ask him how his shoulder developed the problem.
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« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2013, 01:13:14 pm »
If the Astros were to trade Bedard this year, the highest paid player on the roster would be....Phillip Humber 800K, followed by Altuve at 505K

When is the last time a MLB roster featured not a single player making over 800K, let alone 1 million?  1985?
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« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2013, 03:03:07 pm »
Quote from: Navin R Johnson on August 18, 2013, 01:13:14 pm
If the Astros were to trade Bedard this year, the highest paid player on the roster would be....Phillip Humber 800K, followed by Altuve at 505K

When is the last time a MLB roster featured not a single player making over 800K, let alone 1 million?  1985?
What if they threw in Bedard as an incentive to get someone to take Hummer?  That might actually be a good trade.
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Re: Cash Grab?
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2013, 10:50:27 am »
Quote from: VirtualBob on August 18, 2013, 03:03:07 pm
What if they threw in Bedard as an incentive to get someone to take Hummer?  That might actually be a good trade.

Depends on who's giving the hummer.
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« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2013, 12:03:55 pm »
Quote from: VirtualBob on August 18, 2013, 03:03:07 pm
What if they threw in Bedard as an incentive to get someone to take Hummer?  That might actually be a good trade.

Bedard has cleared waivers. Rangers may be in market for another starter.
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« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2013, 01:17:40 pm »
mystery question who are the astros playing tonight?
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