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Shaving...Part Deux
« on: January 13, 2012, 09:43:39 am »
A while back, we had a fun conversation about razors and shaving (one of my favorite threads, BTW), in which I said I'd had enough of the gimmicky four, six, twelve..howevermany bladed cartridges out there, for which you need a federal background check to purchase.  Since then I have been experimenting with numerous types of shaving apparati.  My face isn't nearly as handsome as the Dark Star's, so I figured what the hell.

I have settled on the traditional double-edged safety razor, the kind your grandfather probably used.  Not only does it give the second best shave possible (behind only a finely honed straight razor), the blades cost about $0.20 a piece rather than about $4.

Also, my new preferred shaving equipment is made in the old country, Limeyland.  My razor, my badger hair brush, and even the shaving cream, which is made by a company called Taylor of Old Bond Street, which just sounds like somewhere a millionaire would shop.

At any rate...sometimes the old ways are just better.
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 09:50:35 am »
What I don't really understand is why I can buy Gillette 3 blade disposable razors cheaper than a Gillette 3 bladed cartridge
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 09:56:59 am »
What I don't really understand is why I can buy Gillette 3 blade disposable razors cheaper than a Gillette 3 bladed cartridge

After learning this, I tried some disposable razors.  I switched permanently to disposable razors  and can buy a box of two dozen for the cost of 10 cartridges and they shave as well, if not better.

While I cannot contribute to the original post of a refined approach to grooming, I would like to pose a question to the group.  Do you prefer shaving before, after, or during one's shower? 

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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 09:58:19 am »
After learning this, I tried some disposable razors.  I switched permanently to disposable razors  and can buy a box of two dozen for the cost of 10 cartridges and they shave as well, if not better.

While I cannot contribute to the original post of a refined approach to grooming, I would like to pose a question to the group.  Do you prefer shaving before, after, or during one's shower? 



I've done the same - it really makes no sense.

I shave during the shower.

Another question for the group - how many shaves do you get per cartridge/razor? Do you do anything to prolong the life (besides just rinsing the razor and hanging up when you are done)?
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 10:03:37 am »
What I don't really understand is why I can buy Gillette 3 blade disposable razors cheaper than a Gillette 3 bladed cartridge
The disposable razors have to compete with every other disposable razor.  Once you buy the "keeper", Gillette has a monopoly on the blades.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 10:05:06 am »
What I don't really understand is why I can buy Gillette 3 blade disposable razors cheaper than a Gillette 3 bladed cartridge

This is the gimmick.  My research and my experience all conclude that it doesn't matter if your razor has 1 blade or 10 blades...only one of them does the actual cutting.  It's a scam I tell ya!
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 10:06:07 am »
The disposable razors have to compete with every other disposable razor.  Once you buy the "keeper", Gillette has a monopoly on the blades.

Must be more of a psychological effect, because I can buy the keeper for 8 bucks with 2 cartridges, so the little stick is almost free.
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 10:06:20 am »
The disposable razors have to compete with every other disposable razor.  Once you buy the "keeper", Gillette has a monopoly on the blades.

There is also the perception that buying the "keeper" and just having to buy blades is somehow easier and/or cheaper.  It's neither. 
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 10:06:51 am »
This is the gimmick.  My research and my experience all conclude that it doesn't matter if your razor has 1 blade or 10 blades...only one of them does the actual cutting.  It's a scam I tell ya!

You must not have seen the commercials - each blade successively cuts the same hair, leading to the closest shave yet.
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 10:07:57 am »
While I cannot contribute to the original post of a refined approach to grooming, I would like to pose a question to the group.  Do you prefer shaving before, after, or during one's shower? 

I shave immediately after the shower.  I like shaving in the shower, but as it's more of a refined ritual now, rather than a chore, it's much more practical to shave at the sink in front of the mirror.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 10:12:30 am »
What I don't really understand is why I can buy Gillette 3 blade disposable razors cheaper than a Gillette 3 bladed cartridge

THIIIIISSSSSSS!

In HEB this week: 3 x Mach 3 Plus (or whatever they call the upgrade) cartridges = $16; 3 x Mach 3 disposables = $8.

Also the cartridges come in a packet that requires a proper pair of scissors to open, which I don't have in my bathroom, so I get annoyed.  I'm going back to disposables.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 10:23:41 am »
Oh, and I'm with HH.  While I can be sold on the idea that two blades cut better than one, I cannot accept that three or even four can make any discernible difference.  It's just a gimmick to make you pay more for something you don't need (not a million miles away from the "2nd one free, just pay shipping and handling" infomercial scam).  Plus, the wide razor head that results from too many blades and various lube strips makes it very hard to shave the upper lip.  A simple two-blade razor head works great - the lube strips being a further unnecessary gimmick.

I shave after immediately my shower, as it's best to do this when your skin is warm.  I also warm the blade(s) by dropping the razor into the sink while it is filling with hot water.  I use Edge Gel, and have for a very long time thought about getting a foam warmer as the warm foam applied by my barber always feels nice.  The warmed foam/cream is supposed to to all the things the 2nd, 3rd or 4th blade is supposed to do...and more.

As for longevity of the blades, I typically get a week's worth out of one razor/cartridge.  I have a tough beard and, once it's had a week of use and then tackled Monday morning's two or three days of growth, it's shot.  Fresh blades every Tuesday.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2012, 10:25:50 am by Limey »
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 10:25:14 am »
The rules of distinction were thrown out with the baseball cap.  It does not lend itself to protocol.  It is found today on youth in homes, classrooms, even in fine restaurants.  Regardless of its other consequences, this is a breach against civility.  A civilized man should avoid this mania.

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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 10:32:05 am »
Also, my new preferred shaving equipment is made in the old country, Limeyland.  My razor, my badger hair brush, and even the shaving cream, which is made by a company called Taylor of Old Bond Street, which just sounds like somewhere a millionaire would shop.

At any rate...sometimes the old ways are just better.

Old Bond Street is good, but a better collection is on Jermyn Street which is the Gentleman's equivalent of Rodeo Drive.  End to end, shirts, ties, shoes and grooming establishments, for the cultured man about town.
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« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 10:33:10 am »
I usually only shave twice a week (Monday and Wednesday), but still hard pressed to even get 2 weeks worth out of one.
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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2012, 10:40:22 am »
I usually only shave twice a week (Monday and Wednesday), but still hard pressed to even get 2 weeks worth out of one.

Most are good for about 4 or 5 shaves...that's a week for us non-Spartans.  There are those who claim they can go forever on one disposable blade, but after a few, it's probably like shaving with spatula.
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« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2012, 10:55:46 am »
I usually only shave twice a week (Monday and Wednesday), but still hard pressed to even get 2 weeks worth out of one.

That's about the same for me.
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« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2012, 10:59:32 am »
I shave before the shower, and I warm the razor (and my face) while I fill the sink. I have a wimpy beard and only shave on MWF, so I can get three weeks or so out of a cartridge. But I may try the disposables suggestion the next time I have to refill, since my last 4-pack of (3-blade) cartridges was $18. I just feel a bit guilty about discarding even more plastic than I already do.
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« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2012, 11:05:26 am »
But I may try the disposables suggestion the next time I have to refill, since my last 4-pack of (3-blade) cartridges was $18. I just feel a bit guilty about discarding even more plastic than I already do.

I just bought a 100-pack of top of the line DE blades for $18.  They are 100% recyclable.
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« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2012, 11:44:31 am »
For those who use the traditional double-edged safety razor... Is there any difference at all between brands/models when it comes to the razor and/or blades?
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« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2012, 11:49:29 am »
For those who use the traditional double-edged safety razor... Is there any difference at all between brands/models when it comes to the razor and/or blades?

A couple of things I've found I like in the razor...longer handle is better, heavier is better (the weight of the razor does the work).  The cool butterfly opening razors are neat, but there is more maintenance involved and more to break.  I like the simple three-piece design.  I use a Edwin Jagger razor (DE89, I believe), but other good manufacturers are out there (Muehle, Merkur, etc).  A really good DE razor is less than $100 bucks.  Not much for many many years of good shaves.

As for the blades, I've been using a good quality, high end blade (Astra platinum coated).  They are super sharp, and they seem to hold up well.  I don't know if the "cheaper" blades are any worse, but at less than $0.20 a piece, even the high dollar ones are not much money.
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« Reply #21 on: January 13, 2012, 01:58:03 pm »
I thought this was going to be about manscaping.  I read an article about that in a waiting room yesterday and started to get light headed thinking about having to shave my scrotum.
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2012, 01:59:45 pm »
I thought this was going to be about manscaping.  I read an article about that in a waiting room yesterday and started to get light headed thinking about having to shave my scrotum.

You could always take the fear to the next level and have someone else apply a razor to your scrotum.
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« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2012, 02:04:26 pm »
You could always take the fear to the next level and have someone else apply a razor to your scrotum.

Ain't no man taking that route with me.
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« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2012, 02:05:02 pm »
Ain't no man taking that route with me.

so, you let a woman do it?
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« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2012, 02:23:08 pm »
so, you let a woman do it?

A gentleman never tells.
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« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2012, 02:59:39 pm »
I thought this was going to be about manscaping.  I read an article about that in a waiting room yesterday and started to get light headed thinking about having to shave my scrotum.

For that area it's the sack and crack wax I believe.

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« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2012, 03:06:29 pm »
For that area it's the sack and crack wax I believe.

I believe the full monty is called the "back, sack 'n' crack".
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« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2012, 03:21:00 pm »
I believe the full monty is called the "back, sack 'n' crack".

This is SO not where I wanted this discussion to go.
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« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2012, 03:24:36 pm »
This is SO not where I wanted this discussion to go.

Male grooming is no longer reserved for the area above the neck.
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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2012, 03:34:18 pm »
I believe the full monty is called the "back, sack 'n' crack".

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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2012, 08:30:09 pm »
Male grooming is no longer reserved for the area above the neck.

Why the hell would you (or anyone you authorize) shave your pubes?  That's just fucked up.

I'll tell you what else - I understand if women trim down there to look good in swimwear, but it bothers me a lot there are guys who very much prefer/demand that their woman keep the whole area hair-free.  That's just supressed pedophilia.  Gross.

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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2012, 08:41:20 pm »
I have to shave every workday, but I have a pretty good system.  I started the way my old man shaves, which is disposable, against the grain, soap instead of cream or gel, in the shower.  My father-in-law got me a fancy electric one for Christmas a few years ago and I've begrudgingly been using it because it's cheaper.  It doesn't shave as close though, so I start on Monday with a disposable razor, then switch to electric for the rest of the week.  That seems to find a happy medium.


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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2012, 11:59:14 pm »
I have to shave every workday, but I have a pretty good system.  I started the way my old man shaves, which is disposable, against the grain, soap instead of cream or gel, in the shower.  My father-in-law got me a fancy electric one for Christmas a few years ago and I've begrudgingly been using it because it's cheaper.  It doesn't shave as close though, so I start on Monday with a disposable razor, then switch to electric for the rest of the week.  That seems to find a happy medium.


We're still talking about manscaping, right?

You have to shave your pubes for work?  Man, the things you guys must be willing to do to make partner...
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« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2012, 02:15:18 am »
Surgery is the only thing that comes to mind as a valid reason for shaving that part of your world, unless you're a burly Hungarian Olympic swimmer or something. 

A shaving thread, huh?  I saw a shower mention or two within all this.  The third critical "S" has somehow escpaed the discussion--until now, obviously.
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« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2012, 11:37:40 am »
This thread inspired me to jump to a double-edged safety razor; now I'm trying to figure out the best cream/gel/soap/?? to use. At least for now, I'm not interested in going all the way to the bowl/mixing/brush -- I want to try and keep it simpler than that. I'm using old-school Barbosol in a can right now, and have always used a can of some kind. I figure there has to be something inbetween those two extremes, but don't really know where to start.

Any suggestions?
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« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2012, 12:21:34 pm »
This thread inspired me to jump to a double-edged safety razor; now I'm trying to figure out the best cream/gel/soap/?? to use. At least for now, I'm not interested in going all the way to the bowl/mixing/brush -- I want to try and keep it simpler than that. I'm using old-school Barbosol in a can right now, and have always used a can of some kind. I figure there has to be something inbetween those two extremes, but don't really know where to start.

Any suggestions?

Out of curiosity, why have you ruled out the brush?  Because you don't have to fool with the bowl. A suprisingly small amount of good quality shave cream will quickly lather up nicely on your beard. You just have to rinse out the brush, which is all of about 15 seconds.
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« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2012, 06:58:35 pm »
Out of curiosity, why have you ruled out the brush?  Because you don't have to fool with the bowl. A suprisingly small amount of good quality shave cream will quickly lather up nicely on your beard. You just have to rinse out the brush, which is all of about 15 seconds.

Just seems like extra work and extra stuff to keep around in our pretty small bathroom. I suppose I've been spoiled by the can -- pick it up, spray, apply, done. One thing to keep, one thing to do.

So you're saying with a shave cream you just lather it up in your hands, or what? I'm somewhat ignorant of how it works.
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« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2012, 07:39:30 pm »
Applying the cream out of a can using a brush helps spread the cream more evenly and helps prepare the whiskers better. Plus, I think it feels good.

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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2012, 08:52:42 am »
Applying the cream out of a can using a brush helps spread the cream more evenly and helps prepare the whiskers better. Plus, I think it feels good.

You're talking about your pubes, right?
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Re: Shaving...Part Deux
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2012, 09:25:46 am »
Made the switch to a safety razor and shave brush 2 weeks ago and it is fantastic.  It does take longer to shave, but I find the experience enjoyable and worthwhile.  They key is beard reduction, which means multiple passes (and applications of cream).  Start with the grain, then across the grain and finally against the grain.  The shave result is good and there is substantially less irritation on my neck.  I really like building the lather from a soap cake and am looking forward to finding a quality brush (I started cheap to educate myself before investing in quality equipment).

I did find a nice time saving alternative, Jack Black Beard Lube.  A clear lubricating gel that provides a very nice shave when you don't have time to build and re-apply lather.  I applied it once and then made my 3 passes for a quality result.

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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2012, 09:59:24 am »
Just seems like extra work and extra stuff to keep around in our pretty small bathroom. I suppose I've been spoiled by the can -- pick it up, spray, apply, done. One thing to keep, one thing to do.

So you're saying with a shave cream you just lather it up in your hands, or what? I'm somewhat ignorant of how it works.

Lather it up on your face.  Just pick up a dollop on the brush and start brushing on your whiskers.  Takes about 20 seconds.  You can do it longer if you like the massaging effect.

Perhaps I should give a demonstration on Opening Day.
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2012, 10:13:01 am »
Perhaps I should give a demonstration on Opening Day.

I'm bringing the video camera.
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Re: Shaving...Part Deux
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2012, 10:14:35 am »
Lather it up on your face.  Just pick up a dollop on the brush and start brushing on your whiskers.  Takes about 20 seconds.  You can do it longer if you like the massaging effect.

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« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2012, 10:21:37 am »
What is with you and men's pubes?
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« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2012, 10:22:20 am »

Any excuse to drop your pants...

I'm not sure why you have this fascination with other men's ball sacks, but I find it disturbing.
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« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2012, 10:25:53 am »
man, this discussion took a nasty turn.
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« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2012, 10:42:33 am »
man, this discussion took a nasty turn.

It's Limey!  Just when I think we're back on track...boom...we're back to pubic hair. 
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« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2012, 10:43:38 am »
It's Limey!  Just when I think we're back on track...boom...we're back to pubic hair. 

kinda like i always go back to being young?
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« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2012, 01:13:10 pm »
kinda like i always go back to being young?
Me too.  Does it seem like the trip keeps getting longer though?
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« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2012, 01:43:15 pm »
FWIW, I am on the last cartridge of my last batch of cartridges I'll ever buy.  Now the decision has to be made:  old school or disposable?
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« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2012, 01:49:39 pm »
FWIW, I am on the last cartridge of my last batch of cartridges I'll ever buy.  Now the decision has to be made:  old school or disposable?

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« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2012, 01:53:36 pm »
FWIW, I am on the last cartridge of my last batch of cartridges I'll ever buy.  Now the decision has to be made:  old school or disposable?

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« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2012, 02:57:06 pm »
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« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2012, 03:02:15 pm »
Lather it up on your face.  Just pick up a dollop on the brush and start brushing on your whiskers.  Takes about 20 seconds.  You can do it longer if you like the massaging effect.

Alright, I'm open to that... Suggestions (from anyone) on brands/types of cream/soap/gel/etc. and brush? Figuring I could stand to improve on the $1.89 Barbasol (or maybe not?), but not looking to get too expensive.
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« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2012, 03:38:29 pm »
just as an FYI, I have seen a HUGE difference in razor burn by using a 2 in 1 shampoo rather than shaving gel (ran out of gel one day and substituted my shampoo).  It does not gum up the razor as bad and provides much better lubrication.  When I run through the rest of my current razors I will be switching over to the saftey razor...so I can be like the cool kids around here

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« Reply #56 on: February 21, 2012, 04:25:46 pm »
just as an FYI, I have seen a HUGE difference in razor burn by using a 2 in 1 shampoo rather than shaving gel (ran out of gel one day and substituted my shampoo).  It does not gum up the razor as bad and provides much better lubrication.  When I run through the rest of my current razors I will be switching over to the saftey razor...so I can be like the cool kids around here

I have a lot of luck using my wife's moisturizing body wash, but since I only need to shave once a week or so, I am probably not the best reference.
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« Reply #57 on: February 21, 2012, 05:01:22 pm »
FWIW, I am on the last cartridge of my last batch of cartridges I'll ever buy.  Now the decision has to be made:  old school or disposable?


Dude...old school.  All of my shaving supplies are made in Limeyland. 
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« Reply #58 on: February 21, 2012, 05:28:46 pm »
Alright, I'm open to that... Suggestions (from anyone) on brands/types of cream/soap/gel/etc. and brush? Figuring I could stand to improve on the $1.89 Barbasol (or maybe not?), but not looking to get too expensive.

Get a good quality badger hair brush.  It'll be an investment, at around $40, but it's a one time thing.  As for cream, I use Taylor of Old Bond Street Jermyn Street, as it's for sensitive skin, but there are different flavors of different brands.  They all work well.  I've bought my shaving gear at a place called The British Isles in Rice Village, and the cream is around $15, I think.  I've been using it for a month or so, and it's hardly made a dent in it, so I figure I should get at least a year, probably more, for my $15.  I use Sandalwood aftershave by Crabtree & Evelyn.  It's a lotion, not a burn your face alcohol based liquid, and I find it's much better for my skin. 

All in all, I was spending about $175/year or so on cartridges, foam, etc, using the grocery store stuff.  The razor, brush, stand, and a year's worth of razors/cream/aftershave were about $200, and going forward, that will drop to about $30/year.

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« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2012, 07:07:36 am »
It's hard to describe what a nice shave does for your attitude at 5:00 in the morning, but it's manly feeling, and that's good.

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« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2012, 07:15:51 am »
Bought this box at Costco last week for something like $20.  Won't be worrying about razors for at least a year.

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« Reply #61 on: February 22, 2012, 07:59:47 am »
It's hard to describe what a nice shave does for your attitude at 5:00 in the morning, but it's manly feeling, and that's good.

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« Reply #62 on: February 23, 2012, 09:16:07 am »
My friend got me all the 'classic shaving' stuff like the 2-bladed safety razor, badger brush, shaving soap, etc.   It's fun, but I cannot do it when I'm drowsy, I go all Sweeney Todd on myself.  And I have light skin and a black beard, so I shave pretty much every day.  But I only 'classic shave' on the weekends.  Morning people, YMMV.
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« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2012, 09:03:51 am »
Funny... I was just noticing about 3-4 days ago that Older Son will have to start shaving any minute now. If he weren't so pale, freckled, and redheaded, he'd have already had to by now, but with the nearly colorless fuzz atop the upper lip, he's been able to get away with not doing it yet. But not for much longer. He's in the throes of another growth spurt as we speak.

The question is... do I let his dad teach him how to shave with the disposables and Barbasol, or do I respect the boy's wishes and purchase an electric shaver? I've heard tell that teaching your son to shave is one of those Male Bonding Moments, but they already have plenty of those at the gun range...

Perhaps I'll call the local blood bank to see how many pints of Older Son's type they have on hand, then make my decision.
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« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2012, 09:04:45 am »
I always had a lot more trouble with electric razors demolishing my skin than I ever had problems with even the crappiest disposable - but it may just be because I have a fat neck.
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« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2012, 09:07:10 am »
It's fun, but I cannot do it when I'm drowsy, I go all Sweeney Todd on myself. 

The shower doesn't perk you up at all?
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« Reply #66 on: March 01, 2012, 09:07:29 am »
I always had a lot more trouble with electric razors demolishing my skin than I ever had problems with even the crappiest disposable - but it may just be because I have a fat neck.

Every electric that I ever tried (and I tried a couple that were supposed to be good) felt like it was trying to pull the whiskers out of my face. What a miserable experience.
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« Reply #67 on: March 01, 2012, 09:11:38 am »
It's simple, people:  blade for the face; electric for the balls.
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« Reply #68 on: March 01, 2012, 09:12:00 am »
The question is... do I let his dad teach him how to shave with the disposables and Barbasol, or do I respect the boy's wishes and purchase an electric shaver? I've heard tell that teaching your son to shave is one of those Male Bonding Moments, but they already have plenty of those at the gun range...

Let Dad teach him to shave like a man.  It's not so much a bonding moment(Father/Son bonding moments are beer and cigars), it's about how to look and act like an adult.  Number One Son will appreciate the tutelage.
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« Reply #69 on: March 01, 2012, 09:12:27 am »
It's simple, people:  blade for the face; electric for the balls.

I am seriously worried about you.
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« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2012, 09:13:21 am »
I always had a lot more trouble with electric razors demolishing my skin than I ever had problems with even the crappiest disposable - but it may just be because I have a fat neck.

Fat guys get a better shave. 
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« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2012, 09:19:05 am »
Let Dad teach him to shave like a man.  It's not so much a bonding moment(Father/Son bonding moments are beer and cigars), it's about how to look and act like an adult.  Number One Son will appreciate the tutelage.

I am seriously worried about you.

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« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2012, 09:20:15 am »
electric for the balls.

Seems like that'd feel like being on the receiving end of a cheese grater.
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« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2012, 09:20:54 am »
Let Dad teach him to shave like a man.  It's not so much a bonding moment(Father/Son bonding moments are beer and cigars), it's about how to look and act like an adult.  Number One Son will appreciate the tutelage.

Then, teach him to tie a bow tie.  Not for everyday wear, but for those black tie occasions where real men eschew the prefab versions and go old school.
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« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2012, 09:21:36 am »
Then, teach him to tie a bow tie.  Not for everyday wear, but for those black tie occasions where real men eschew the prefab versions and go old school.

Like his choir concerts. Gotcha.
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« Reply #75 on: March 01, 2012, 09:22:49 am »
Fat guys get a better shave. 

I don't know how. I suspect a lot of fat guys can't even see their balls.
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« Reply #76 on: March 01, 2012, 09:24:20 am »
I don't know how. I suspect a lot of fat guys can't even see their balls.

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« Reply #77 on: March 01, 2012, 09:29:23 am »
Like his choir concerts. Gotcha.

How about prom night?  Others may want to go full-on trendy, which will be unfashionably hilarious about 6 months later, but the dude in a tux will look classy, sexy and timeless.  As long as the tux is not tan and taupe, of course.
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« Reply #78 on: March 01, 2012, 09:31:37 am »
Pale, freckled, and formerly red (now white) bearded, electric razors shredded my skin. They really are brutal.  Get him a good gel shave cream and some disposable razors and he'll figure it out.

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« Reply #79 on: March 01, 2012, 09:39:14 am »
How about prom night? 

Please do not age my child before I am ready. Next fall, he will start high school and his younger brother will start junior high. I pray that prom is at least 3 years away for my household. He can be content with shaving his pale upper lip fuzz until then.
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« Reply #80 on: March 01, 2012, 09:39:51 am »
Fat guys get a better shave. 

This has to be true - I can count on one hand the number of times I've cut myself shaving, no matter how crappy of a razor I was using.
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« Reply #81 on: March 01, 2012, 09:42:32 am »
Every electric that I ever tried (and I tried a couple that were supposed to be good) felt like it was trying to pull the whiskers out of my face. What a miserable experience.

Agreed.  It's just an awful sensation.
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« Reply #82 on: March 01, 2012, 10:31:45 am »
Then, teach him to tie a bow tie.  Not for everyday wear, but for those black tie occasions where real men eschew the prefab versions and go old school.

Ouch, sir.
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« Reply #83 on: March 01, 2012, 10:34:52 am »
Ouch, sir.

You weren't wearing a bow tie.
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« Reply #84 on: March 01, 2012, 10:37:44 am »
Then, teach him to tie a bow tie.  Not for everyday wear, but for those black tie occasions where real men eschew the prefab versions and go old school.

I hate putting studs in a tuxedo shirt.  I hate cufflinks.  I could live the rest of my life happily and never see another tuxedo.  Plus the damn things shrink in your closet.
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« Reply #85 on: March 01, 2012, 10:39:09 am »
You weren't wearing a bow tie.

Not from lack of trying, dammit.
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« Reply #86 on: March 01, 2012, 10:40:59 am »
I hate putting studs in a tuxedo shirt.  I hate cufflinks.  I could live the rest of my life happily and never see another tuxedo.  Plus the damn things shrink in your closet.

And this is coming from a guy who LOVES bowties.
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« Reply #87 on: March 01, 2012, 10:50:49 am »
I hate putting studs in a tuxedo shirt.  I hate cufflinks.  I could live the rest of my life happily and never see another tuxedo.  Plus the damn things shrink in your closet.

I managed to find a set of shirt studs that don't have the sprung-loaded hypodermic needle mechanism.  Joy!
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« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2012, 11:08:56 am »
I managed to find a set of shirt studs that don't have the sprung-loaded hypodermic needle mechanism.  Joy!

I was at a black tie event a couple of weeks ago and there was one stud that would veritably leap from shirt at any given moment without even the slightest provocation. 
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« Reply #89 on: March 01, 2012, 11:17:11 am »
I was at a black tie event a couple of weeks ago and there was one stud that would veritably leap from shirt at any given moment without even the slightest provocation. 

Have you considered having a breast reduction?
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« Reply #90 on: March 01, 2012, 11:20:55 am »
Have you considered having a breast reduction?

But then nobody would notice me.
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« Reply #91 on: March 01, 2012, 08:03:06 pm »
But then nobody would notice me.

Nice hooters, Bench. I'm jealous.
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« Reply #92 on: March 06, 2012, 08:44:45 am »
Have you considered having a breast reduction?

i thought he was talking about a tablemate.
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« Reply #93 on: March 06, 2012, 09:54:55 am »
I hate putting studs in a tuxedo shirt.  I hate cufflinks.  I could live the rest of my life happily and never see another tuxedo.  Plus the damn things shrink in your closet.
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« Reply #94 on: March 06, 2012, 10:58:14 am »
Agreed.  I'm also getting tired of wearing spats and sock garters.

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« Reply #95 on: March 06, 2012, 11:10:27 am »
Whalebone Corsets called and left a message for you. It reads, "WFW."

Please tell Corsets that their absence is noted and we sorely await their comeback.
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« Reply #96 on: March 06, 2012, 02:47:52 pm »
Please tell Corsets that their absence is noted and we sorely await their comeback.

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« Reply #97 on: March 06, 2012, 03:52:25 pm »
I think I'm going to go in this direction: http://www.dollarshaveclub.com/
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« Reply #98 on: March 06, 2012, 04:52:19 pm »
I think I'm going to go in this direction: http://www.dollarshaveclub.com/

I think I'm headed in this direction.
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« Reply #99 on: March 06, 2012, 04:56:17 pm »
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« Reply #100 on: March 06, 2012, 08:12:34 pm »
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« Reply #101 on: March 06, 2012, 09:57:12 pm »
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« Reply #102 on: March 07, 2012, 10:59:45 am »
I think I'm headed in this direction.

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« Reply #103 on: March 07, 2012, 11:08:53 am »
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« Reply #104 on: March 07, 2012, 11:13:59 am »
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« Reply #105 on: March 07, 2012, 11:18:05 am »
http://www.dollarshaveclub.com/

That's still way more expensive than shaving with a top of the line DE razor.
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« Reply #106 on: March 08, 2012, 11:47:39 am »
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« Reply #107 on: March 09, 2012, 03:03:14 pm »
OK, so I just got back from the barber shop...haircut, trim the eyebrows, straight razor on the neck...the whole works.  I came home and had a nice long, hot towel, brushed foam, new blade shave.  I feel like a million bucks.
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« Reply #108 on: March 09, 2012, 03:38:14 pm »
OK, so I just got back from the barber shop...haircut, trim the eyebrows, straight razor on the neck...the whole works.  I came home and had a nice long, hot towel, brushed foam, new blade shave.  I feel like a million bucks.

Back, crack 'n' sack?
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« Reply #109 on: March 09, 2012, 04:11:27 pm »
Back, crack 'n' sack?

When I saw you responded, I KNEW I shouldn't have looked. 
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« Reply #110 on: January 04, 2013, 09:14:14 am »
OK, so I got a nice shaving kit, minus the razor, from my brother-in-law for Christmas. I immediately went online and ordered the Edwin Jagger DE98. It came in last night. HH, thank you for the recommendation. Very nice shave.

Sorry, I know the topic was old, but it needed to be reborn.
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« Reply #111 on: January 04, 2013, 09:17:48 am »
Sorry, I know the topic was old, but it needed to be reborn.

Except I don't think I needed to be reminded of "back, crack 'n' sack" again.
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« Reply #112 on: January 04, 2013, 09:57:01 am »
Sorry, I know the topic was old, but it needed to be reborn.

Thanks for bumping, actually. I've been shaving with a DE for over a year now and never knew this thread had existed. Although I must say when I went through it I was hoping for more blade recommendations and less discussion of cracks and sacks. I should've known better.

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« Reply #113 on: January 04, 2013, 10:28:04 am »
I got a Merkur Futur for Christmas and have been using it since. I have a cheap soap and haven't been able to get the best lather from it, so I'm looking forward to that. On the plus side, the futur is adjustable so I can decide how close I want each pass.
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« Reply #114 on: January 04, 2013, 10:34:07 am »
I got a Merkur Futur for Christmas and have been using it since.

I would have thought a Merkur Futur would be some sort of German merkin trimmer.
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« Reply #115 on: January 04, 2013, 11:45:08 am »
I got a Merkur Futur for Christmas and have been using it since. I have a cheap soap and haven't been able to get the best lather from it, so I'm looking forward to that. On the plus side, the futur is adjustable so I can decide how close I want each pass.

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« Reply #116 on: January 04, 2013, 11:48:59 am »
I thought Ford discontinued the Merkur after the XR4TI

The Futur is probably a better car.
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« Reply #117 on: January 04, 2013, 01:19:47 pm »
Except I don't think I needed to be reminded of "back, crack 'n' sack" again.

Hey, don't blame me.  ETA's the one talking about how nice his ballsack is now.
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« Reply #118 on: January 04, 2013, 02:01:18 pm »
Gents, want to have that fresh from the barber feeling every morning?  Try some of this: 

www.clubmanonline.com/clubman-after-shave-lotion-6-oz.html
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« Reply #119 on: February 15, 2013, 02:51:00 pm »
I revisited this thread and went with all the HH suggestions. Enjoying it so far. Do you guys travel with all this stuff?

I generally brought a cheap razor on my business trips but most of my trips are to Kansas. The combination of the dryness and shitty razors give my skin hell. Seems more important that I shave properly there, but packing up the additional gear isn't appealing. Curious if any of you developed a better system.

I was going to mention TSA restrictions, but I don't want to incite a rant about what should be carried on (small suitcase would be gate-checked).


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« Reply #120 on: February 15, 2013, 03:10:10 pm »
I revisited this thread and went with all the HH suggestions. Enjoying it so far. Do you guys travel with all this stuff?

I generally brought a cheap razor on my business trips but most of my trips are to Kansas. The combination of the dryness and shitty razors give my skin hell. Seems more important that I shave properly there, but packing up the additional gear isn't appealing. Curious if any of you developed a better system.

I was going to mention TSA restrictions, but I don't want to incite a rant about what should be carried on (small suitcase would be gate-checked).

If most of my business trips were to Kansas, I'd just buy a straight razor and slit my throat.

I don't travel with my good shaving gear, precisely because of the TSA hassle.  In theory, it would be easy enough to take your DE razor with you, minus the blades, and just pick up a pack at your destination.  Except that it's damn near impossible to find DE blades at the local drug store or Walmart anymore. 

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« Reply #121 on: February 15, 2013, 03:20:23 pm »
If most of my business trips were to Kansas, I'd just buy a straight razor and slit my throat.

I don't travel with my good shaving gear, precisely because of the TSA hassle.  In theory, it would be easy enough to take your DE razor with you, minus the blades, and just pick up a pack at your destination.  Except that it's damn near impossible to find DE blades at the local drug store or Walmart anymore. 



You can always FedEx some to your hotel in advance of your trip.  Sounds extravagant, but it's cheaper than checking a bag*.


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« Reply #122 on: February 15, 2013, 06:28:12 pm »
If you travel for work much and either check bags or have to pay for them to be checked, then you are doing it wrong.   
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« Reply #123 on: February 15, 2013, 07:36:56 pm »
If you travel for work much and either check bags or have to pay for them to be checked, then you are doing it wrong.   

I assume you never have the need to travel with tools.

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« Reply #124 on: February 15, 2013, 09:21:38 pm »
I assume you never have the need to travel with tools.

Or with clothes.
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« Reply #125 on: February 15, 2013, 11:01:45 pm »
Don't fly with tools, unless you consider a laptop & occasionally a projector tools, but I have never paid to check a bag.  And if you are a regular flyer and pay to check bags you are doing it wrong.
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« Reply #126 on: February 16, 2013, 06:39:31 am »
And if you are a regular flyer and pay to check bags you are doing it wrong.

My intention is to spend more money than necessary. If paying to check bags is wrong, I don't want to be right.
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« Reply #127 on: February 16, 2013, 08:44:42 am »
And if you are a regular flyer and pay to check bags you are doing it wrong.

This is the rub.  I used to be Platinum Elite on Continental (>75k miles/year), but now I fly rarely and even less on business.  Do not qualify for free bags by usage, and refuse to get airline credit cards (and pay a fee for them) to get "free" bags.

Dropping from elite to untermensch was a hard fall, but I'm way over it now.  It gives me the ability to say "fuck United" and use BA to get to London (infinitely better service), and SWA to get around the States (bags fly free).  To be fair, United didn't shit the bed on my last flight with them...which is a first.
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« Reply #128 on: February 16, 2013, 09:15:06 am »
This is the rub.  I used to be Platinum Elite on Continental (>75k miles/year), but now I fly rarely and even less on business.  Do not qualify for free bags by usage, and refuse to get airline credit cards (and pay a fee for them) to get "free" bags.

Dropping from elite to untermensch was a hard fall, but I'm way over it now.  It gives me the ability to say "fuck United" and use BA to get to London (infinitely better service), and SWA to get around the States (bags fly free).  To be fair, United didn't shit the bed on my last flight with them...which is a first.

Ding ding. Even lowly Silver Elites get bags checked for free.  And if you don't have status but your coworker does, then they can check them.  And like you said there is the CC option too, which if you had to check bags more than 2 times, would pay for itself.

I've been Gold/Platinum for about a decade now, not sure how I would handle flying without it.

 
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« Reply #129 on: February 16, 2013, 10:37:39 am »
To be fair, United didn't shit the bed on my last flight with them...which is a first.

They have improved. I haven't had an issue on my last 5-6 flights. One was the Dreamliner which managed not to catch fire on either leg.

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« Reply #130 on: February 16, 2013, 11:07:33 am »
Don't fly with tools

I'm sure the boss will understand your objection and forgive me doing my job while I'm there.

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Again, unless you need to take a certain amount of clothing with you. Business travel is not a one size fits all.
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« Reply #131 on: February 17, 2013, 08:57:18 am »
I'm sure the boss will understand your objection and forgive me doing my job while I'm there.


I'm sure the boss would be really annoyed if Navin insisted on taking tools for no good reason on every business trip. Especially if he was tagging along.
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« Reply #132 on: February 17, 2013, 09:55:01 am »
I did a video shoot several years ago in DC. First time I'd been there, great trip, lots of stories gained, but it was just me and the guy who was doing all the shooting for the better part of a week, mostly in classrooms at Howard University. One camera, some interviews, some dental school stuff, nothing too tough. At the time, I didn't realize how ADHD my friend was, but he could get caught in these odd loops of CYA planning.

Back then, you could carry on a fair amount of stuff and that helped out a lot, but I think my friend bought a seat for his camera so he could carry it with him. I could definitely understand that. What I didn't understand was his reluctance to use some of the local stuff, which would have cost him less than the freight because he insisted on checking 17 flight cases for the trip. Some of that stuff was just boxes of cables or boxes of camera batteries or boxes of tape. I'm sure he billed it back to the producer, but the whole process of dealing with the baggage was easily the worst part of the trip.



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« Reply #133 on: February 17, 2013, 06:52:20 pm »
I'm sure the boss would be really annoyed if Navin insisted on taking tools for no good reason on every business trip. Especially if he was tagging along.

I'm sure Navin can get his job done with no tools at all.  That doesn't mean that everyone can.
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« Reply #134 on: February 17, 2013, 06:54:43 pm »
I did a video shoot several years ago in DC. First time I'd been there, great trip, lots of stories gained, but it was just me and the guy who was doing all the shooting for the better part of a week, mostly in classrooms at Howard University. One camera, some interviews, some dental school stuff, nothing too tough. At the time, I didn't realize how ADHD my friend was, but he could get caught in these odd loops of CYA planning.

Back then, you could carry on a fair amount of stuff and that helped out a lot, but I think my friend bought a seat for his camera so he could carry it with him. I could definitely understand that. What I didn't understand was his reluctance to use some of the local stuff, which would have cost him less than the freight because he insisted on checking 17 flight cases for the trip. Some of that stuff was just boxes of cables or boxes of camera batteries or boxes of tape. I'm sure he billed it back to the producer, but the whole process of dealing with the baggage was easily the worst part of the trip.

If you think dealing with your own baggage is annoying, try dealing with someone else's because they refuse to check it.
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« Reply #135 on: February 02, 2014, 09:19:04 am »
Received all study materials and props.  Proceeded with caution.  Now fully on board.  I don't think I would have tried this without reading here first.  Thanks for all the recommendations as it doesn't feel like giving money away anymore.

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« Reply #136 on: April 01, 2019, 03:10:08 pm »
A while back, we had a fun conversation about razors and shaving (one of my favorite threads, BTW), in which I said I'd had enough of the gimmicky four, six, twelve..howevermany bladed cartridges out there, for which you need a federal background check to purchase.  Since then I have been experimenting with numerous types of shaving apparati.  My face isn't nearly as handsome as the Dark Star's, so I figured what the hell.

I have settled on the traditional double-edged safety razor, the kind your grandfather probably used.  Not only does it give the second best shave possible (behind only a finely honed straight razor), the blades cost about $0.20 a piece rather than about $4.

Also, my new preferred shaving equipment is made in the old country, Limeyland.  My razor, my badger hair brush, and even the shaving cream, which is made by a company called Taylor of Old Bond Street, which just sounds like somewhere a millionaire would shop.

At any rate...sometimes the old ways are just better.


It is a day for revisiting old threads, it seems...

Prior to keeping my head clean shaved - which I now do - I was worried about ingrown hairs from which I suffer(ed) greatly using cartridge razors.  That problem has been solved by this amazing stuff called Rockwell's Aftershave Balm.  It seems a little pricey at $15 for a 4oz bottle, but one of those lasts me 4 months and I'm using it on my whole head 2-3 times a week as well as my face.  Highly recommended, if you can find it...*

Supply issues are what brought me to the Rockwell website, and the discovery of their double-edge OG man-razor.  This seems like a killer deal - a handle for $15 including 5 blades.  $15 gets you another 100 blades (they say two years' worth).  For $4 you can get a blade bin that you can empty (if you have a way of safely disposing of the loose blades) or you can simply toss the whole thing in the recycling when its full for safe, ethical disposal.  Cheaper, environmentally-friendly and off-the-charts man-cred.  I think I'll give it a try, even if it is from Canada.

* Mrs Limey found the balm at the Manready Mercantile on 19th.  They carry a selection of Rockwell stuff but, as if to provide proof of its quality, the balm is almost always sold out.  I'm guessing they have the razor sets but there's always the consolation of a free bourbon if they're out.
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Re: Shaving...Part Deux
« Reply #137 on: April 01, 2019, 03:27:15 pm »
I got a Merkur Futur for Christmas and have been using it since.

How did I let this go without suggesting that it's Samuel L. Jackson's razor of choice?
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