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A&M to SEC?
« on: August 09, 2011, 10:51:32 am »
I understand the general slant of this board is going to range from who cares to good riddance with lots of laughter in between, but...


There's A LOT of smoke around A&M changing conferences to the east this morning.

If this happens, I assume the Big XII-II would continue with TCU or (more likely IMO) Houston.

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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2011, 10:52:24 am »
I think the Big XIIish is dead man walking at this point - A&M prob to SEC (maybe with OU), Texas goes independent, and the rest scurry for homes.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2011, 10:53:25 am »
I understand the general slant of this board is going to range from who cares to good riddance with lots of laughter in between, but...


There's A LOT of smoke around A&M changing conferences to the east this morning.

If this happens, I assume the Big XII-II would continue with TCU or (more likely IMO) Houston.

Isn't TCU already spoken for?  Big East right?
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2011, 10:55:06 am »
I think the Big XIIish is dead man walking at this point - A&M prob to SEC (maybe with OU), Texas goes independent, and the rest scurry for homes.

It should be, but being in a conference with a BCS bid is beneficial to Texas and OU.  Beyond the olympic sports, independence is a tough road.  Maybe the money Texas has now makes those benefits moot.

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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2011, 10:56:23 am »
Isn't TCU already spoken for?  Big East right?

Complete speculation on my part.  I assume that TCU would rather be here in a weak-BCS conference than there dealing with the travel and whatnot.  On the other hand, if more than just A&M leaves...I don't think there is a Big 12.

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2011, 10:56:33 am »
I think the Big XIIish is dead man walking at this point - A&M prob to SEC (maybe with OU), Texas goes independent, and the rest scurry for homes.

I think this is how it all finally shakes out, too. UT football could probably do fine in such a scenario (and they'd get less grief about the TV deal), but I'm not sure what it would mean for other sports. Even Notre Dame belongs to the Big East for basketball and baseball purposes.
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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2011, 11:01:24 am »
I understand the general slant of this board is going to range from who cares to good riddance with lots of laughter in between, but...


There's A LOT of smoke around A&M changing conferences to the east this morning.

If this happens, I assume the Big XII-II would continue with TCU or (more likely IMO) Houston.

If A&M goes to SEC, the Big 12 is finished.  TCU can't move, there's a shitload of penalties in the Big East contract.  UT will view the A&M move as their permission to test the independence waters.

The ultimate result will be the mega-conferences that were narrowly averted last year, but Notre Dame and UT will team to get the biggest sweetheart deal you can think of.
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« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2011, 11:01:52 am »
There's A LOT of smoke around A&M changing conferences to the east this morning.

By the way... private sources, message boards, what kind of smoke?
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2011, 11:03:08 am »
If A&M goes to SEC, the Big 12 is finished.  TCU can't move, there's a shitload of penalties in the Big East contract.  UT will view the A&M move as their permission to test the independence waters.

The ultimate result will be the mega-conferences that were narrowly averted last year, but Notre Dame and UT will team to get the biggest sweetheart deal you can think of.

Notre Dame won't team.  They already have the biggest sweetheart deal.  They own NBC and won't share.
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2011, 11:03:16 am »
It should be, but being in a conference with a BCS bid is beneficial to Texas and OU.  Beyond the olympic sports, independence is a tough road.  Maybe the money Texas has now makes those benefits moot.

I'm sure Texas can get the same ND bullshit BCS guarantee if they are in the top 8 or whatever.
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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2011, 11:03:44 am »
Notre Dame won't team.  They already have the biggest sweetheart deal.  They own NBC and won't share.

You'd be surprised.
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 11:04:57 am »
By the way... private sources, message boards, what kind of smoke?

Private sources at this point, but I haven't gone to the message boards yet...except here.

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 11:05:06 am »
I'm sure Texas can get the same ND bullshit BCS guarantee if they are in the top 8 or whatever.

Why?
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 11:06:33 am »
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2011, 11:07:03 am »
You'd be surprised.

Texas already has a sweetheart deal via ESPN...I'm pretty sure $300MM is a sweetheart deal.  The only thing they would need to do if they truly go indy is get the BCS to set them up the same way ND is set up.  Which is a no-brainer.

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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2011, 11:11:30 am »
Billy Liucci is making some pretty bold tweets that this will happen, as in A&M starts football play in 2012.
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2011, 11:11:51 am »
Texas already has a sweetheart deal via ESPN...I'm pretty sure $300MM is a sweetheart deal.  The only thing they would need to do if they truly go indy is get the BCS to set them up the same way ND is set up.  Which is a no-brainer.

I don't get this.  Texas isn't in ND's class for national name recognition.  No one is.  Only people in Texas think that.  If the BCS opens to Texas, though I don't know why the other large schools in the BCS would allow it, then other schools, like Florida, and perhaps the entire SEC and Big Ten, will have to be satisfied in some massive way.
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« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2011, 11:13:47 am »
Billy Liucci is making some pretty bold tweets that this will happen, as in A&M starts football play in 2012.

Just saw that, and he's still using IF.  On the other hand, he very rarely goes out on any kind of limb, so he's getting information from somewhere.

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« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2011, 11:15:36 am »
I understand the general slant of this board is going to range from who cares to good riddance with lots of laughter in between, but...


There's A LOT of smoke around A&M changing conferences to the east this morning.

If this happens, I assume the Big XII-II would continue with TCU or (more likely IMO) Houston.

I know you don't want to hear it, but it is about time.  The aggies have been whistling dixie for a long time, and it is about time they fulfill their wish.  This wish seems to part of a larger sentiment I see taking over this state in the last years which I find disturbing and weakening.  Namely, that Texas is a deep south state which blames Washington for all its troubles and harbors resentments against anything which is not steeped in rural culture.  There might not be a connection, since this is only an athletic alignment, but hopefully, A&M's move might help free others in this state to look beyond the deep south for their values.  

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« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2011, 11:17:57 am »
For the record, as long as the rivalry game is still played on Thanksgiving, I'm totally cool with this move.  IT's the right move for the Aggies and not for UT, so let's have an amicable divorce.
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