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Friday Point and Laugh Thread
« on: September 17, 2010, 10:20:04 am »
Tom Hicks is tapped out and about to lose control of Liverpool FC.

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Tom Hicks has launched a last-ditch bid to retain control of Liverpool by looking to secure another refinancing deal as his co-owner, George Gillett, attempts to avoid defaulting on a $75m loan that could cost him his involvement in the Anfield club.
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Re: Friday Point and Laugh Thread
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2010, 10:25:49 am »
Tom Hicks is tapped out and about to lose control of Liverpool FC.


Hey Limey, I watched "The Damned United" the other day.  Good film.  How did Leeds fall so far from their once-dynastic position to being where they are now?  What are the big innacuracies in that film?

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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2010, 11:24:25 am »
Hey Limey, I watched "The Damned United" the other day.  Good film.  How did Leeds fall so far from their once-dynastic position to being where they are now?  What are the big innacuracies in that film?

Leeds was mismanaged by a fucking retard of an owner who ran them into the ground.

The movie is from the book of the same name by David Peace, who specialises in filling in the blanks around facts, with fiction of his own invention.  In this case, the facts about Clough's record (who would've made the English national team a fucking dynasty to rival Brazil, if those spineless bastards had ever given him the job) and the records of the clubs he managed, the fact that he was only Leeds manager for 44 days and his split with Peter Taylor are all true.  What Peace fictionalised is the "drama" of the story, i.e. all the internal interactions and shenanigans.  I don't know whether Clough and Revie had the televised showdown or not.

It is believed to be true that Clough did tell all the Leeds players to "chuck their winners medals in the bin because they won them by cheating".  They were a dirty bunch of cunts, to be sure.  The footage of the punch ups during the Charity Shield match with Liverpool is real.

Clough's teams always played with style.  They had a sharpness and intelligence about them such that, if they had the ball just outside your penalty area, and the player had a split-second of time to think, my brain would automatically think "Fuck".  Three quickfire passes later, and your goalie would be picking the ball out of his net.  He was a brilliant coach, and one of the most arrogant fucks the human race has ever produced.

David Peace also penned the "Red Riding" quartet, which I haven't read, but I have seen the superb 3-part adaptation that's now available via Netflix.  It follows the thread of corruption and incompetence exposed within the West Yorkshire Police Force due to their litany of failures and fuck-ups during the Yorkshire Ripper murders (true).  Highly recommended.
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Re: Friday Point and Laugh Thread
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2010, 11:34:25 am »
Brian Clough, the Wikiality.

Check out his playing record - he scored nearly a goal a game.  Nowadays, a striker who scores 20 goals in a 60-game season is a super hero.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2010, 12:15:21 pm »
Leeds was mismanaged by a fucking retard of an owner who ran them into the ground.

The movie is from the book of the same name by David Peace, who specialises in filling in the blanks around facts, with fiction of his own invention.  In this case, the facts about Clough's record (who would've made the English national team a fucking dynasty to rival Brazil, if those spineless bastards had ever given him the job) and the records of the clubs he managed, the fact that he was only Leeds manager for 44 days and his split with Peter Taylor are all true.  What Peace fictionalised is the "drama" of the story, i.e. all the internal interactions and shenanigans.  I don't know whether Clough and Revie had the televised showdown or not.

It is believed to be true that Clough did tell all the Leeds players to "chuck their winners medals in the bin because they won them by cheating".  They were a dirty bunch of cunts, to be sure.  The footage of the punch ups during the Charity Shield match with Liverpool is real.

Clough's teams always played with style.  They had a sharpness and intelligence about them such that, if they had the ball just outside your penalty area, and the player had a split-second of time to think, my brain would automatically think "Fuck".  Three quickfire passes later, and your goalie would be picking the ball out of his net.  He was a brilliant coach, and one of the most arrogant fucks the human race has ever produced.

David Peace also penned the "Red Riding" quartet, which I haven't read, but I have seen the superb 3-part adaptation that's now available via Netflix.  It follows the thread of corruption and incompetence exposed within the West Yorkshire Police Force due to their litany of failures and fuck-ups during the Yorkshire Ripper murders (true).  Highly recommended.

Thanks.  Yeah, it really boggles my mind how this team that in the movie is suggested to be the New York Yankees of the era is the same team that had that recent internet clip of the announcers going losing their shit in the waning moments of a match that meant promotion to the premiere league-- and then they quickly fell back to third division afterward.

I also really liked the parts of the movie where they took that brief job as the coach of Brighton.  I actually wished they'd have shown more of this, like the atmosphere at their games, instead of falsely implying that Clough never actually got to coach them in a real season.

And yeah, the movie suggested that Clough thought of himself as a real badass as a player but never got his due or something like that.  I wonder what the real deal was-- sounds like British soccer was very much still in the grips of the old guard around that time, so perhaps his personality was a detriment to himself as a player as well.

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Re: Friday Point and Laugh Thread
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2010, 11:43:52 pm »
BTW, also in the point and laugh category, the Cubs have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. 
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 04:15:56 pm »
BTW, also in the point and laugh category, the Cubs have been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. 

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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2010, 10:22:39 am »
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Re: Friday Point and Laugh Thread
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2010, 10:32:38 am »
For the record (and not for pointing and laughing), the Astros were eliminated last night from both the Central and Wild Card races.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2010, 12:11:40 pm »
For the record (and not for pointing and laughing), the Astros were eliminated last night from both the Central and Wild Card races.

At the beginning of the season, who woulda thought the Astros would have still be in it this late in the season?
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