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Draft 2010
« on: April 23, 2010, 08:39:43 am »
ESPN is speculating that Houston might still be looking at a catcher with the #8 pick in the draft: Crazy Talk

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Chances are that one of those two (Towles or Castro), or possibly Quintero, are the answer in the mean time, but the Astros select No. 8 in the first round of June's First-year Player Draft, and could tab their future backstop then, too.

Miami's Yasmani Grandal and LSU's Micah Gibbs are among the top college backstops available this year, and Grandal could land in Houston's lap if they don't believe Castro is their guy.
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2010, 09:21:36 am »
I'm no amateur draft expert, but that sounds asinine.
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2010, 09:44:18 am »
That's the first mention I've ever seen that the Astros might not believe that Castro's their guy.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2010, 09:51:05 am »
Sure, ESPN. They took two possible catchers in the top ten rounds in '09 (J. Meyer and E. Castro), but they decided to play both at 3B just because they don't think Jason Castro is their guy. Crazy talk indeed.

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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2010, 09:59:35 am »
Seems like a basic case where outside speculators can't draw a line between two points without injecting a third.  I would wager if Houston  is, in fact, looking at either of those players it's because of their overall ability, not position.  Heck and Wade have said so, repeatedly.  I don't see a need to extrapolate further on the matter.  Then again, I'm not a sportswriter. 

As an aside, has it ever occurred that both the starting catcher and backup catcher had the same last name (J. Castro and E. Castro)?  Setting aside the "The Astro's Castros" opportunity, I think the trivia aspect is enough reason to give E. Castro a cup of coffee (I'm assuming Jason Castro is a lock for the majors).   
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2010, 10:54:38 am »
I hope we don't draft Yasmani Grandal from Miami.   We'd be opening the door for 'grundle' jokes for years to come.  It would be much more convenient if the Cubs drafted this guy
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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2010, 02:41:47 pm »
Eh? Castro not the guy? Are they basing this off the fact that he didn't make the team out of spring training? Oh Espn, how you make me chuckle. Yeah Castro might not end up being that slugging hr hitting catcher we are all so so sooo accustom to seeing in the bigs *rolls eyes*...but he does look like a guy who will hit a good .280 to .300 with a lot of doubles and walks. Not to mention, I've only heard good things about his skills behind the plate...mlb teams don't care about a catcher being able to catch or call a game though according to espn.

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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2010, 03:08:00 pm »
I know it is here somewhere. I recall 3 picks in the top ? for the Astros. What draft slots do they have.

Whatever they are, I will remain extremely positive with Wade/Heck at the helm.

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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2010, 03:16:31 pm »
I know it is here somewhere. I recall 3 picks in the top ? for the Astros. What draft slots do they have.

Whatever they are, I will remain extremely positive with Wade/Heck at the helm.

8, 19, and 33 to start.  That's 3 of the Astros top 33 ranked amateurs this June.
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2010, 06:28:39 pm »
8, 19, and 33 to start.  That's 3 of the Astros top 33 ranked amateurs this June.

And 5 in the top 100 (2nd round = 58 and 3rd round = 90)
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2010, 06:38:08 pm »
I haven't seen a ton of mock drafts yet (as its still early for that), but here are a couple from the MLB Bonus Baby site (pretty good place to get draft and draft prospect info):

Mock draft #4: first round; first round supplemental.

1st round (pick #8): Austin Wilson, OF, Harvard-Westlake HS (CA) – This pick assumes that Wilson doesn’t want $10 million, not that I’m saying I’ve heard anything about him wanting that much. Wilson represents the best raw upside in the entire hitting class outside of Harper, and the Astros typically love their raw, powerful, athletic hitters. With a pair of first-round picks, it’s questionable that they could afford an Austin Wilson type of prospect, but don’t underestimate them. Previously: 17, 13, 10.

1st round (pick #19): Kevin Gausman, RHP, Grandview HS (CO) – It really bothers me when I continually plug in the same player in the same slot over a number of mock drafts. However, this pick just makes too much sense. The Astros really like projectable prep arms with good command and plenty of potential, and they also aren’t afraid to find those pitchers in non-traditional baseball states. Gausman fits all of that criteria, and his season is just heating up. Previously: 27, 19, 19.

1st round supplemental (pick #33): Robbie Aviles, RHP, Suffern HS (NY) – The Astros have been building strong pitching depth through the draft in the two years since Bobby Heck took over, and I expect more of the same this year. After getting their hitting prospect with Austin Wilson early, going with Gausman and Aviles, a pair of high-ceiling arms in the Astros’ style of drafting would make a lot of sense. No matter who the names are on draft day, I expect the Astros to walk away with at least a pair of high-level arms. Previously: NR, 42, 31.
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2010, 08:16:46 am »
There is no way we draft a catcher in the first 2/3 rounds.   Looking at our drafting under Heck, we draft best available but also somewhat for need.   We will draft at least 2 pitchers in the first 3 rounds - have done well over the past 2 years (Bushue and Lyles). 

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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 10:09:58 am »
Is there an eventual replacement for Berkman that may be a good pick for one of those slots? Seems to me a big hole in the organization.

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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 10:39:43 am »
Is there an eventual replacement for Berkman that may be a good pick for one of those slots? Seems to me a big hole in the organization.

Right now there's no obvious replacement.  This draft doesn't really have a 1b you'd look at right now and say, "That's the guy."
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2010, 10:40:29 am »
Right now, I have the odd feeling that the Astros are going to go college player at 8, high school at 19, college at 33.
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2010, 12:06:01 pm »
Right now, I have the odd feeling that the Astros are going to go college player at 8, high school at 19, college at 33.
You're thinking of specific guys, or just a concerted effort to get some polished guys who could be on the fast track (as opposed to last year, when they were very high-school/potential-heavy in the early going)?
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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2010, 01:10:21 pm »
You're thinking of specific guys, or just a concerted effort to get some polished guys who could be on the fast track (as opposed to last year, when they were very high-school/potential-heavy in the early going)?

Because there's no way the Astros will know who will be available when they pick, concerted effort.  Getting young talent to the majors just as fast as possible, ala Castro.
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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2010, 03:20:34 pm »
Because there's no way the Astros will know who will be available when they pick, concerted effort.  Getting young talent to the majors just as fast as possible, ala Castro.

I'm not so sure...  The first 4 picks in each of the 2 years of Heck drafting have included 1 collegian (Castro) and 7 HSers (3 pitchers, 4 position players).  Maybe if someone like Zach Cox (JR Arkansas, 3B/possible 2B) is there at 8th they'd go with him, but otherwise I'd WAG that there will be at least 2 HSers in the first 3 picks (and very possibly 3).
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Re: Draft 2010
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2010, 07:42:19 pm »
MLB Bonus Baby has his 5th Mock draft up.  LINK

(And yes, he does agree that it's too early to really know who the teams may pick but thinks the mocks are a fun exercise.  I'd agree...)

8. Houston Astros - Zack Cox, 3B, Arkansas - I keep coming back to pairing Cox and the Astros together, and this is the third mock I've done so. It just makes a lot of sense from multiple standpoints. He should be pretty affordable for close to slot money for a team with a couple extra early picks, he fits a mold for solid hitting and power projection, and he also fills an organizational need at either third or second base. Previously: #10.

19. Houston Astros - Kaleb Cowart, RHP, Cook County HS (GA) - Though the feeling in the scouting community is still split on Cowart's long-term position, I see a team that values athleticism on the mound jumping on him early as a pitcher. The Astros love athletic arms with projectability and a decent pitch mix, and Cowart has both. Previously: #20.
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2010, 09:03:56 pm »
MLB Bonus Baby has his 5th Mock draft up.  LINK

(And yes, he does agree that it's too early to really know who the teams may pick but thinks the mocks are a fun exercise.  I'd agree...)

8. Houston Astros - Zack Cox, 3B, Arkansas - I keep coming back to pairing Cox and the Astros together, and this is the third mock I've done so. It just makes a lot of sense from multiple standpoints. He should be pretty affordable for close to slot money for a team with a couple extra early picks, he fits a mold for solid hitting and power projection, and he also fills an organizational need at either third or second base. Previously: #10.

19. Houston Astros - Kaleb Cowart, RHP, Cook County HS (GA) - Though the feeling in the scouting community is still split on Cowart's long-term position, I see a team that values athleticism on the mound jumping on him early as a pitcher. The Astros love athletic arms with projectability and a decent pitch mix, and Cowart has both. Previously: #20.


I'm going to disagree on the first and agree on 19.  From his mock I think the Astros would look at McGuire and Colon over Cox.  Both are definite up the middle guys.  Cox may or may not be one.  And defensively he'sd not going to have great range at 2b, something Wade covets.  At 19 athletic guy with a power arm.  Sounds like a stronger version of Lyles.  Also, from this mock I'd have the Astros going after Paxton at 33.
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