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Corpus Christi 2010
« on: April 09, 2010, 10:18:09 am »
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Re: Corpus Christi 2010
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 04:28:46 pm »
Lyles covered in a subscription piece by BA. Anyone with the magic words care to summarize?
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Re: Corpus Christi 2010
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 04:51:08 pm »
Article by Levine:

Lyles has always been young for his level and has always succeeded against the tougher competition.

Apparently, Lyles expected to go in the second or third round of the draft, and it wasn't a hard decision to sign: "It was pretty easy when I got called" ... "They wanted me and I felt like I could make an impact."

Ricky Bennett says Lyles wasn't necessarily ticketed for Corpus but showed he could handle it with his spring performance.

Lyles will be working on throwing better strikes and keeping the ball down: "Last year I got away with some things, leaving the ball up," Lyles said. "But as I move up, I won't be able to get away with the same stuff."

Low-90s fastball that hits 94, decent curve and change, occasional slider, and might work in his cutter this season.

Organization loves his maturity and ability to adjust quickly when struggling: "He'll be struggling with his fastball, and after a pitch or two you'll see him make an adjustment," Bennett said.

From 2000-2009, the only other pitchers to spend the whole of their age 19 seasons at AA or above: Carlos Zambrano, Oscar Villarreal, Jerome Williams, Edwin Jackson, Felix Hernandez (AAA). 2010 will feature Lyles and Rangers LHP Martin Perez performing the feat.

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 04:56:38 pm »
From 2000-2009, the only other pitchers to spend the whole of their age 19 seasons at AA or above: Carlos Zambrano, Oscar Villarreal, Jerome Williams, Edwin Jackson, Felix Hernandez (AAA). 2010 will feature Lyles and Rangers LHP Martin Perez performing the feat.

That's a pretty hit or miss bunch.
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2010, 11:14:44 am »
Lyles went 5 innings last night and allowed 4 hits with 1 earned run in a 2-1 loss. 7Ks, 1 BB. 2.30 ERA. He threw 91 pitches, 62 for strikes.

He has 16 strikeouts to only 2 walks so far this season. He might have a future in the bigs.

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2010, 01:55:36 pm »
Lyles hits #1 on this weeks BA prospect hot sheet.  LINK
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Re: Corpus Christi 2010
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2010, 02:07:33 pm »
Lyles hits #1 on this weeks BA prospect hot sheet.  LINK

The Cubs have 3 of the top 11 there. It will be interesting to see how they fuck them up.
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2010, 03:00:51 pm »
The Cubs have 3 of the top 11 there. It will be interesting to see how they fuck them up.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 10:19:30 pm »
Would love it if someone could give a first hand account of Villar.  He is lights out so far this season.  He went 2 innings tonight and fanned 5.
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 01:26:00 am »
Would love it if someone could give a first hand account of Villar.  He is lights out so far this season.  He went 2 innings tonight and fanned 5.
Color me interested, too.
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 08:22:58 am »
Would love it if someone could give a first hand account of Villar.  He is lights out so far this season.  He went 2 innings tonight and fanned 5.
Wasn't there talk last year, when he was doing well both in relief and spot starts, of making him a full-time starter? Do you think they might still be planning that, but wanted to ease him into AA in the 'pen?
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Re: Corpus Christi 2010
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2010, 11:40:02 am »
Doesn't seem right that Towles first start at CC is catching our system's best pitching prospect given he was sent down because pitchers don't like working with him, he doesn't call a good game, etc.
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Re: Corpus Christi 2010
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2010, 08:22:16 pm »
Doesn't seem right that Towles first start at CC is catching our system's best pitching prospect given he was sent down because pitchers don't like working with him, he doesn't call a good game, etc.

They want him to learn how to overcome adversity.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 03:32:56 pm »
They want him to learn how to overcome adversity.

Lyles, you mean?
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 03:41:43 pm »
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Re: Corpus Christi 2010
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2010, 02:31:18 pm »
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2010, 10:44:53 pm »
Lyles with a complete game win (4-2) tonight vs. San Antonio tonight.  BOX

Line: 9.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO, 0 HR.  Threw 95 pitches (67 strikes, 28 balls). ERA on the season comes down to 2.29.
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2010, 11:49:37 pm »
Lyles with a complete game win (4-2) tonight vs. San Antonio tonight.  BOX

Line: 9.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO, 0 HR.  Threw 95 pitches (67 strikes, 28 balls). ERA on the season comes down to 2.29.


Love the efficiency.

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2010, 12:23:47 am »

Love the efficiency.

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Re: Corpus Christi 2010
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2010, 03:23:53 am »
Also, Koby Clemens hit his league-leading tenth HR to help Lyles to a win. Kid can rake.

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2010, 07:31:13 am »
Lyles with a complete game win (4-2) tonight vs. San Antonio tonight.  BOX

Line: 9.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 SO, 0 HR.  Threw 95 pitches (67 strikes, 28 balls). ERA on the season comes down to 2.29.

16 IPs in his last two games. Control better tonight than against Frisco last week. Very nice.

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2010, 12:02:22 pm »
Also, Koby Clemens hit his league-leading tenth HR to help Lyles to a win. Kid can rake.

Is it possible we have a candidate for 1b, post-Berkman?
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2010, 12:08:37 pm »
Is it possible we have a candidate for 1b, post-Berkman?

No.

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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2010, 12:32:35 pm »
Is it possible we have a candidate for 1b, post-Berkman?

Anything is possible, but right now it looks unlikely.  He's got a long way to go.  He's got to hit for a much higher average and cut down on the K's.  He's got to improve defensively as well.  That's to start with.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2010, 04:58:57 pm »
Anything is possible, but right now it looks unlikely.  He's got a long way to go.  He's got to hit for a much higher average and cut down on the K's.  He's got to improve defensively as well.  That's to start with.

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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2010, 05:35:15 pm »
Per McTaggart (via Twitter): "Ed Wade tells media J.R. Towles broke his hand and is out at least four weeks."
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2010, 05:36:05 pm »
Per McTaggart (via Twitter): "Ed Wade tells media J.R. Towles broke his hand and is out at least four weeks."


Please tell me he didn't lose a fight with the water cooler.

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2010, 06:35:31 pm »

Please tell me he didn't lose a fight with the water cooler.

Per Levine: LINK

Towles was examined by team physician Dr. Tom Melhoff in Houston Wednesday and is out 4-6 weeks with a thumb injury sustained sliding into second base on May 13.

Per the Twitterazzi....

@AstrosCounty @thescorer says Towles broke his hand sliding into 2nd. 2nd base is upset because of Towles' inability to communicate.
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2010, 07:54:59 pm »
Per Levine: LINK

Towles was examined by team physician Dr. Tom Melhoff in Houston Wednesday and is out 4-6 weeks with a thumb injury sustained sliding into second base on May 13.

Per the Twitterazzi....

@AstrosCounty @thescorer says Towles broke his hand sliding into 2nd. 2nd base is upset because of Towles' inability to communicate.

I was at that game. He stole 2B and was shaking his hand but stayed in the game. Played several games afterwards. Too bad for him.

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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2010, 10:34:38 pm »
I was at that game. He stole 2B and was shaking his hand but stayed in the game. Played several games afterwards. Too bad for him.
So I gather you're basing your unfavorable opinion of Clemens on 1st-hand observation. Can you elaborate on what you've seen of him?
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2010, 10:39:09 pm »
So I gather you're basing your unfavorable opinion of Clemens on 1st-hand observation. Can you elaborate on what you've seen of him?

I didn't like the way he wore his socks.

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« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2010, 12:08:31 am »
Doug Arguello is having a pretty good run.  Last 3 starts:

24.2 IP, 3 ER, ERA 1.09
12 H, 8 BB, WHIP 0.81
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« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2010, 04:49:32 am »
Interesting piece on the mechanical adjustments of Jordan Lyles from High School to Pro Ball from Baseball-Intellect: LINK
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« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2010, 08:35:46 pm »
Chia-Jen Lo out for at least a month with a partial tear of his ulnar collateral ligament (Levine LINK)
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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2010, 09:57:06 pm »
And on a lighter note...  Clemens went 4-4 with 2 bombs and Steele went 4-4 with a 2B against Springfield tonight.  BOX
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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2010, 03:02:25 am »
And on a lighter note...  Clemens went 4-4 with 2 bombs and Steele went 4-4 with a 2B against Springfield tonight.  BOX

Very nice. 

Should Berkman get traded in July.  They probably could call Shelton to the Majors and bump Clemens to AAA. 

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« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2010, 12:50:50 pm »
Doug Arguello is having a pretty good run.  Last 3 starts:

24.2 IP, 3 ER, ERA 1.09
12 H, 8 BB, WHIP 0.81
16 K
3 W
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Astros live getting the featured Corpus Christi players' stats wrong (they left up the Round Rock ones) inspired me to take a rare peak at the AA team's stats I noticed this guy.  He's a lefty, right?  What's his story?  I don't think I've heard of him before.
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« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2010, 12:30:05 pm »
Astros live getting the featured Corpus Christi players' stats wrong (they left up the Round Rock ones) inspired me to take a rare peak at the AA team's stats I noticed this guy.  He's a lefty, right?  What's his story?  I don't think I've heard of him before.

Soft-tossing lefty.
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« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2010, 07:32:17 am »
Lyles pulled after 4 innings? 

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« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2010, 07:36:35 am »
Lyles pulled after 4 innings? 

rain delay. He didn't come back after it.

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« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2010, 07:57:42 am »
rain delay. He didn't come back after it.

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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2010, 10:44:19 pm »
Clemens hits 16th HR of the season (1-3, 1 HR, 1 R, 2 RBI, 2 BB). BOX SCORE

Clemens is now tied for 4th in MiLB in HR.  

Clemens stats. LINK
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« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2010, 05:17:33 pm »
Hooks to send 5 to the Texas League All-Star game.  LINK

Position players (3): Koby Clemens (1B starter);  Wladimir Sutil (IF reserve); and J.B. Shuck (IF reserve).
Pitchers (2): Douglas Arguello and Jordan Lyles.
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« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2010, 11:19:16 pm »
Lyles with 7 scoreless in 'relief' appearance.  LINE: 7.0 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 3 BB, 11 K.  LINK

Sampson started the game threw 1 scoreless (0 H, 1 BB, 1 SO) in a rehab appearance, but Meszaros got lit up for 5 R (4 ER) without registering an out in his first appearance since coming off the DL.
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« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2010, 11:45:08 pm »
so when can we look for a lyles promotion?  other than his age, is there alot more for him to prove at AA?

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« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2010, 01:15:28 am »
other than his age, is there alot more for him to prove at AA?

Consistency maybe?  Game story LINK

Lyles: "I hadn't had a good curveball for most of the year," said the South Carolina native, who also throws a fastball, cutter and changeup. "But that was there tonight. All of [my pitches] felt pretty good coming out of my hand."  

"Coming into this year, I just wanted to work on my curveball, make that a more consistent pitch.  Up 'til now, it hasn't been too great. But it worked for me tonight, so hopefully I can start putting together some more good starts."
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« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2010, 06:50:43 am »
What about a Clemens promotion?  I know he doesn't have a position, but he seems to have no problem putting the ball out of the park on a regular basis in Corpus.

Are they at least working him at 1B?  His bat seems too good to just park him in the system as trade bait for the AL.

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« Reply #47 on: June 16, 2010, 09:06:14 am »
so when can we look for a lyles promotion?  other than his age, is there alot more for him to prove at AA?

he needs a much better breaking ball, either the slider or the curve.  I saw the game last night, and even though the quotes indicate he was satisfied with his curve, it needs a lot of improvement. His slider is also only so-so.

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« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2010, 09:15:03 am »
Consistency maybe?  Game story LINK

Lyles: "I hadn't had a good curveball for most of the year," said the South Carolina native, who also throws a fastball, cutter and changeup. "But that was there tonight. All of [my pitches] felt pretty good coming out of my hand."  

"Coming into this year, I just wanted to work on my curveball, make that a more consistent pitch.  Up 'til now, it hasn't been too great. But it worked for me tonight, so hopefully I can start putting together some more good starts."

cool.  i try to keep up with the updates you guys provide but dont catch everything.  it's good to see he at least has an idea of what needs to go on.

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« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2010, 12:20:10 pm »
he needs a much better breaking ball, either the slider or the curve.  I saw the game last night, and even though the quotes indicate he was satisfied with his curve, it needs a lot of improvement. His slider is also only so-so.

Yeah, this is exactly why I think his entire year should be dedicated to the development of all of his pitches...particularly his breaking balls. So, I'm in no rush to see him called up by now...not until his breaking pitches are refined and far more effective to the point where he wont get crushed at the AAA level even.

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« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2010, 11:06:49 pm »
nice little read on koby   he seems like he is maturing as a player you gotta love this quote
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« Reply #51 on: June 17, 2010, 05:40:47 pm »
Nice piece on German Duran at the Hooks website.  LINK
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« Reply #52 on: June 17, 2010, 10:09:09 pm »
Got to see three Hooks games against the Missions.

The qoute from Lyle's about how he doesn't know if he is finesse or power is pretty interesting. He threw 88-92. His most effective weapon was his fastball command. He owned both corners, to righties and lefties. He didn't really have a swing and miss pitch. Five of the Ks were looking, four of which were fastballs. You don't often see a guy tying up hitters with low 90s fastball. His change is his second best pitch. Some have more life than others, but he commanded it well, and it certainly kept hitters off balance. In his only jam, he went to it on a full count. Totally fooled the guy. Looked like a strike to me, but was called a ball. Both his breaking pitches need work.

All in all, you got to like a 19 year old who pitches years ahead of his age. Hard to say on his upside. On the one hand, he doesn't have dominating stuff, but on the other, I could see him as one who could dominate by keeping batters off balance, assuming the breaking pitch improves.

Sampson wasn't sharp.

Meszaros gave up five without recording an out, but he was 92-95, had some bad luck, and I was actually more impressed with him than when I saw him last year.

Villar looked OK, but threw everything up in the zone. I mean everything. The Missions are horrible batters. I would have liked to see if that high stuff works against better hitters.

Shuck is defintely the most likely Hook to make contact. Clemens is the most likely to hit it hard, and to miss it. I don't think it is a problem with approach, although I think he could be better seved by being more aggresive. He just flat out misses a lot of pitches. A lot. They seem to work him with breaking balls, but he misses fastballs also.

Gaston made an exceptional over the shoulder catch, but he seemed lost at the plate, as did Steele.

Santangelo pulled a George Brett pine tar tirade over a bad call. He looked unprovoked. It was very odd actually. Rarely seen something like that.

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« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2010, 12:43:55 am »
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« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2010, 09:30:40 pm »
Lyles with another good outing.  LINK

LINE: 7.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 SO, 0 HR (98 pitches, 70 strikes). His ERA is now 2.37.
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« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2010, 09:37:50 pm »
Lyles with another good outing.  LINK

LINE: 7.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 SO, 0 HR (98 pitches, 70 strikes). His ERA is now 2.37.

98 pitches, 70 strikes.  Wow.

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« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2010, 01:15:15 am »
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You want a hot streak? #Astros OF J.B. Shuck has five straight multi-hit games for AA Corpus Christi; 26-for-54 (.481) in last 13 games.[/]
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« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2010, 09:04:02 am »
In addition to starting in the AA All-Star Game, Koby is also participating in the Home Run Derby, where he'll bring his own BP pitcher. 

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« Reply #60 on: June 29, 2010, 11:26:00 pm »
Texas League notebook on Lyles: Link


Lyles on the toughest adjustment for him in playing profession baseball:

"Not hitting. "Not playing football, not playing basketball. Just baseball year around."

Clements on Lyles and pinch hitting:

"He's a natural competitor. He wants to hit more than he wants to pitch. He asks me to pinch-hit three or four times a week. I keep telling him I like my job too much.  *** If  he wants to guarantee me 20 years and a salary, I'll let him pinch-hit, because that would be the last move I make."

Lyles is just yanking Clements chain about hitting, sort of...

"It's tough sometimes, but I signed as a pitcher and I know my future is pitching.  It's always fun to go out there and swing it a little bit. I just give our manager a hard time and play around with him."

Clements misc on Lyles:

Clements said Lyles had a plus-plus changeup, and while his fastball isn't overpowering, his command makes up for it.  "He doesn't throw 95, but his delivery is a little different," Clements said. "Big, tall kid, and 90 at the knees works pretty good. It works pretty good in the big leagues."  

Just don't blame Lyles' desire to hit on the restlessness of youth. "The kid just wants to win," Clements said, "and he gives his team a pretty good chance."

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« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2010, 11:26:58 pm »
Speaking of Lyles, I wonder if the former USC Gamecock recruit was paying much attention to the CWS tonight?
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« Reply #62 on: July 02, 2010, 09:08:47 am »
Sickels with a quick note on Jordan Lyles in his 7/2 minor league notes: LINK


**Jordan Lyles in the Astros system is only 19, and he's pitching in the Texas League with outstanding results: 2.60 ERA, 85/22 K/BB in 93 innings, 87 hits.  I know he doesn't have the 99 MPH fastball that attracts notice, but he throws hard enough in the low-90s, his secondary stuff is advanced for his age, he throws strikes, and his performance has been excellent. He's also a good athlete. I don't know why he doesn't get more attention, but he looks like a helluva prospect to me. At this rate he'll be a Top Ten Pitching Prospect by the end of the year. Depending on what happens with other pitchers and what his year-end numbers and scouting reports look like, he could be a Top Five guy.
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« Reply #63 on: July 05, 2010, 05:44:13 pm »
Villar is scheduled to make his first start of the season tonight.  Anyone know if this is a possible permanent move? 

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« Reply #64 on: July 05, 2010, 11:38:11 pm »
Villar is scheduled to make his first start of the season tonight.  Anyone know if this is a possible permanent move? 

1.0 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 7 ER, 2 HR...  Can't bode incredibly well for the kid...  BOX SCORE

On the bright side... Koby Clemens went 2-4, 2 HR. 3 R, 4 RBI.  Now 2nd in the Texas League in HRs with 18.
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« Reply #65 on: July 06, 2010, 09:18:50 am »
Noticed Vallejo has been back for a few days.  Good to see his hand's healed.

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Noticed Vallejo has been back for a few days.  Good to see his hand's healed.
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« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2010, 12:29:16 am »
Lyles was spanked tonight to the tune of 3.1 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 6 BB, 1 SO, 0 HR. Box score
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« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2010, 01:04:42 am »
Lyles was spanked tonight to the tune of 3.1 IP, 8 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 6 BB, 1 SO, 0 HR. Box score
Just a bump in the road :P....six walks dear god.

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« Reply #69 on: July 09, 2010, 10:48:15 pm »
Hooks lose both games of a double header today, extending their consecutive loss streak to 14 15 games.
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« Reply #70 on: July 09, 2010, 11:00:45 pm »
Hooks lose both games of a double header today, extending their consecutive loss streak to 14 games.

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« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2010, 11:39:50 pm »
Make that 16 in a row... LINK

Their site says tomorrow is guaranteed win night--if they don't win, fans with Sunday tix get free duckets to Monday or Tuesday's game.   Sounds like a good deal!  Here's hoping they don't have to pay out on that one.

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« Reply #73 on: July 11, 2010, 06:59:19 pm »
So, saw Lyles with his stint in the Futures game, his fastball was sitting at 88-89 but it had a lot more movement than I originally thought. His change up moves really nicely as well and he has a great mound presence that is very calm and confident.

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« Reply #74 on: July 11, 2010, 11:37:01 pm »
Their site says tomorrow is guaranteed win night--if they don't win, fans with Sunday tix get free duckets to Monday or Tuesday's game.   Sounds like a good deal!  Here's hoping they don't have to pay out on that one.

Streak stopped at 16.  Hooks came back from a 5-2 deficit to win 6-5.  Box score
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« Reply #75 on: July 12, 2010, 02:41:08 am »
BA's "Picking Best Tools And More From Futures Game"

Best Showcase: Jordan Lyles, rhp, Astros

The Futures Game is a great opportunity for power pitchers like Scheppers to air out their fastballs in one-inning stints. With a fastball that sat at 90-92 mph, Lyles doesn't have that type of velocity, but he showed why at 19 he's been able to master the Double-A Texas League. Lyles showcased his entire repertoire—a fastball, a curveball that he's throwing with a new grip, a slider/cutter hybrid that he started throwing at the end of last year and an above-average changeup. Lyles' ability to throw strikes to all quadrants of the strike zone helped keep World hitters off balance.

"Last year was kind of like a new stage of pitching in and out," Lyles said. "In Rookie ball and in high school, I really just stayed away. (Last year) I realized I needed to go in to get hitters to stop diving. That led to less pitches during the game and I've been able to stay in the game longer."
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« Reply #76 on: July 12, 2010, 12:04:01 pm »
So, saw Lyles with his stint in the Futures game, his fastball was sitting at 88-89 but it had a lot more movement than I originally thought. His change up moves really nicely as well and he has a great mound presence that is very calm and confident.

Sometimes I think the gun at Angel Stadium is a little slow by two or three mph or so.

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« Reply #77 on: July 12, 2010, 09:47:44 pm »
Here is what Keith Law had to say about him: Insider LINK

• Jordan Lyles (Astros) showed four pitches, working from 89-94 with an excellent changeup, a curve and a cutter/slider. He went right after hitters and utilized the changeup against left-handed hitters, showing good arm speed.
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« Reply #78 on: July 13, 2010, 09:35:17 am »
Here is what Keith Law had to say about him: Insider LINK

• Jordan Lyles (Astros) showed four pitches, working from 89-94 with an excellent changeup, a curve and a cutter/slider. He went right after hitters and utilized the changeup against left-handed hitters, showing good arm speed.

Gawd, you can almost hear Law's sphincter tighten as he writes about the Astros without saying anything negative or snarky.
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« Reply #79 on: July 13, 2010, 09:48:43 am »
Gawd, you can almost hear Law's sphincter tighten as he writes about the Astros without saying anything negative or snarky.

Law has Lyles ranked as the 24th(?) best prospect in the minors right now. Considering the automatic minuses Law would certainly ascribe to any prospect drafted by a team with Ed Wade as general manager, that tells me the kid must be really, really good...
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« Reply #80 on: July 14, 2010, 12:19:59 am »
Hooks win in10, and take the series from the Naturals. LINK

Paulino threw 61 pitches of scoreless baseball with 2H, 1BB and 3K.
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« Reply #81 on: July 14, 2010, 01:00:06 pm »
South Carolina reporter Lou Bezjak tweets that the Astros brass will meet soon to decide if Lyles should be promoted to Round Rock.

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South Carolina reporter Lou Bezjak tweets that the Astros brass will meet soon to decide if Lyles should be promoted to Round Rock.
Not that I doubt him, but I am trying to figure out the connection that allows a reporter from South Carolina to hear about this before Corpus, Austin or Houston reporters....

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« Reply #83 on: July 14, 2010, 01:20:06 pm »
Not that I doubt him, but I am trying to figure out the connection that allows a reporter from South Carolina to hear about this before Corpus, Austin or Houston reporters....

Hadn't heard about a meeting, but it's not the first rumbling of a potential promotion:

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“Well,” is an understatement. The Texas League’s second-youngest pitcher has been so impressive this year Bennett alluded to the possibility Lyles could be bumped to Triple-A or even the big leagues this season.

“Who knows, we might have to challenge him before the end of the year, whether that is at the Triple-A level or major-league level because of how well he has performed,” Bennett said.

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« Reply #84 on: July 14, 2010, 01:21:07 pm »
Not that I doubt him, but I am trying to figure out the connection that allows a reporter from South Carolina to hear about this before Corpus, Austin or Houston reporters....

I wouldn't wonder if it is a lyles family connection since he is from SC.
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« Reply #85 on: July 14, 2010, 01:30:03 pm »
I wouldn't wonder if it is a lyles family connection since he is from SC.
I figured that must be what occured, but then if the Astros were meeting to talk about if they want to promote someone, I find it hard to believe they would tell the player, BEFORE they meet.... but maybe that is just me.

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« Reply #86 on: July 14, 2010, 01:37:36 pm »
Not that I doubt him, but I am trying to figure out the connection that allows a reporter from South Carolina to hear about this before Corpus, Austin or Houston reporters....

He's covering the hometown kid. Bezjak has interviewed Bennett about Lyles via email in the past.

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« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2010, 10:58:48 am »
BA has a front page article on Lyles today (subscription only).

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« Reply #88 on: July 15, 2010, 12:37:33 pm »
BA has a front page article on Lyles today (subscription only).

It's times like this when I miss my BA subscription. And having the money to buy a BA subscription.

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« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2010, 07:36:24 pm »
JD Martinez starting in left tonight for the Hooks, batting 6th.
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« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2010, 08:54:46 pm »
And in other Astros promotion news, 2008 48th round draft pick (#1433 overall) RHP Danny Meszaros has been promoted to Triple-A Round Rock!
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« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2010, 09:29:00 pm »
Frisco shut out Corpus tonight, allowing only 6 hits (JD Martinez with 2 of them, going 2-3, both singles). Lyles took the loss for the Hooks. LINK

Lyles: 7.0 IP, 8 H, 4 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO, 0 HR, 2.95 ERA
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« Reply #94 on: July 18, 2010, 12:43:53 am »
Hooks win 4-2, with the go ahead runs on a 2-out, 2-run triple from JD Martinez in the top of the 8th. Clemens, batting 4th, was intentionally walked in the top of the 8th to get to the Texas League newcomer Martinez (hitting 5th this evening, after hitting 6th yesterday), who was 0-3 on the night. Martinez extended his SAL/TL hitting streak to 9 games with the hit.  LINK
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« Reply #95 on: July 19, 2010, 08:59:45 pm »
Callis talks JD Martinez in this week's installment of Ask BA: LINK

Q: Is Astros outfielder J.D. Martinez a real prospect? Can you give us a brief report on him?

Callis: Martinez isn't a blue-chipper and will have to continue to prove himself as he advances, but the 20th-round pick from the 2009 draft is a prospect. After winning the short-season New York-Penn League batting title with a .326 average in his pro debut, he hit .359/.428/.593 at low Class A Lexington this spring before earning a two-level promotion to Double-A Corpus Christi a few days ago.

At 22, Martinez was old for low Class A, so Double-A will be a better test of his ability. He has a lot going for him at the plate, with a short swing, good bat speed and solid pop and plate discipline. He's a decent athlete whose best position may be left field, which means his bat will have to carry him. But he's undoubtedly one of the best hitting prospects in the Astros system.
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« Reply #96 on: July 19, 2010, 09:43:48 pm »
Clemens jacks 2 tonight for the Hooks. LINK  Sitting at 21 HRs on the season (along with 105 SO in 310 ABs).
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« Reply #97 on: July 19, 2010, 10:53:42 pm »
Keuchel a Hook?  That's what I think I'm reading anyway...  [Keuchel via Twitter: LINK]

Sad to say bye to my boys in Lancaster [Mike Modica David Berner and David Duncan], but ready to get started as a HOOK!

Farmstros also noting that Sergio Leon has been promoted from Lexington to Corpus as well.  LINK
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« Reply #98 on: July 20, 2010, 01:11:42 am »
Charlton Jimerson back in affiliated baseball with the AA Arkansas Travelers. 
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« Reply #99 on: July 20, 2010, 01:43:47 am »
Keuchel a Hook?  That's what I think I'm reading anyway...  [Keuchel via Twitter: LINK]

Sad to say bye to my boys in Lancaster [Mike Modica David Berner and David Duncan], but ready to get started as a HOOK!

Farmstros also noting that Sergio Leon has been promoted from Lexington to Corpus as well.  LINK

read the rest of his tweets...they're interesting to say the least

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« Reply #100 on: July 20, 2010, 08:09:13 am »
read the rest of his tweets...they're interesting to say the least

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« Reply #101 on: July 20, 2010, 06:10:32 pm »
From the Hooks, via Twitter:

Pitcher Tyler Lumsden was traded to the San Diego Padres today for future considerations. Dallas Keuchel has taken his spot on the roster.
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« Reply #102 on: July 20, 2010, 06:18:57 pm »
And in other Astros promotion news, 2008 48th round draft pick (#1433 overall) RHP Danny Meszaros has been promoted to Triple-A Round Rock!

Still trying to figure this one out:  how does a kid drafted in the 48th round in 2008 (Meszaros) end up being promoted to AAA in 2 seasons (after spending time in SS-A, Low-A and AA)? Was he that overlooked in college? Did he add a new pitch or two? Drop a pitch or two choosing to concentrate more on his better pitches?  Experience a big jump in velocity? Healthy for the first time in years and just now getting an opportunity to show the stuff he's always had? Did something just click?  Great story thusfar, just curious as to how it came about!
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« Reply #103 on: July 20, 2010, 06:31:22 pm »
Can't say for certain, but I do remember reading something about injuries holding him back in college.

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« Reply #104 on: July 20, 2010, 08:13:01 pm »
Can't say for certain, but I do remember reading something about injuries holding him back in college.

There's a rumor that there is a place to find that information.

In short: good arm, injury, long time to return to form, fear of injury at draft time...
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« Reply #105 on: July 20, 2010, 08:13:25 pm »
Still trying to figure this one out:  how does a kid drafted in the 48th round in 2008 (Meszaros) end up being promoted to AAA in 2 seasons (after spending time in SS-A, Low-A and AA)? Was he that overlooked in college? Did he add a new pitch or two? Drop a pitch or two choosing to concentrate more on his better pitches?  Experience a big jump in velocity? Healthy for the first time in years and just now getting an opportunity to show the stuff he's always had? Did something just click?  Great story thusfar, just curious as to how it came about!

Quality is not a surprise.  His good health is.
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« Reply #106 on: July 21, 2010, 09:55:42 am »
Quality is not a surprise.  His good health is.

He was a little shaky last night against New Orleans: 1.0 IP, 1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 3 BB, 1 K.
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« Reply #107 on: July 22, 2010, 01:14:55 am »
Lyles Ks 11, Gaston goes yard again in Hooks loss: LINK

Lyles: 6.2 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 11 SO, 1 HR, 3.18 ERA
Gaston: 1-3, HR, 2 RBI, BB, .248 AVG (last 10: 36 AB, 4 R, 13 H, 2B, 3B, 2 HR, 5 RBI, 4 BB, 5 SO, .361 AVG, .425 OBP, .611 SLG, 1.036 OPS)
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« Reply #108 on: July 22, 2010, 09:42:17 am »
Looking through the recaps, many of Martinez' outs are line drives. He seems to square up well in AA so far. Hopefully, he'll continue his progress and press the org. I wonder if the knees thing will allow him a try at first in the winter, or whether improving his outfield play is still the order of the day.

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« Reply #109 on: July 22, 2010, 08:44:47 pm »
SI on Koby: LINK (H/T Astros County)
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« Reply #110 on: July 22, 2010, 09:01:16 pm »
T.J. Steele perhaps out for the year: McTaggart LINK

Bennett also said speedy outfielder T.J. Steele...could be lost for the rest of the year. Steele was hitting .228 with two homers and 18 RBIs in 241 at-bats for Double-A Corpus Christi before he suffered a bone bruise in his left hand while swinging the bat. He's been out since July 5.  Steele had an MRI in Corpus Christi on Wednesday. "His wrist issue hasn't been resolving and he's got some tendinitis or something else going and there is a possibility he won't play for the rest of this season at this point," Bennett said.
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« Reply #111 on: July 22, 2010, 11:21:10 pm »
Hooks lose in 11, Clemens hits HR #22 on the year for sole possession of the Texas League HR record.  LINK

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« Reply #112 on: July 30, 2010, 01:15:29 pm »
Koby to the DL with right hamstring strain, per Levine tweet.

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« Reply #113 on: July 30, 2010, 10:15:04 pm »
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« Reply #114 on: July 30, 2010, 10:24:38 pm »
Begin his work as a pitcher?  Wow. Best of luck to him.

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« Reply #116 on: July 31, 2010, 11:32:27 pm »
Nice bounceback outing for Lyles tonight against Midland. 5.2 IP 6 H 1 R 1 ER 1 BB 8 K

Hooks win 3-2, but Lyles didn't factor into the decision as he left the game in the 6th with the Rockhounds leading 1-0. The lone run he allowed was on a solo shot to Val Majewski, the same guy who belted a grand slam off him the last time he faced Midland.

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« Reply #117 on: August 02, 2010, 10:13:08 am »
I was in Corpus for the games on Friday and Saturday night.  Some observations:


 
J.B. Shuck- His build is very similar to Biggio's when he was younger, but is not as athletic.  Very slappy.  Doesn't use much of his lower body in his swing.  Not a whole lot of action in OF for him. Was called up after the game.

J.D. Martinez - is getting chewed up by offspeed stuff.  He saw one fastball the entire night and lifted a lazy fly ball to left.  He is not athletic at all.  The only guy with less athleticism on the team is Jimmy Van Ostrand...and that's not a good thing.  He's very slender, but moves like a 15 year that is growing into his body.  I can see why there are concerns from a position standpoint.  He DH'd, so I didn't get to see him play the field, but watching his warmups, it was obvious that he isn't athletic.  He has a wrist flip in his load mechanism that will expose him to good fastballs.  If he quiets his hands during load, he might improve there.  He has to cheat, thus not being able to adjust to the off-speed stuff. 

Jon Gaston - is more athletic than I anticipated.  He played Center on Friday and played well except for one ball that he went back to the fence for and misplayed it.  It looked more like he was unaware of where the fence was and got a little gun-shy.  On Saturday, he played RF and looked much better out there.  Good range.  Decent arm.  As compared to Pence, he looked like he knew what he was doing out there.  I'd trust Gaston in RF more than Pence.  At the plate, he reminds me a lot of Blum.  Similar setup, but swings with more intent.  He has a bit of a loop in his swing.

Albert Cartwright (Sat) - Athletic, but a smaller guy.  Fast, but not a burner.  He looks a little raw in the field to me.  Not exactly smooth.  Seemed to be a little nervous in his first at bat (which is understandable). He had a bit of a dip in his stride that would concern me.  It was hard to form an opinion of him because you could tell he was a bit amped up/nervous.

Jordan Lyles (Sat) - Very athletic build.  I can see why he was offered scholarships as a WR.  During warmups/stretching, you can tell he has good body control.  He could handle an extra 20-25 lbs and be just fine.  Legs are athletic, but still a bit thin, same for upper body.  Arm speed reminds me of Roy Halladay.  It's not whippy and it doesn't make you say "man that's a quick arm".  Very easy delivery without a bunch of moving parts.  2-seamer was 90-91 touching 93.  Cutter was 88 consistently.  Slider/curve was 85-87.  He threw one loopy curve that was 79.  His change-up is filthy.  Consistently in the low 80s.  He made Adrian Cardenas (A's top ten prospect) look stupid 3 times on change ups. He was getting swings and misses easily with the change up. The homer he gave up was on a fastball that drifted over the middle of the plate.  The good thing to see was that he was angry (not overly) with himself about that pitch...shows me he is a competitor.  I think there could be more velocity there if he were to add a few pounds and be just a bit less firm on his front leg.  Pitches down in the zone consistently.

Though Clemens didn't play, he was all over the field chatting it up with teammates and keeping the mood light.  I can see how that would be a good thing if he turns out to be a bench player. 

There it is if any cares about my non-professional assessment.  It was fun nonetheless.

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« Reply #118 on: August 02, 2010, 10:38:26 am »
Thanks for the observations. 

So, no good curves from Lyles, just a loopy show pitch?  Wade mentioned that "some in the organization feel Lyles could compete now in the majors."  I don't doubt that he could, and maybe it might be best to challenge him, but I would think having a decent breaking pitch would greatly enhance his ability to keep hitters off balance.

Thanks for the observation on Martinez, as I have not heard much on him. 

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« Reply #119 on: August 02, 2010, 11:40:05 am »
I was in Corpus for the games on Friday and Saturday night.  Some observations:


 
J.B. Shuck- His build is very similar to Biggio's when he was younger, but is not as athletic.  Very slappy.  Doesn't use much of his lower body in his swing.  Not a whole lot of action in OF for him. Was called up after the game.

J.D. Martinez - is getting chewed up by offspeed stuff.  He saw one fastball the entire night and lifted a lazy fly ball to left.  He is not athletic at all.  The only guy with less athleticism on the team is Jimmy Van Ostrand...and that's not a good thing.  He's very slender, but moves like a 15 year that is growing into his body.  I can see why there are concerns from a position standpoint.  He DH'd, so I didn't get to see him play the field, but watching his warmups, it was obvious that he isn't athletic.  He has a wrist flip in his load mechanism that will expose him to good fastballs.  If he quiets his hands during load, he might improve there.  He has to cheat, thus not being able to adjust to the off-speed stuff. 

Jon Gaston - is more athletic than I anticipated.  He played Center on Friday and played well except for one ball that he went back to the fence for and misplayed it.  It looked more like he was unaware of where the fence was and got a little gun-shy.  On Saturday, he played RF and looked much better out there.  Good range.  Decent arm.  As compared to Pence, he looked like he knew what he was doing out there.  I'd trust Gaston in RF more than Pence.  At the plate, he reminds me a lot of Blum.  Similar setup, but swings with more intent.  He has a bit of a loop in his swing.

Albert Cartwright (Sat) - Athletic, but a smaller guy.  Fast, but not a burner.  He looks a little raw in the field to me.  Not exactly smooth.  Seemed to be a little nervous in his first at bat (which is understandable). He had a bit of a dip in his stride that would concern me.  It was hard to form an opinion of him because you could tell he was a bit amped up/nervous.

Jordan Lyles (Sat) - Very athletic build.  I can see why he was offered scholarships as a WR.  During warmups/stretching, you can tell he has good body control.  He could handle an extra 20-25 lbs and be just fine.  Legs are athletic, but still a bit thin, same for upper body.  Arm speed reminds me of Roy Halladay.  It's not whippy and it doesn't make you say "man that's a quick arm".  Very easy delivery without a bunch of moving parts.  2-seamer was 90-91 touching 93.  Cutter was 88 consistently.  Slider/curve was 85-87.  He threw one loopy curve that was 79.  His change-up is filthy.  Consistently in the low 80s.  He made Adrian Cardenas (A's top ten prospect) look stupid 3 times on change ups. He was getting swings and misses easily with the change up. The homer he gave up was on a fastball that drifted over the middle of the plate.  The good thing to see was that he was angry (not overly) with himself about that pitch...shows me he is a competitor.  I think there could be more velocity there if he were to add a few pounds and be just a bit less firm on his front leg.  Pitches down in the zone consistently.

Though Clemens didn't play, he was all over the field chatting it up with teammates and keeping the mood light.  I can see how that would be a good thing if he turns out to be a bench player. 

There it is if any cares about my non-professional assessment.  It was fun nonetheless.

Can you give some indication as to what you mean by athletic?  What recent major leaguers do you consider to appear athletic?  Not being an ass, just looking for a frame of reference.

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« Reply #120 on: August 02, 2010, 04:29:53 pm »
Can you give some indication as to what you mean by athletic?  What recent major leaguers do you consider to appear athletic?  Not being an ass, just looking for a frame of reference.

His motions aren't fluid.  His actions while running, stretching, etc was like watching a little kid run.  All of the parts weren't working together fluidly.  I would compare him slightly to the modern day Vladimir Guerrero.  It's just not pretty when he runs.  I am not talking about young Vlad.  I view athleticism as having fluid movements that don't seem forced.  He's all knees and elbows, and they don't seem to be going the same direction.  Not to mention, he was pretty slow.  However, he only put the ball in play once on a lazy fly ball, so I am sure I didn't see him at his top speed.

Don't get me wrong, he has a very quick bat, and I think if he fixes his load mechanism, he could be a solid hitter.  I just don't think he will be a very good outfielder at all and would lack the footwork to be a decent 1B.

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« Reply #121 on: August 02, 2010, 04:32:22 pm »
Thanks for the observations. 

So, no good curves from Lyles, just a loopy show pitch?  Wade mentioned that "some in the organization feel Lyles could compete now in the majors."  I don't doubt that he could, and maybe it might be best to challenge him, but I would think having a decent breaking pitch would greatly enhance his ability to keep hitters off balance.

Thanks for the observation on Martinez, as I have not heard much on him. 


When he was warming up in the bullpen, he was throwing a knuckle-curve (at least that was the grip he was using), but in the game it looked more like a slurvy slider.  The one loopy curve was a 1st pitch show me pitch in the 5th inning (i think).

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« Reply #122 on: August 02, 2010, 04:43:54 pm »
Oh, and my picks for athletic are the obvious ones: Crawford, Bourn, the Uptons, Hanley, but those are the uber athletics.

Pence is athletic, just doesn't know how to take a good route to a ball.  He's not pretty to watch, but you can tell there is some athleticism there.  David Wright is athletic, Mauer for a catcher is off the charts, Carlos Gonzales is a decent athlete, Dexter Fowler is up there as well.  Andrus and Escobar are off the charts... I could go on for while.  My point is that guys with more athleticism have a better chance to get the big leagues and be contributors.


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« Reply #123 on: August 04, 2010, 09:55:26 am »
Begin his work as a pitcher?  Wow. Best of luck to him.
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« Reply #124 on: August 10, 2010, 11:40:17 am »
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J.D. Martinez, OF, Astros (Double-A Corpus Christi): 3-for-5, 2B, HR (3), 2 R, 4 RBI, K. Maybe the Astros really have something in this guy; 14-for-26 in last seven games and .326/.404/.489 in 25 Texas League contests.

Considering their attitude towards all things Astros, that's practically orgasmic praise.
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« Reply #125 on: August 12, 2010, 01:21:55 am »
Hooks won 8-4 tonight, and have gone 19-10 since losing 16 straight to begin the second half.

Koby Clemens hit his 23rd HR of the season, and was a 3B short of the cycle (3-5, 2 R, 2B, HR, 4 RBI, SO).

JD Martinez went 4-5 (2 R, 2B, 2 RBI), raising his Double-A average to .351. Over the last 10 games, Martinez is 18-36, 10 R, 4 2B, 2 HR, 11 RBI, 6 BB, 5 SO, 1.359 OPS.  Since his call-up to Corpus, he is 34-97 (26G), 15 R, 34 H, 5 2B, 3B, 3 HR, 19 RBI, 50 TB, 11 BB, 20 SO.  If he had enough ABs to qualify, he'd be 1st in AVG (.351), 3rd in OBP (.422), 4th in SLG (.515) and 4th in OPS (.937) in the league. 
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« Reply #126 on: August 12, 2010, 07:43:17 am »
A few weeks back, it looked like he'd hit a wall at AA, but maybe it's just another place for him to dominate.

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« Reply #127 on: August 12, 2010, 12:05:24 pm »
Think we have found the replacement for Spaz since getting rid of Lee is only going to happen if he is given his unconditional release.

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« Reply #128 on: August 12, 2010, 01:10:47 pm »
Think we have found the replacement for Spaz since getting rid of Lee is only going to happen if he is given his unconditional release.

I think JD better not hold his breath if that's his goal.  Pence would be easier to get rid of, given his salary, and probably does have some trade value.  But, Pence has a number of factors that help him:  He's young and athletic (Wade's ideal player) and he's got the whole FOF (face of the franchise) thing going.  While JD has hit at every level, there are still some doubts about his MLB bat.  From what I've read, if you think Pence is an adventure in RF, you're not going to be impressed with Martinez.  I just don't see the club being that enamored with Martinez to get rid of their leader in HR, RBI, and Hits.  I'm not saying that to pump up Pence's ability, on most clubs he's not a leader in any of those categories, but he is valuable on this team.  Martinez just isn't a Heyward-type prospect that you make room for at the expense of a solid MLB player in his prime. 

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« Reply #129 on: August 12, 2010, 01:51:45 pm »
I think JD better not hold his breath if that's his goal.  Pence would be easier to get rid of, given his salary, and probably does have some trade value.  But, Pence has a number of factors that help him:  He's young and athletic (Wade's ideal player) and he's got the whole FOF (face of the franchise) thing going.  While JD has hit at every level, there are still some doubts about his MLB bat.  From what I've read, if you think Pence is an adventure in RF, you're not going to be impressed with Martinez.  I just don't see the club being that enamored with Martinez to get rid of their leader in HR, RBI, and Hits.  I'm not saying that to pump up Pence's ability, on most clubs he's not a leader in any of those categories, but he is valuable on this team.  Martinez just isn't a Heyward-type prospect that you make room for at the expense of a solid MLB player in his prime. 
Good points. It's too bad more clubs aren't willing to do prospect-for-prospect trades. With Wallace at 1B now, it would seem there will be no place for Clemens, even if he does somehow cut down on the K's and continue to put up the big power numbers. And now Martinez might fall into the same category. Perhaps Wade can trade them, down the line, for guys who better fit the Astros' needs, but it seems like most clubs aren't willing to trade away talented-but-blocked minor leaguers for the same.
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« Reply #130 on: August 12, 2010, 02:13:27 pm »
Good points. It's too bad more clubs aren't willing to do prospect-for-prospect trades. With Wallace at 1B now, it would seem there will be no place for Clemens, even if he does somehow cut down on the K's and continue to put up the big power numbers. And now Martinez might fall into the same category. Perhaps Wade can trade them, down the line, for guys who better fit the Astros' needs, but it seems like most clubs aren't willing to trade away talented-but-blocked minor leaguers for the same.

The Matt Garza/Delmon Young trade being one of the few exceptions, which has worked out for both sides.

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« Reply #131 on: August 12, 2010, 02:37:58 pm »
The Matt Garza/Delmon Young trade being one of the few exceptions, which has worked out for both sides.
Right, although they had both had some MLB experience/success. I suppose Gose-for-Wallace sort of qualifies.
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Just for thought:  If he continued to smoke at AA, and did the same at AAA, wouldn't the Astros be nuts to trade him before they find out what they have? 

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« Reply #133 on: August 12, 2010, 03:08:02 pm »
Just for thought:  If he continued to smoke at AA, and did the same at AAA, wouldn't the Astros be nuts to trade him before they find out what they have? 

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« Reply #134 on: August 12, 2010, 03:35:36 pm »
Yes, I can't counter the logic, as it makes perfect sense.  There just seems to be something different about people like him.  They just continue to exceed expectations.  They are consistently undervalued.  Therefore, it seems difficult to have any confidence that one is getting equal value in return.

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« Reply #135 on: August 24, 2010, 10:53:01 am »
probably old news, but I haven't seen it anywhere here

Astros will be in Corpus through 2016.

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« Reply #136 on: September 03, 2010, 07:45:18 am »
Looking(that better?) through the box scores I was dissappointed to not see Heath in the hit parade at Lexington.  But quickly surprised to see this line in the Hooks box score:

Heath C 4 0 3 0 0 0 2 1 1 .750

Kid must have a rocket strapped to his arse.  (or the Astros have very little catching depth)



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« Reply #137 on: September 03, 2010, 10:52:21 am »
Perusing through ...

Just in case you are wondering (and only because I'm bored ... I am not trying to play policeman here) ...

The "per" in "perusing" means "through" ... you can save a whole word there without affecting the meaning (or stepping on any bored grammarian's toes).
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« Reply #138 on: September 03, 2010, 11:06:17 am »
So 'perusing' means 'through using'?

Mr. Happy, are you perusing?
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« Reply #139 on: September 03, 2010, 11:41:24 am »
So 'perusing' means 'through using'?

Mr. Happy, are you perusing?
You could look it up in your OED, I suppose ... original derivation from Latin by way of Middle English and Old French (where things got a bit warped) ... "per" meaning through (in the sense of complete, not penetrate) and "use" from OF "user" (based on a variant form of the Latin root "ut-").  In ME it took on the more specific meaning of "read thoroughly" which has since been supplanted by a more casual interpretation something like "browsing through"  ...  not so much "thorough" in the sense of trying to catch every detail, but still with a sense of "completely through the material" at some level of detail.

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« Reply #140 on: September 03, 2010, 11:49:30 am »
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« Reply #141 on: September 03, 2010, 12:35:21 pm »
Kid must have a rocket strapped to his arse.  (or the Astros have very little catching depth)


Or maybe Santangelo went on the DL and they needed someone to backup Hernandez?
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« Reply #142 on: September 07, 2010, 10:36:30 am »
I went to the Hooks game on Sunday.  A few observations:

J.D. Martinez: in a previous post, i mentioned a wristy bat whip that bothered me.  He no longer does that.  He has gone to an almost Chuck Knoblauch type of load mechanism.  He didn't seemed to be getting fooled or blown away by fastballs, though Davis was only throwing in the 90-91 range consistently.  No hits, but this this time around he didn't looked completely overmatched.  I am convinced removing the bat whip in his load has made it easier for him to wait a little longer.  He played  RF, and it wasn't a thing of beauty.  He didn't muff any plays, but he looked a bit uncomfortable out there.  He did show a decent arm, however.

Shane Wolf- looked good.  I'd say he is a LOOGY in the making.  Good arm slot for a left reliever.  Breaking ball didn't bite real hard, but had enough to get the lefties out in front.  Pretty clean delivery.  My only complaint is that he brings his arm so far back that he gives the hitter a chance to see the ball and get their timing.  If he hides the ball a bit better (i.e. keep his hand behind his shoulder instead of bringing it nearly behind his back), he could be a very good lefty out of the bullpen. Though he brought the ball pretty far back, it didn't appear that he was scapular loading as he didn't really squeeze it back there. Fastball touched 91, but was consistently at 90.

Albert Cartwright - got carved up at the plate.  for as fast as he is, i wasn't impressed with his range at second.  It wasn't really a good night for him.

Polin Trinidad - This was the first time i had seen him...  I have trouble believing he ever makes it to the big leagues.  He only touched 86 with his fastball, but was consistently 84.  His arm angle doesn't give him an advantage over lefties as it's a little higher than I expected.  His curve/slider (not sure what he was throwing) broke way too early to be effective.  I just didn't see much to like.

Matt Nevarez - has a serious problem with slowing his delivery when he is throwing offspeed pitches.  You could tell the hitters were picking it up as they all laid off the offspeed stuff.  He only touched 93 once, but was consistently 91 with the FB.  He got better the longer he was out there, but the arm speed on his offspeed pitches as well as slowing his delivery would worry me going forward.

Jon Gaston - has much better range in the OF than you would guess. 


Everyone pretty much had a rough night as Davis took a no-no into the 8th.