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« on: July 21, 2009, 09:31:17 am »
About 6 weeks ago, I was playing softball on my beer league team.  The field was wet and muddy.  When I was running to first (on a ball that I smoked by the way) my cleats got stuck in the mud and I pulled the calf muscle in my left leg.  I barely made it to first.  Between innings, I stretched it out and tried massaging the muscle.  It felt a little better so I limped back into the field.  A couple of innings later, I tried batting and hurt myself again running to first.  My calf just couldn't handle going from standing still to a full sprint.  I took myself out of the game and decided to take off a couple weeks to try and heal. 

In the two weeks that followed, I saw a doctor who told me that the muscle was not torn, but that I pulled the muscle.  Following his instructions, I iced the muscle, heated the muscle, massaged the muscle, stretched the muscle, and did some very light jogs when I felt up to it.  I took pain killers for the pain and muscle relaxants to help.  Before the next game, I rubbed icy hot into the muscle, stretched, wore a neoprene sleeve over the muscle, took warmup runs at different speeds.  And I felt okay.  Well enough to play.  And, of course, the first time at bat, I pulled the calf muscle again. 

It has taken a full 6 weeks to feel almost back to normal.  I still can't run at full speed, but at least I don't hurt myself every time I run.

Watching Lance run to second on his double was painful for me because he pretty much looked about as well as I have looked over the past couple of weeks.  I know that Lance is tough.  I know that he is following the example set by Bagwell and Biggio.  I know that the Astros really need Lance right now if they are going to have any chance to make the playoffs.  I just don't know how his leg is going to get better if he keeps putting stress on the muscle.           
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2009, 09:38:12 am »
With all due respect...how old are you and how much do you weigh?

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2009, 09:45:16 am »
Andy.  With all due respect, I have run the NY Marathon, more than a dozen half marathons, more than 50 races between 5k and 10k, and I run about 25 miles a week.  I also do a significant amount of leg work in the gym every week.  My legs are in pretty good shape.  And Lance Berkman weighs more than I do.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 09:46:10 am »
Andy.  With all due respect, I have run the NY Marathon, more than a dozen half marathons, more than 50 races between 5k and 10k, and I run about 25 miles a week.  I also do a significant amount of leg work in the gym every week.  My legs are in pretty good shape.  And Lance Berkman weighs more than I do.

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 09:49:01 am »
Andy.  With all due respect, I have run the NY Marathon, more than a dozen half marathons, more than 50 races between 5k and 10k, and I run about 25 miles a week.  I also do a significant amount of leg work in the gym every week.  My legs are in pretty good shape.  And Lance Berkman weighs more than I do.

How often do you sprint? 

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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 09:51:19 am »
Because the questions are not really relevant.  But to answer Andy's questions, I am 40 and I weigh about 190 pounds.  Which makes me 7 years older than Lance and about 30 pounds lighter (using his official listed weight).
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2009, 09:52:29 am »
Andy.  With all due respect, I have run the NY Marathon, more than a dozen half marathons, more than 50 races between 5k and 10k, and I run about 25 miles a week.  I also do a significant amount of leg work in the gym every week.  My legs are in pretty good shape.  And Lance Berkman weighs more than I do.

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2009, 09:53:17 am »
How often do you sprint? 

I do interval training at least once a week -- sometimes twice.  For the uninformed, this means that I do sprints for a period of time (sometimes 2 minutes, sometimes 5 minutes) and then run at a much lesser speed for usually the same period as the sprint.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2009, 09:54:46 am »
Because the questions are not really relevant.  But to answer Andy's questions, I am 40 and I weigh about 190 pounds.  Which makes me 7 years old than Lance and about 30 pounds lighter (using his official listed weight).

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2009, 09:55:21 am »
Do you prefer onion or sesame bagels?  Ho-hos or ding-dongs?

Neither and neither.  I prefer poppy bagels and I don't eat hostess products -- I'm a Drakes man.  So I like Ring Dings.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2009, 09:55:33 am »
Do you prefer onion or sesame bagels?  Ho-hos or ding-dongs?

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2009, 09:56:59 am »
If the moon were made out of cheese, would you eat it?


We all know that isn't true... How bout this? If the moon were made of spare ribs, wouldya eat it?
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2009, 09:58:37 am »

We all know that isn't true... How bout this? If the moon were made of spare ribs, wouldya eat it?

Beef or pork?
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2009, 09:58:53 am »
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2009, 10:00:04 am »

We all know that isn't true... How bout this? If the moon were made of spare ribs, wouldya eat it?

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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2009, 10:01:41 am »
Damnit, I knew I had missed it.

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2009, 10:02:26 am »
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2009, 10:07:13 am »
Your call.

Well it's got to be beef because I can't eat pork for religious reasons.

I probably would eat the moon if it was made out of beef ribs.  But I would like it more if it was made out of brisket.
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2009, 10:08:18 am »
Well it's got to be beef because I can't eat pork for religious reasons.

I probably would eat the moon if it was made out of beef ribs.  But I would like it more if it was made out of brisket.

Slow smoked with mesquite or fast cooked with pecan?

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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2009, 10:09:11 am »
Slow smoked with mesquite or fast cooked with pecan?

I'll take slow cooked virtually every time.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2009, 10:09:45 am »
Slow smoked with mesquite or fast cooked with charcoal and steam?
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2009, 10:10:29 am »
Well it's got to be beef because I can't eat pork for religious reasons.

I probably would eat the moon if it was made out of beef ribs.  But I would like it more if it was made out of brisket.

Actual brisket, or that pot roast the folks of the Jewish faith claim to be brisket?

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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2009, 10:18:08 am »
Well it's got to be beef because I can't eat pork for religious reasons.

I probably would eat the moon if it was made out of beef ribs.  But I would like it more if it was made out of brisket.

One of the things that keeps me from converting is the pork spare ribs thing.  I just can't get past that.

I guess I can't be Muslim now, either.  Even if I could find some way to abstain from pork, oysters on the half shell would be looming just ahead.

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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2009, 10:19:37 am »
Actual brisket, or that pot roast the folks of the Jewish faith claim to be brisket?

Well I like both.  But I understood that what we were talking about was smoked brisket.
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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2009, 10:21:31 am »
One of the things that keeps me from converting is the pork spare ribs thing.  I just can't get past that.

I guess I can't be Muslim now, either.  Even if I could find some way to abstain from pork, oysters on the half shell would be looming just ahead.

And scrimps.  Other than pork and Jesus, Catholic = Jewish.

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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2009, 10:21:42 am »
One of the things that keeps me from converting is the pork spare ribs thing.  I just can't get past that.

I guess I can't be Muslim now, either.  Even if I could find some way to abstain from pork, oysters on the half shell would be looming just ahead.

Yeah.  The pork thing is pretty tough.  I think that if I was not observant, I would probably eat bacon all day long.

A couple of years ago, they actually found a species of pork in Australia that had split hooves and chewed its cud (the two requirements for kosher animals) and the rabbis said that you still can't eat it because there isn't a Jewish tradition of how to slaugher such an animal in a kosher fashion.
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« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2009, 10:23:04 am »
And scrimps.  Other than pork and Jesus, Catholic = Jewish.

Catholics aren't supposed to eat shellfish? That's news to me.
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« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2009, 10:24:23 am »
Catholics aren't supposed to eat shellfish? That's news to me.
I was wondering the same thing.  Maybe I missed that day in CCD or something...

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« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2009, 10:25:00 am »
Catholics aren't supposed to eat shellfish? That's news to me.

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« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2009, 10:25:03 am »
Catholics aren't supposed to eat shellfish? That's news to me.

To me as well.
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« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2009, 10:25:29 am »
I was pretty sure I was going to hell, now I know I am.

You've missed out on the true beauty of being Catholic.  Just go to confession, it's all good.
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« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2009, 10:26:03 am »
You've missed out on the true beauty of being Catholic.  Just go to confession reconciliation, it's all good.

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« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2009, 10:26:07 am »
I was wondering the same thing.  Maybe I missed that day in CCD or something...

And then there's that whole mixing meat with dairy thing.  I didn't realize all those Italians were supposed to decline the parmesan with their spaghetti and meatballs.

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« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2009, 10:27:31 am »
You've missed out on the true beauty of being Catholic.  Just go to confession, it's all good.

I haven't missed it.  Maybe it's a matter of confession/reconciliation not being enough.
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« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2009, 10:28:06 am »
I haven't missed it.  Maybe it's a matter of confession/reconciliation not being enough.

Unless shellfish falls under "gluttony", I think we're OK.
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« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2009, 10:28:55 am »
Catholics aren't supposed to eat shellfish? That's news to me.

I think the shrimp was a reference to my Muslim post.  I am aware of no dietetic restrictions on papists (other than abstaining/fasting on Fridays, and before the Eucharist.)  If there are any, I am probably in trouble.

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« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2009, 10:30:16 am »
I think the shrimp was a reference to my Muslim post.  I am aware of no dietetic restrictions on papists (other than abstaining/fasting on Fridays, and before the Eucharist.)  If there are any, I am probably in trouble.

I guess so.  It was the "Other than pork and Jesus, Catholic = Jewish." part that threw me off.
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« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2009, 10:31:01 am »
And then there's that whole mixing meat with dairy thing.  I didn't realize all those Italians were supposed to decline the parmesan with their spaghetti and meatballs.



St. Paul says directly that Christians can ignore the dietary laws of the Old Testament, which is where all that comes from.

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« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2009, 10:31:15 am »
Catholics aren't supposed to eat shellfish? That's news to me.

Yes.  You should all base your understanding of the theology of the Roman Catholic Church on my stupid statement.  It was 100% factual. Question anything you've heard to the contrary.

Further...

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« Reply #39 on: July 21, 2009, 10:31:23 am »
I think the shrimp was a reference to my Muslim post.  I am aware of no dietetic restrictions on papists (other than abstaining/fasting on Fridays, and before the Eucharist.)  If there are any, I am probably in trouble.

I believe this is the only board in existence where a thread about pulling a calf muscle can devolve into a discussion of dietetic restrictions on papists.  At least this quickly.

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« Reply #40 on: July 21, 2009, 10:31:37 am »
This is exactly why I'm Episcopalian – the brochure said I can do pretty much whatever I want.
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« Reply #41 on: July 21, 2009, 10:32:31 am »
This is exactly why I'm Episcopalian – the brochure said I can do pretty much whatever I want.

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« Reply #42 on: July 21, 2009, 10:32:36 am »
This is exactly why I'm Episcopalian – the brochure said I can do pretty much whatever I want.

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« Reply #43 on: July 21, 2009, 10:32:44 am »
I guess so.  It was the "Other than pork and Jesus, Catholic = Jewish." part that threw me off.

OK, I see what you are saying.

Let me state emphatically, Catholics can eat shellfish.  If not, I am converting to Druidism.

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« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2009, 10:32:52 am »
Yes.  You should all base your understanding of the theology of the Roman Catholic Church on my stupid statement.  It was 100% factual. Question anything you've heard to the contrary.

Further...

Jesus was absolutely born in December.
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Bullshit.  I read The Da Vinci Code.
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« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2009, 10:34:40 am »
As a Baptist, we were allowed to do everything except, have sex, drink, dance, play cards and "mixed bathing".  You could stuff yourself with whatever you wanted and play dominos 'till four o'clock in the morning. 
The rules of distinction were thrown out with the baseball cap.  It does not lend itself to protocol.  It is found today on youth in homes, classrooms, even in fine restaurants.  Regardless of its other consequences, this is a breach against civility.  A civilized man should avoid this mania.

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« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2009, 10:34:52 am »
This is exactly why I'm Episcopalian – the brochure said I can do pretty much whatever I want.

I was married in an Episcopalian church.  Because I am that asshole, the pastor and I would get into Theological discussion about the Anglicans v Catholics.  I claimed victory when I got him to say that his church was really Catholic Lite.

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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2009, 10:35:56 am »
Jesus gave chocolate eggs to children at the time of his death.

Well, to be fair, leaving trails of blood in the back yard for the kids to go find Jesus was a game that only Mel Gibson's kids enjoyed.
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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2009, 10:43:28 am »
I think the shrimp was a reference to my Muslim post.  I am aware of no dietetic restrictions on papists (other than abstaining/fasting on Fridays, and before the Eucharist.)  If there are any, I am probably in trouble.

No restrictions on shellfish in the Muslim faith.  But no carniverous animals, that means aligators are out.

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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2009, 10:45:00 am »
This is exactly why I'm Episcopalian – the brochure said I can do pretty much whatever I want.

I have a friend who converted from Catholic to Episcopalean after he got married.  His wife's family was big in the Episcopal chuch, and he wasn't all that great a Catholic anyway, so. . . the Mass and everything seemed pretty much the same, so he figured he was okay.

He is the sort of person who eventually rises to near the top of whatever organization he is involved in, and he is now on the governing board or whatever they call it at his church, a large main-line church, fairly conservative (for Anglicans) from what I gather.  A year or two ago, there arose a great controversy around their pastor, something about some list of books he had endorsed somewhere way back in the past, the books were liberal/progressive concerning Anglican theology, I didn't get all of it.  Anyway, the result was abput half the congregation wanted to run this guy off, the other half wanted to keep him.  It was in some instances a bitter split, friends quit talking to friends, etc.

My friend was stuck right in the middle of all this.  He tried to maintain his neutrality, or stay above it all, but he constantly had 'influential' (rich) parishioners from both sides showing up at his place of business during the day to discuss it, he couldn't get any work done.  He was telling me his tale of woe one evening in a bar, and I laughed and said, "See. You should've stayed Catholic."

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« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2009, 10:45:43 am »
I was married in an Episcopalian church.  Because I am that asshole, the pastor and I would get into Theological discussion about the Anglicans v Catholics.  I claimed victory when I got him to say that his church was really Catholic Lite.

All of the circumstance, half the guilt.

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« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2009, 10:50:23 am »
No restrictions on shellfish in the Muslim faith.  But no carniverous animals, that means aligators are out.


While shellfish in general are not out, an animal cannot be killed by boiling or steaming, they must be ritually killed and bloodlet prior to cooking.  So I'm not sure how you get around steamed clams.
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« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2009, 10:54:57 am »

While shellfish in general are not out, an animal cannot be killed by boiling or steaming, they must be ritually killed and bloodlet prior to cooking.  So I'm not sure how you get around steamed clams.

"Animals for food may not be killed by being boiled or electrocuted, and the carcass should be hung upside down for long enough to be blood-free. Different rules apply to fish; for instance, fish with scales are always halāl, while it has been debated whether shellfish and scaleless fishes, such as catfish, are halāl, haram or makruh (prohibitively disliked)."

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« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2009, 10:56:23 am »
"Animals for food may not be killed by being boiled or electrocuted, and the carcass should be hung upside down for long enough to be blood-free. Different rules apply to fish; for instance, fish with scales are always halāl, while it has been debated whether shellfish and scaleless fishes, such as catfish, are halāl, haram or makruh (prohibitively disliked)."

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So what does that mean?  Can Muslims eat boiled crawfish or not?
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« Reply #54 on: July 21, 2009, 10:56:58 am »

So what does that mean?

Uhh... there's debate over the steamed clam?  

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« Reply #55 on: July 21, 2009, 10:57:06 am »

So what does that mean?

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« Reply #56 on: July 21, 2009, 10:57:34 am »
Uhh... there's debate? 




I won't stand for it.  It's either black or white, I tell ya.
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« Reply #57 on: July 21, 2009, 10:57:53 am »
i love how this thread has evolved.
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« Reply #58 on: July 21, 2009, 10:58:33 am »
i love how this thread has evolved.

Fucking evolutionists.  This thread was intelligently designed.
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« Reply #59 on: July 21, 2009, 10:59:13 am »

I won't stand for it.  It's either black or white, I tell ya.

I'll pick a muslim and we'll eat boiled crawfish together.  You pick a muslim and y'all can yell at me and my muslim while we eat boiled crawfish together.
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« Reply #60 on: July 21, 2009, 11:00:40 am »
Fucking evolutionists.  This thread was intelligently designed.

it may have been designed but not intelligently.
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« Reply #61 on: July 21, 2009, 11:01:08 am »
i love how this thread has evolved.

"Theoretically"
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« Reply #62 on: July 21, 2009, 11:04:30 am »
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« Reply #63 on: July 21, 2009, 11:05:04 am »
"Theoretically"

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« Reply #64 on: July 21, 2009, 11:07:44 am »
Do Dinosaurs have to keep kosher?

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« Reply #65 on: July 21, 2009, 11:08:39 am »
No restrictions on shellfish in the Muslim faith.  But no carniverous animals, that means aligators are out.

I worked for a place a few years, just after I'd got out of school, that supplied food and sundry items, hardware, etc., to offshore rigs and ships.  I was a ship chandler, the guy who met the ships when they arrived at port to solicit their orders, or went out to the rigs.  The result is a million stories I could tell about those days, plus since then Lord Jim has always been one of my favorite novels.

Anyway, one of our clients was Mobil Marine, their international fleet, which ran lightering tankers up the Neches River from Point X out in the Gulf, to their refinery here.  The officers were always German or English, the crews mostly Indian Muslims.  We had specific instructions on some of the food items, the sheep and chickens had to be 'Mohammedan killed' (MK), in other words bled from the jugular.  An imam was to oversee this, and bless the meat before we shipped it.  Only, I didn't know any imams, and our operations guy made a perfunctory attempt to locate one, or any slaughterhouse in the area who would do this sort of thing for a decent price.  He found neither.  So we ended up just sending them the same stuff we sent everyone else.

This was the early 1980's, not too long after the Iran hostage thing, and most people around here didn't know much about Islam, and what they knew wasn't necessarily to their liking.  Even so, I felt kind of bad about sending these guys officially unblessed and, for all I knew, tainted meat.  They had trusted me, and it was their religion, after all.  I guess our operations manager felt a pang of guilt, too.  One day, in a solemn ceremony on the loading dock, he appointed me an imam (on what authority, I am not sure.)  I was directed to compose a short prayer to bless the animals with.  After that, every time a shipment was going out, I would be called to the shipping dock, and as the warehouse guys stood and shuffled solemnly, I would bless the meat, then pull down the truck door and lock and seal it, and send it on its way.

We used to laugh about it at the time, but I still sometimes wonder if there were a lot of guys trapped in the Muslim version of purgatory, if they have one, all because of our contretemps with their food orders.

I hope not.  That is a pretty heavy metaphysical debt, and I don't know that I have done enough on the positive side over the years to balance it out.

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« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2009, 11:10:00 am »
Meanwhile the Chinese are looking at this and thinking, Sweet Confucius, what a bunch of fucking idiots.


Wouldn't that be Sweet and Sour Confucius?
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« Reply #68 on: July 21, 2009, 11:10:40 am »

Wouldn't that be Sweet and Sour Confucius?


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« Reply #69 on: July 21, 2009, 11:18:13 am »
We used to laugh about it at the time, but I still sometimes wonder if there were a lot of guys trapped in the Muslim version of purgatory, if they have one, all because of our contretemps with their food orders.

I hope not.  That is a pretty heavy metaphysical debt, and I don't know that I have done enough on the positive side over the years to balance it out.

That's a top notch story.  Now, to ease your pain, as a muslim, I will tell you that if they were told it was Halal(ok for them to eat) then whether it was or wasn't doesn't matter, their intention was to eat Halal meat, they won't be punished for eating whatever meat you took them.  Also, meat of the Christians and Jews(that's the Quranic wording of it) is ok for Muslims to eat, many Muslims throughout the world take that to mean pretty much all meat is ok for them(this doesn't include the other white meat), some still prefer the meat be killed specifically according to Muslim tradition.
As for shellfish, according to stories of the Prophet Muhammad, he didn't like shellfish, that is where many people come up with the notion that shellfish are not ok to eat.  But, by religious practice, shellfish is fine to eat, there is no blood letting for fish so the whole steamed clams thing doesn't matter.

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« Reply #70 on: July 21, 2009, 11:20:15 am »
I worked for a place a few years, just after I'd got out of school, that supplied food and sundry items, hardware, etc., to offshore rigs and ships.  I was a ship chandler, the guy who met the ships when they arrived at port to solicit their orders, or went out to the rigs.  The result is a million stories I could tell about those days, plus since then Lord Jim has always been one of my favorite novels.

Anyway, one of our clients was Mobil Marine, their international fleet, which ran lightering tankers up the Neches River from Point X out in the Gulf, to their refinery here.  The officers were always German or English, the crews mostly Indian Muslims.  We had specific instructions on some of the food items, the sheep and chickens had to be 'Mohammedan killed' (MK), in other words bled from the jugular.  An imam was to oversee this, and bless the meat before we shipped it.  Only, I didn't know any imams, and our operations guy made a perfunctory attempt to locate one, or any slaughterhouse in the area who would do this sort of thing for a decent price.  He found neither.  So we ended up just sending them the same stuff we sent everyone else.

This was the early 1980's, not too long after the Iran hostage thing, and most people around here didn't know much about Islam, and what they knew wasn't necessarily to their liking.  Even so, I felt kind of bad about sending these guys officially unblessed and, for all I knew, tainted meat.  They had trusted me, and it was their religion, after all.  I guess our operations manager felt a pang of guilt, too.  One day, in a solemn ceremony on the loading dock, he appointed me an imam (on what authority, I am not sure.)  I was directed to compose a short prayer to bless the animals with.  After that, every time a shipment was going out, I would be called to the shipping dock, and as the warehouse guys stood and shuffled solemnly, I would bless the meat, then pull down the truck door and lock and seal it, and send it on its way.

We used to laugh about it at the time, but I still sometimes wonder if there were a lot of guys trapped in the Muslim version of purgatory, if they have one, all because of our contretemps with their food orders.

I hope not.  That is a pretty heavy metaphysical debt, and I don't know that I have done enough on the positive side over the years to balance it out.

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« Reply #71 on: July 21, 2009, 11:21:52 am »
Just testing a theory – do you have a beard, and look like a latino Ernest Hemingway? Do you not always drink beer? When you do, what is your preferred brand?

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« Reply #72 on: July 21, 2009, 11:24:35 am »
That's a top notch story.  Now, to ease your pain, as a muslim, I will tell you that if they were told it was Halal(ok for them to eat) then whether it was or wasn't doesn't matter, their intention was to eat Halal meat, they won't be punished for eating whatever meat you took them.  Also, meat of the Christians and Jews(that's the Quranic wording of it) is ok for Muslims to eat, many Muslims throughout the world take that to mean pretty much all meat is ok for them(this doesn't include the other white meat), some still prefer the meat be killed specifically according to Muslim tradition.
As for shellfish, according to stories of the Prophet Muhammad, he didn't like shellfish, that is where many people come up with the notion that shellfish are not ok to eat.  But, by religious practice, shellfish is fine to eat, there is no blood letting for fish so the whole steamed clams thing doesn't matter.
Just for my education - what would the opposite of halal be?
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« Reply #73 on: July 21, 2009, 11:30:10 am »
Just for my education - what would the opposite of halal be?

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« Reply #74 on: July 21, 2009, 11:32:37 am »
Just for my education - what would the opposite of halal be?

Haram. 

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« Reply #75 on: July 21, 2009, 11:40:35 am »
Haram.  

What is the difference between Haram and Makruh?  

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« Reply #76 on: July 21, 2009, 11:45:43 am »
What is the difference between Haram and Makruh?  

ETR: incredibly non-contextual cut and paste

Makruh is not expressly prohibited but it is disliked(I believe the arabic translates to 'hated').  These are things we should avoid but are not prohibited to us.

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« Reply #77 on: July 21, 2009, 11:49:38 am »
Just testing a theory – do you have a beard, and look like a latino Ernest Hemingway? Do you not always drink beer? When you do, what is your preferred brand?



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« Reply #78 on: July 21, 2009, 11:53:22 am »
I don't generally take questions from the press. XX

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« Reply #79 on: July 21, 2009, 11:56:15 am »
That's a top notch story.  Now, to ease your pain, as a muslim, I will tell you that if they were told it was Halal(ok for them to eat) then whether it was or wasn't doesn't matter, their intention was to eat Halal meat, they won't be punished for eating whatever meat you took them.  Also, meat of the Christians and Jews(that's the Quranic wording of it) is ok for Muslims to eat, many Muslims throughout the world take that to mean pretty much all meat is ok for them(this doesn't include the other white meat), some still prefer the meat be killed specifically according to Muslim tradition.
As for shellfish, according to stories of the Prophet Muhammad, he didn't like shellfish, that is where many people come up with the notion that shellfish are not ok to eat.  But, by religious practice, shellfish is fine to eat, there is no blood letting for fish so the whole steamed clams thing doesn't matter.

In one instance, a crewman died at sea under unclear circumstances.  As I recall, he was found at the bottom of a stairwell with a broken neck, and it was not known whether he'd fallen, or had been pushed.  The ship was four or five days out from port.  I don't know if the captain did it on his own authority, or was instructed to, but just to show someone higher up's insensitivity to the Muslim crew, they were instructed to take the dead guy, wrap him up, and put him in the meat locker for the rest of the trip, with the consumables.

Even as a non-Muslim, I thnk that would have bothered me.  On that ship, they damn near had a mutiny.

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« Reply #80 on: July 21, 2009, 11:59:38 am »
In one instance, a crewman died at sea under unclear circumstances.  As I recall, he was found at the bottom of a stairwell with a broken neck, and it was not known whether he'd fallen, or had been pushed.  The ship was four or five days out from port.  I don't know if the captain did it on his own authority, or was instructed to, but just to show someone higher up's insensitivity to the Muslim crew, they were instructed to take the dead guy, wrap him up, and put him in the meat locker for the rest of the trip, with the consumables.

Even as a non-Muslim, I thnk that would have bothered me.  On that ship, they damn near had a mutiny.

What would you have done?  Put the body out to sea?  The crewmen would have flipped their shit with that b/c you have to bury a Muslim body, and preferably within the first 24 hours or so after death.  So either way they would have been pissed.  The only thing to do would have been to ask them what they wanted to do with the body. 

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« Reply #81 on: July 21, 2009, 12:00:50 pm »
it may have been designed but not intelligently.

As the designer of this thread, I take offense.
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« Reply #82 on: July 21, 2009, 12:02:18 pm »
As the designer of this thread, I take offense.


Is where you really intended to go...whether or not dead Muslims can be kept in a meat locker for days while out at sea?  Really now?
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« Reply #83 on: July 21, 2009, 12:05:11 pm »
Can Muslims eat calf muscles?

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« Reply #84 on: July 21, 2009, 12:06:40 pm »
Can Muslims eat calf muscles?

And lamb. That's about it as far as I can tell.
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« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2009, 12:07:24 pm »
Can Muslims eat calf muscles?

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« Reply #86 on: July 21, 2009, 12:12:18 pm »
And lamb. That's about it as far as I can tell.

Shit, you should see my fridge, all I have in it are a bunch of Lance Berkmans and goats.  No veggies in this house.

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« Reply #87 on: July 21, 2009, 12:20:40 pm »
What would you have done?  Put the body out to sea?  The crewmen would have flipped their shit with that b/c you have to bury a Muslim body, and preferably within the first 24 hours or so after death.  So either way they would have been pissed.  The only thing to do would have been to ask them what they wanted to do with the body. 

Yeah, that is where the insensitivity came in.  At least some of the Muslims in the crew, in accordance with their faith, were likely to be more concerned than most about what happened to their food before they ate it.  Not only that, so would most anyone else, when it comes to a dead body being in there.  But instead of discussing his options with his staff or the crew or soliciting input, the captain ordered them to put the dead guy in the locker with the meat.  That is where the trouble started.  And I'd forgot, but I think there were concerns, in a religious sense, about how long before the guy could be interred.

Why Mobil didn't just send out a helicopter or something, I don't know.  I cannot remember all the specifics.  Anyway, I don't know as much about your religion as I probably should, obviously; it is not my intention to step on anyone's toes in that department, although I did kind of slag on the Druids earlier.  If I did offend, my apologies.

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« Reply #88 on: July 21, 2009, 12:21:29 pm »

Is where you really intended to go...whether or not dead Muslims can be kept in a meat locker for days while out at sea?  Really now?

I think Mr the Bod has his answer:  what he needs is a halal butcher.  Becuase if you can't find one, someone will deputize an iman and you'll end up with bodies in your freezer, which you don't want.  If you're Catholic, you'd need to go to confession, and if you're JackAstro, you'll feel great about yourself.  Or, just maybe, not sprinting in mud would be a good thing.

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« Reply #89 on: July 21, 2009, 12:24:03 pm »
As an addendum to my previous post, I should disclose if you are Wiccan, I am probably going to laugh a bit.  But I won't do it to your face, promise.

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« Reply #90 on: July 21, 2009, 12:25:57 pm »
As an addendum to my previous post, I should disclose if you are Wiccan, I am probably going to laugh a bit.  But I won't do it to your face, promise.


We actually find the term "Wiccan" insulting, thank you.

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« Reply #91 on: July 21, 2009, 12:26:32 pm »
As an addendum to my previous post, I should disclose if you are Wiccan, I am probably going to laugh a bit.  But I won't do it to your face, promise.

Unless you're female and hot, because he actually kind of digs that.
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« Reply #92 on: July 21, 2009, 12:43:28 pm »
Unless you're female and hot, because he actually kind of digs that.

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« Reply #93 on: July 21, 2009, 12:46:56 pm »
Because the questions are not really relevant.  But to answer Andy's questions, I am 40 and I weigh about 190 pounds.  Which makes me 7 years older than Lance and about 30 pounds lighter (using his official listed weight).

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« Reply #94 on: July 21, 2009, 12:53:11 pm »

We actually find the term "Wiccan" insulting, thank you.

What about the Wiccans who refer to themselves as Wiccans?  Or are the just reclaiming the "W-word"?

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« Reply #95 on: July 21, 2009, 01:10:06 pm »
Tuning in a little late (and how the fuck did I miss this thread of all threads), I believe Episcopalian is a derivative of the Church of England, which is simply Catholicism without the Pope, guilt, celibacy or food fetishes.  King James also translated the bible into English from its original Aramaic Latin, which was nice of him considering he was Scottish.
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« Reply #96 on: July 21, 2009, 01:13:58 pm »
Tuning in a little late (and how the fuck did I miss this thread of all threads), I believe Episcopalian is a derivative of the Church of England, which is simply Catholicism without the Pope, guilt, celibacy or food fetishes.  King James also translated the bible into English from its original Aramaic Latin, which was nice of him considering he was Scottish.

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« Reply #97 on: July 21, 2009, 01:20:12 pm »
Tuning in a little late (and how the fuck did I miss this thread of all threads), I believe Episcopalian is a derivative of the Church of England, which is simply Catholicism without the Pope, guilt, celibacy or food fetishes.  King James also translated the bible into English from its original Aramaic Latin, which was nice of him considering he was Scottish.

Original Latin? You mean translated into English from the Latin translation of the original?
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« Reply #98 on: July 21, 2009, 01:31:14 pm »
Original Latin? You mean translated into English from the Latin translation of the original?

Wasn't the New Testament written in Aramaic?

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« Reply #99 on: July 21, 2009, 01:41:37 pm »
Wasn't the New Testament written in Aramaic?

What does Brown have to say about this?

I think the Old Testament was Hebrew and Aramaic, and New Testament was Greek. But I'm not much of a biblical scholar, surprisingly enough.
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« Reply #100 on: July 21, 2009, 01:41:44 pm »
Wasn't the New Testament written in Aramaic?

What does Brown have to say about this?

Good idea, let's ask Bill Brown (and JD while we're at it!)

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« Reply #101 on: July 21, 2009, 01:42:46 pm »
I think the Old Testament was Hebrew and Aramaic, and New Testament was Greek. But I'm not much of a biblical scholar, surprisingly enough.

I think it is Old Testament Hebrew and New Testament Aramaic and Greek.  But I'm in the same boat in terms of scholarly acumen.

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« Reply #102 on: July 21, 2009, 01:43:20 pm »
But I'm not much of a biblical scholar, surprisingly enough.

Those Benedictine monks were too scared of what you would do to their illuminations.  And they had no clue what Photoshop was.
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« Reply #103 on: July 21, 2009, 01:48:59 pm »
Those Benedictine monks were too scared of what you would do to their illuminations.  And they had no clue what Photoshop was.

Interesting thought.  Those monks who painstakingly created Bibles into works of amazing art would have loved Photoshop.  Some of the work I get a chance to review every now and again (and offer critique) humbles me by the great talent out there who can do so much with so little.  Oh, and on an entirely different note, if you have not caught the National Geographic show on "Satan's Bible" (and no, it's not about Antoine LeVey - sp?), you've missed one heck of a show.  Just the shear workmanship to create a Bible with all the ornate imagery is awesome to view.

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« Reply #104 on: July 21, 2009, 01:53:53 pm »
I think it is Old Testament Hebrew and New Testament Aramaic and Greek.  But I'm in the same boat in terms of scholarly acumen.
I believe the gospel of Matthew is the only one thought to have been written in Aramaic, the rest of the books in Greek.  Not a scholar either, or particularly religious, but the history of religion and belief is one of my favorite subjects.  I'm a pretty dull guy.

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« Reply #105 on: July 21, 2009, 01:57:43 pm »
I believe the gospel of Matthew is the only one thought to have been written in Aramaic, the rest of the books in Greek.  Not a scholar either, or particularly religious, but the history of religion and belief is one of my favorite subjects.  I'm a pretty dull guy.

I actually have similar interest and I don't consider it dull, although I will admit that the subject matter probably would not go over very well at a Starbucks meeting with friends.  "Hey, have I ever told you about the Hittites?"

BTW - I would make sense that Matthew was written in Aramaic given it's intended audience.

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« Reply #106 on: July 21, 2009, 01:58:45 pm »
Has anyone asked Craig Way?
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« Reply #107 on: July 21, 2009, 02:00:37 pm »
Has anyone asked Craig Way?

Which reminds me, I have to pen my newest "Glad You Asked" contribution.  If for no other reason than to get rid of my blowhardiness in a safe environment where no one can get harmed.

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« Reply #108 on: July 21, 2009, 02:16:07 pm »
I think it is interesting/funny/nice/telling/not of any consequence whatsoever that we have a regular SNS poster in this thread who knows more about Islam than apparently any of the rest of us are about the Bible.

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« Reply #109 on: July 21, 2009, 02:57:15 pm »
What about the Wiccans who refer to themselves as Wiccans?  Or are the just reclaiming the "W-word"?

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« Reply #110 on: July 21, 2009, 03:18:29 pm »
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« Reply #111 on: July 21, 2009, 03:58:30 pm »

Is where you really intended to go...whether or not dead Muslims can be kept in a meat locker for days while out at sea?  Really now?

Let me ask you a question. When you came pulling in here, did you notice a sign out in front of this thread that said Dead Muslim Storage?
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« Reply #112 on: July 21, 2009, 04:28:01 pm »
I know that there's Kosher wine, but can there be Kosher beer?
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« Reply #113 on: July 21, 2009, 04:33:41 pm »
I know that there's Kosher wine, but can there be Kosher beer?

You bet there is.  He'Brew... The chosen beer!
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« Reply #114 on: July 21, 2009, 04:38:31 pm »
You bet there is.  He'Brew... The chosen beer!

Isn't Schmaltz duck fat?  I bet that stuff could heal a pulled calf muscle
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« Reply #115 on: July 21, 2009, 05:29:29 pm »
Isn't Schmaltz duck fat?  I bet that stuff could heal a pulled calf muscle

Schmaltz is any type of fat, although typically it refers to the fat of chickens or other poultry. 

Most beer is kosher and don't require certification.  Some beers have taken the extra step of getting certification so that they can advertise the fact that they are kosher (Coors was the first).  Wine and many other spirits (particularly those that have wine in them like cognac or brandy) require certification.
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« Reply #116 on: July 21, 2009, 05:39:10 pm »
To bring this full circle, here's the latest on Berkman.

First...

alysonfooter:  Astros lineup: Bourn, Tejada, Puma, Lee, Blum, Pence, Matsui, Quintero, Wandy.

and...

alysonfooter:  Puma playing tonight signals a clean MRI, which is good news...

but then, twenty minutes later...

alysonfooter:  puma out 2 to 3 days with strain. Available to pinch hit.

alysonfooter:  Strain is categorized as grade 2.
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« Reply #117 on: July 21, 2009, 05:57:50 pm »
Taggs (because it's what the cool kids would call him) reports the following:

Berkman not happy about wearing protective boot: "I might put the boot on with my uniform and come limping out for pinch-hit appearances."

BTW - sometimes Greg Lucas says some really strange and funny things in his tweets, I guess to see if anyone is reading:

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« Reply #118 on: July 21, 2009, 06:07:11 pm »
I think Milo Hamilton needs to get out more...or I need to wear a sign. Four more people yelled "Hi Milo" when I walked past today - GL


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« Reply #119 on: July 21, 2009, 06:23:10 pm »
I think Milo Hamilton needs to get out more...or I need to wear a sign. Four more people yelled "Hi Milo" when I walked past today - GL

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« Reply #120 on: July 21, 2009, 06:26:36 pm »
Schmaltz is any type of fat, although typically it refers to the fat of chickens or other poultry. 

Most beer is kosher and don't require certification.  Some beers have taken the extra step of getting certification so that they can advertise the fact that they are kosher (Coors was the first).  .  .

Now that's ironic.

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« Reply #121 on: July 22, 2009, 07:35:22 am »
Now that's ironic.

I wouldn't so call it ironic.  I would call it a problem.

In the Jewish very orthodox world, people seem to be taking upon themselves restrictions that don't exist.  This is part of it.  Recently, I saw peaches and nectarines that had a kosher certification on it.  This is beyond nonsense. 

     

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« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2009, 10:12:01 am »
I wouldn't so call it ironic.  I would call it a problem.

In the Jewish very orthodox world, people seem to be taking upon themselves restrictions that don't exist.  This is part of it.  Recently, I saw peaches and nectarines that had a kosher certification on it.  This is beyond nonsense. 

     



I think the fact that Coors was the first is the ironic bit.
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« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2009, 10:18:23 am »
I think the fact that Coors was the first is the ironic bit.

Right.  I still require certification that Coors is beer.
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« Reply #124 on: July 22, 2009, 10:49:37 am »
Right.  I still require certification that Coors is beer.

My old man (R.I.P.) sure though so in the seventies when you could not get it legally in Texas.  That is all he drank, of course he was an Aggie, so that might explain it.

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« Reply #125 on: July 22, 2009, 03:30:21 pm »
Just testing a theory – do you have a beard, and look like a latino Ernest Hemingway? Do you not always drink beer? When you do, what is your preferred brand?



I had the same question when I looked at the profile of the attorney who is representing Michael Jackson's doctor.

An excerpt: 

When he is without his son, he works out, works, sleeps, contemplates the fate of society, works and then works out some more. He finds his life meaningless without some goal upon which to aspire. He runs the Houston Marathon each year, despite the fact that running bores him to tears.

His son, Fate, is the center of Ed’s life. (In fact, his name is tattooed on Ed’s arm.) He is named after Ed’s Grandfather, who taught him the value of hard work and attention to perfection. Ed believes in perfection. He prepares his cases to an absolute obsessive extent.
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« Reply #126 on: July 22, 2009, 03:32:27 pm »
I had the same question when I looked at the profile of the attorney who is representing Michael Jackson's doctor.

An excerpt: 

When he is without his son, he works out, works, sleeps, contemplates the fate of society, works and then works out some more. He finds his life meaningless without some goal upon which to aspire. He runs the Houston Marathon each year, despite the fact that running bores him to tears.

His son, Fate, is the center of Ed’s life. (In fact, his name is tattooed on Ed’s arm.) He is named after Ed’s Grandfather, who taught him the value of hard work and attention to perfection. Ed believes in perfection. He prepares his cases to an absolute obsessive extent.


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« Reply #127 on: July 22, 2009, 03:35:58 pm »
what utter bullshit.

His dedication to perfection is belied by the fact that one sentence before that excerpt, he brags about his "brick English tutor style home."
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« Reply #128 on: July 22, 2009, 03:41:23 pm »
His dedication to perfection is belied by the fact that one sentence before that excerpt, he brags about his "brick English tutor style home."

A tutor style home? What a lucky sonofagun!
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« Reply #129 on: July 22, 2009, 03:42:35 pm »
His dedication to perfection is belied by the fact that one sentence before that excerpt, he brags about his "brick English tutor style home."

did you read the entire thing? what crap.
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« Reply #130 on: July 24, 2009, 10:06:02 am »
I wouldn't so call it ironic.  I would call it a problem.

In the Jewish very orthodox world, people seem to be taking upon themselves restrictions that don't exist.  This is part of it.  Recently, I saw peaches and nectarines that had a kosher certification on it.  This is beyond nonsense. 

     



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« Reply #131 on: July 24, 2009, 11:53:57 am »
A tutor style home? What a lucky sonofagun!
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« Reply #132 on: July 24, 2009, 12:09:45 pm »
Is that one of them smart homes?
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« Reply #133 on: July 28, 2009, 08:54:51 pm »
Just to run this to ground.

I was finally feeling better.  No pain at all in my calf.  I could run normally.  I even did a couple of 5 mile runs at normal speed just to make sure that I was okay.

Last Sunday, I decided to play softball.  First two at bats, no problem.  Third at bat, I re-injure my calf muscle running out of the box.  Fortunately, it isn't as bad as the last muscle pull.  But this thing is a bitch.
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« Reply #134 on: July 29, 2009, 09:04:01 am »
Just to run this to ground.

I was finally feeling better.  No pain at all in my calf.  I could run normally.  I even did a couple of 5 mile runs at normal speed just to make sure that I was okay.

Last Sunday, I decided to play softball.  First two at bats, no problem.  Third at bat, I re-injure my calf muscle running out of the box.  Fortunately, it isn't as bad as the last muscle pull.  But this thing is a bitch.

remember Mo Alou's recurring, never-ending calf woes?
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« Reply #135 on: July 29, 2009, 09:23:07 am »
Just to run this to ground.

I was finally feeling better.  No pain at all in my calf.  I could run normally.  I even did a couple of 5 mile runs at normal speed just to make sure that I was okay.

Last Sunday, I decided to play softball.  First two at bats, no problem.  Third at bat, I re-injure my calf muscle running out of the box.  Fortunately, it isn't as bad as the last muscle pull.  But this thing is a bitch.
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« Reply #136 on: July 29, 2009, 11:22:49 am »
I work in NY but I live in suburbia.  My home is right over the GWBridge.  So I play at a number of fields all over Northern NJ. 

I also play on occassion for the SEC team "the Regulators" in the lawyers league.  But between my work schedule and the injury, I haven't been able to play at all for the SEC this season.  Those games are all over manhattan -- lower east side, central park, washington heights.
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