In case anyone cares...

[Andyzipp]

...the contract of Reggie Abercrombie has been purchased by the Astros to fill the roster spot left vacant by Carlos Lee.

Surely Drayton has asked Cincinnatti if Adam Dunn can come play for a few weeks in Houston.

[Taras Bulba]

...the contract of Reggie Abercrombie has been purchased by the Astros to fill the roster spot left vacant by Carlos Lee.

Surely Drayton has asked Cincinnatti if Adam Dunn can come play for a few weeks in Houston.

Would he get nabbed first by another club going through waivers?

[Reuben]

Not that I have anything more than stats to go on, but wouldn't Gorneault or possibly even Majewski have been more logical call-ups than Abercrombie?

[JimR]

Not that I have anything more than stats to go on, but wouldn't Gorneault or possibly even Majewski have been more logical call-ups than Abercrombie?

why? Majewski plays 1B. Gorneault has limited ability. to me, the decision was Reggie or Yordany.

[MusicMan]

to me, the decision was Reggie or Yordany.

The classic "damned if you do, damned if you don't."

Has Adam Dunn cleared waivers?

[Reuben]

why? Majewski plays 1B. Gorneault has limited ability. to me, the decision was Reggie or Yordany.

OK, my bad, thought Majewski played some LF, and I don't know much about Gorneault- so you're saying Abercrombie still has a higher ceiling, and might by some stroke of luck figure it out? Or are mainly talking about defensive ability?

[JimR]

OK, my bad, thought Majewski played some LF, and I don't know much about Gorneault- so you're saying Abercrombie still has a higher ceiling, and might by some stroke of luck figure it out? Or are mainly talking about defensive ability?

defense, speed

we are talking about a 5th OFer

[kevwun]

Majewski was an outfielder, but because of shoulders problems he's limited to first base.

[Reuben]

defense, speed

we are talking about a 5th OFer

Good point. I wasn't sure if Erstad was healthy enough to play every day, but it sounds like they will spell him with Wigginton rather than Abercrombie.

[ybbodeus]

In Wiggington's first post-game interview he repeatedly stated, "I just want to play."  Looks like management is more than willing to accomodate, given this adjustment.

[JJxvi]

Someone told me that Dunn had been acquired by the Dbacks this afternoon.

[tophfar]

Linky

[pravata]

http://www.ktar.com/sports/?nid=22&sid=930425

The Diamondbacks are giving up three prospects in the deal, minor league pitcher Dallas Buck and two other players to be named later.

The Diamondbacks will now have three of the top five strikeout leaders in the National League. Mark Reynolds is second with 147 and Chris Young is third with 122.

[Bench]

http://www.ktar.com/sports/?nid=22&sid=930425
The Diamondbacks will now have three of the top five strikeout leaders in the National League. Mark Reynolds is second with 147 and Chris Young is third with 122.

Cutting down on that electric bill. Costs a lot to air condition an entire stadium in the Pheonix summer.

[JimR]

i wonder if the Astros tried to get Dunn.

[pravata]

They would have had to offer more than

Dallas Buck: "Way Ahead of Schedule" 

Date: Apr 27, 2008

Sinkerball pitching prospect Dallas Buck, who underwent Tommy John surgery late last July, is ahead of his rehab schedule, and should join either the Visalia Oaks or the Mobile BayBears sooner than previously anticipated.
http://diamondbacks.scout.com/a.z?s=247&p=2&c=750457&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fdiamondbacks.scout.com%2f2%2f750457.html

Stats, Visalia, (A)
http://visalia.oaks.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Dallas%20Buck&pos=P&sid=t516&t=p_pbp&pid=453271

[JimR]

They would have had to offer more than

Dallas Buck: "Way Ahead of Schedule" 

Date: Apr 27, 2008

Sinkerball pitching prospect Dallas Buck, who underwent Tommy John surgery late last July, is ahead of his rehab schedule, and should join either the Visalia Oaks or the Mobile BayBears sooner than previously anticipated.
http://diamondbacks.scout.com/a.z?s=247&p=2&c=750457&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fdiamondbacks.scout.com%2f2%2f750457.html

Stats, Visalia, (A)
http://visalia.oaks.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Dallas%20Buck&pos=P&sid=t516&t=p_pbp&pid=453271

well, shit, we've got plenty of guys with bad arms too.

[pravata]

well, shit, we've got plenty of guys with bad arms too.

But no one with a name anywhere near as cool as Dallas Buck.

[Taras Bulba]

But no one with a name anywhere near as cool as Dallas Buck.

So, we lost out on this deal because Stubby Clapp was prancing around like a Kansas City faggot in China or somewhere?

[pravata]

So, we lost out on this deal because Stubby Clapp was prancing around like a Kansas City faggot in China or somewhere?

That was my first thought exactly.

[Gizzmonic]

So, we lost out on this deal because Stubby Clapp was prancing around like a Kansas City faggot in China or somewhere?

Quite possibly.

My apologies in advance for this link.  Those of you who visit FJM have already seen it.

[JimR]

Quite possibly.

My apologies in advance for this link.  Those of you who visit FJM have already seen it.

damn. i thought Dicks was a sporting goods store.

[toddthebod]

i wonder if the Astros tried to get Dunn.

If the Diamondbacks got Dunn it means that the Astros didn't even put in a waiver claim for Dunn.  Because had the Astros put in a claim, Dunn couldn't have gone to the Diamondbacks.  The Astros are lower in the standings.  Simple as that.

It's mind-boggling that the Astros didn't even put in a waiver claim given Lee's injury.

[JimR]

It's mind-boggling that the Astros didn't even put in a waiver claim given Lee's injury.

not if they did not want Dunn. that is what i am wondering.

[toddthebod]

not if they did not want Dunn. that is what i am wondering.

They obviously decided that they did not want him because they did not put in a waiver claim.  Like you, I am curious to know why that was the case.  It's not like he's making that much money for the rest of the season.  Now all that being said, having seen a lot of Dunn over the past few weeks, I'm not sure I have ever seen a worse defensive left-fielder.  And I've heard he's even worse at first.  But I don't know how much Dunn's defense goes into a decision about whether or not to acquire him.

[Andyzipp]

not if they did not want Dunn. that is what i am wondering.

Does Ed have friends in Toronto?!?

[BUWebguy]

Not knowing the timing, is it possible that the Dbacks' claim (and the Astros' non-claim) was made before Lee's injury? If it's 48 hours after a claim to work out a trade, that could have happened Saturday morning.

[jonbloozy]

Quite possibly.

My apologies in advance for this link.  Those of you who visit FJM have already seen it.

Penises?  Penii?

Bet those are good with Zaaschila's Guacamole con Chile Habanero Avacado & Habanero Salsa Spread Cremosa Salsa de Aguacate y Habanero.

[toddthebod]

I'm not sure that's how it works.  Is there a time limit by when a waiver claim has to be made?  For example, if the player is put on waivers at 12:00 pm, does the claim have to be made by 12:00 pm the next day?  I don't think so.  I think that a team can make a waiver claim right up until the end of the 2 business-day deadline.  Consequently, the Astros could have claimed Dunn anytime yesterday or this morning and still have defeated the Arizona claim.  The Reds could have pulled Dunn back if they didn't like what the Astros were offering, but the Arizona deal could not have gone through.

[pravata]

Not knowing the timing, is it possible that the Dbacks' claim (and the Astros' non-claim) was made before Lee's injury? If it's 48 hours after a claim to work out a trade, that could have happened Saturday morning.

That's the answer,

Reds placed Dunn on revocable waivers and the Diamondbacks claimed him, which gave them an exclusive 48-hour window to work out a trade with the Reds.

The two teams agreed to the trade shortly before that period expired.
http://www.wlwt.com/sports/17160502/detail.html

earliest report of the deal, 12:49
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2008/08/11/20080811dbacksdunn-CR.html

[MusicMan]

Shitty timing.

However, I will wager the beer of your choice that at least one Chronicle "writer" will question the Astros' judgement in "failing" to claim him.

[JaneDoe]

That's the answer,

Reds placed Dunn on revocable waivers and the Diamondbacks claimed him, which gave them an exclusive 48-hour window to work out a trade with the Reds.

The two teams agreed to the trade shortly before that period expired.
http://www.wlwt.com/sports/17160502/detail.html

earliest report of the deal, 12:49
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2008/08/11/20080811dbacksdunn-CR.html

We have an exceptional ferret here at SnS.  Thanks, prav.

[BudGirl]

I didn't want Dunn anyway.  I'm not upset the Astros didn't get him.

[pravata]

We have an exceptional ferret here at SnS.  Thanks, prav.

No problem.  All you need to do is tell me the answer (BUWebguy) and I can find it.

[Limey]

I didn't want Dunn anyway.  I'm not upset the Astros didn't get him.

He would've been nice off the bench, if nothing else, and wouldn't cost a roster spot because Kabong was DL'd.  There remains the need for a 4th outfielder, and Wiggy ain't it.

[JaneDoe]

Shitty timing.

However, I will wager the beer of your choice that at least one Chronicle "writer" will question the Astros' judgement in "failing" to claim him.

The bozos on 790 this am were all over the "Why don't they sign Barry" shit.  I listened about 7 seconds.  I am so sorry I did.

[Jacksonian]

He would've been nice off the bench, if nothing else, and wouldn't cost a roster spot because Kabong was DL'd.  There remains the need for a 4th outfielder, and Wiggy ain't it.

Abercrombie is the 4th for now and brings the same atmospheric conditions as Dunn.

[MusicMan]

Without any of the resulting home runs.

[toddthebod]

That's the answer,

Reds placed Dunn on revocable waivers and the Diamondbacks claimed him, which gave them an exclusive 48-hour window to work out a trade with the Reds.

The two teams agreed to the trade shortly before that period expired.
http://www.wlwt.com/sports/17160502/detail.html

earliest report of the deal, 12:49
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/diamondbacks/articles/2008/08/11/20080811dbacksdunn-CR.html

I don't think this is right.  From Paul DePodesta's site.

"Once a player is placed on trade waivers, the other 29 organizations have 48 hours during which to place a claim."

http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/2008/07/deadline-has-passed.html

I haven't seen anything that says that once the first team puts in a waiver claim, they get exclusive rights.

[MusicMan]

The Astros did not claim him.  This is because they did not have any need for him at the time he went on waivers.

[pravata]

I don't think this is right.  From Paul DePodesta's site.

"Once a player is placed on trade waivers, the other 29 organizations have 48 hours during which to place a claim."

http://itmightbedangerous.blogspot.com/2008/07/deadline-has-passed.html

I haven't seen anything that says that once the first team puts in a waiver claim, they get exclusive rights.

"If a player is claimed (which is what AZ did) by another organization, one of two things can happen: a) the player can be traded to (or simply given to) the claiming organization only  or b) the player can be pulled off of waivers by the originating Club. Any trade with the claiming Club has to be consummated within 48 hours."

[toddthebod]

The Astros did not claim him.  This is because they did not have any need for him at the time he went on waivers.

They didn't have to claim him immediately.  They had 48 hours to claim him once Dunn was put on revocable waivers.  They could have claimed Dunn the moment that Lee was injured.

[pravata]

They didn't have to claim him immediately.  They had 48 hours to claim him once Dunn was put on revocable waivers.  They could have claimed Dunn the moment that Lee was injured.

AZ had already made their claim.  We often hear of teams claiming a player to block another team from making a claim.  If any team could make a claim in the 48 hour window, and the window was not exclusive, this would not have any effect.

[Jacksonian]

"If a player is claimed (which is what AZ did) by another organization, one of two things can happen: a) the player can be traded to (or simply given to) the claiming organization only  or b) the player can be pulled off of waivers by the originating Club. Any trade with the claiming Club has to be consummated within 48 hours."

Is part of the process a team overtly declining a player in the 48 hour window as opposed to simply saying nothing?

I'm also envisioning something more complex.  I can see Wade calling the Reds to say they are interested in claiming Dunn and wondering if a trade can be worked out.  The Reds tell Wade he's not got enough to do a deal.  If Wade is worried about blocking Dunn to, say, the Cards or Cubs, the Reds can tell him they have a deal with Arizona ready to go (insert details) if Wade doesn't claim Dunn.  Gentlemanly.

[Limey]

Without any of the resulting home runs.

...or walks.

[toddthebod]

AZ had already made their claim.  We often hear of teams claiming a player to block another team from making a claim.  If any team could make a claim in the 48 hour window, and the window was not exclusive, this would not have any effect.

DePodesta's blog says that the claim and the trade has to be consumated within 48 hrs.  He also says that all of the other 29 teams can make a claim during those 48 hours.  So unless I am missing something, the Astros could have made a claim up until the end of the 48 hours, which would have torpedoed the Diamondback's claim and would have also given the Astros until the end of the 48 hours to make their own deal.  It does not make any sense that the window would be exclusive because that would mean that other teams could not block deals, which we know happens all of the time.

But I will tell you, all of the sites that purport to "explain" the waiver rules suck.  

I think someone needs to ask Justice what the rules are.  He would know.

[JimR]

Is part of the process a team overtly declining a player in the 48 hour window as opposed to simply saying nothing?

I'm also envisioning something more complex.  I can see Wade calling the Reds to say they are interested in claiming Dunn and wondering if a trade can be worked out.  The Reds tell Wade he's not got enough to do a deal.  If Wade is worried about blocking Dunn to, say, the Cards or Cubs, the Reds can tell him they have a deal with Arizona ready to go (insert details) if Wade doesn't claim Dunn.  Gentlemanly.

often done that way in the halcyon days of yore.

[Kent's Moustache]

Without any of the resulting home runs.

So, he's the Amarillo version of Dunn.

Steady winds, but much less rain.

[Ty in Tampa]

DePodesta's blog says that the claim and the trade has to be consumated within 48 hrs.  He also says that all of the other 29 teams can make a claim during those 48 hours.  So unless I am missing something, the Astros could have made a claim up until the end of the 48 hours, which would have torpedoed the Diamondback's claim and would have also given the Astros until the end of the 48 hours to make their own deal.  It does not make any sense that the window would be exclusive because that would mean that other teams could not block deals, which we know happens all of the time.

But I will tell you, all of the sites that purport to "explain" the waiver rules suck.  

I think someone needs to ask Justice what the rules are.  He would know.

I think once you decline, you've lost any chance of a claim.

[toddthebod]

Is part of the process a team overtly declining a player in the 48 hour window as opposed to simply saying nothing?

I'm also envisioning something more complex.  I can see Wade calling the Reds to say they are interested in claiming Dunn and wondering if a trade can be worked out.  The Reds tell Wade he's not got enough to do a deal.  If Wade is worried about blocking Dunn to, say, the Cards or Cubs, the Reds can tell him they have a deal with Arizona ready to go (insert details) if Wade doesn't claim Dunn.  Gentlemanly.

I could see this being the case.  Plus, if the Astros aren't going to get him, it is in the Astros interests to have a division leader (i.e. not a wildcard rival) get Dunn.  Speaking of that, the SteM blow another game.  Thanks Pirates.

[Bench]

I think once you decline, you've lost any chance of a claim.

I didn't realize you had to actively decline. You mean that it works that team A has hours 1 - 1.5 to make a claim, then team B has hours 1.5 - 3.0 to make a claim, and etcetera all the way up to the 48 hour deadline?

[Limey]

So, he's the Amarillo version of Dunn.

Steady winds, but much less rain.

El Nino?

[pravata]

DePodesta's blog says that the claim and the trade has to be consumated within 48 hrs.  He also says that all of the other 29 teams can make a claim during those 48 hours.  So unless I am missing something, the Astros could have made a claim up until the end of the 48 hours, which would have torpedoed the Diamondback's claim and would have also given the Astros until the end of the 48 hours to make their own deal.  It does not make any sense that the window would be exclusive because that would mean that other teams could not block deals, which we know happens all of the time.

But I will tell you, all of the sites that purport to "explain" the waiver rules suck.  

I think someone needs to ask Justice what the rules are.  He would know.

Here's the part I read on DePodesta's site, "a) the player can be traded to (or simply given to) the claiming organization only"  "Only" makes me think the claiming team has the 48 hr window.  I've been reading, and it has happened that a player was claimed by more than one team.  The tie breaker is, who has the worst record, and is the team in the same league, that team has first dibs.  But, since the waiver claim happened early Sat., and the Astros didn't make a claim, it doesn't seem like they could make a claim after AZ had already entered into the negotiating window.   

[mihoba]

The CBA says:

F. Waivers
Any assignment of a Player contract must conform to the rules regarding
waivers contained in Major League Rule 10.
In addition, each Friday, not later than 3 P.M. E.D.T., the Office of the
Commissioner shall notify the Association, by facsimile transmission,
of all waiver requests and their disposition. Notification shall include:
(1) the date on which the waiver request was made;
(2) the date of expiration of the waiver period;
(3) if the waiver period has expired, whether or not claims were
filed;
(4) if claims are not filed, the period for which waivers have
been granted; and
(5) if claims were filed, whether or not the Club requesting
waivers has withdrawn its request. In the event claims were filed and
the Club requesting waivers has withdrawn its request, the Office of
the Commissioner need not identify the claiming Club or Clubs.

[Bench]

Here's the part I read on DePodesta's site, "a) the player can be traded to (or simply given to) the claiming organization only"  "Only" makes me think the claiming team has the 48 hr window.  I've been reading, and it has happened that a player was claimed by more than one team.  The tie breaker is, who has the worst record, and is the team in the same league, that team has first dibs.  But, since the waiver claim happened early Sat., and the Astros didn't make a claim, it doesn't seem like they could make a claim after AZ had already entered into the negotiating window.   

I agree that the 48 hour window is exclusive to the team that claims the player and initiates with that team making the claim. What it appears we don't know is (1) when did Dunn go on waivers and (2) when would have that period in which Dunn was on waivers expired.

[Limey]

I'm glad they're up to date with the use of faxes.  It would be a nightmare to do this by telex.

Note to self:  Find 5th grader to exploit by having them design web portal for waiver transactions.

[Kent's Moustache]

El Nino?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEoHz56jWGY&feature=related

Resembles Dunn more than Abercrombie...

[mihoba]

Here is a Wiki entry.

Waivers

Any player under contract may be placed on waivers at any time. If a player is waived, any team may claim him. If more than one team claims the player from waivers, the team with the weakest record in the player's league gets preference. If no team in the player's league claims him, the claiming team with the weakest record in the other league gets preference. In the first month of the season, preference is determined using the previous year's standings.

If a team claims a player off waivers and has the viable claim as described above, his current team (the "waiving team") may choose one of the following options:

    * arrange a trade with the claiming team for that player within two business days of the claim; or
    * rescind the request and keep the player on its major league roster, effectively canceling the waiver; or
    * do nothing and allow the claiming team to (1) assume the player's existing contract, (2) pay the waiving team a waiver fee, and (3) place the player on its active major league roster.

If a player is claimed and the waiving team exercises its rescission option, the waiving team may not use the option again for that player in that season. If no team claims a player from waivers in three business days, the player has cleared waivers and may be assigned to a minor league team, traded, or released outright.

The waiver "wire" is a secret within the personnel of the Major League Baseball clubs; no announcement of a waiver is made until a transaction actually occurs. Many players are often quietly waived during the August "waiver-required" trading period to gauge trade interest in a particular player. Usually, when the player is claimed, the waiving team will rescind the waiver to avoid losing the player unless a trade can be worked out with the claiming team.

[Lurch]

I'm glad they're up to date with the use of faxes.  It would be a nightmare to do this by telex.

Note to self:  Find 5th grader to exploit by having them design web portal for waiver transactions.

Selig needs to sign up for a fantasy baseball league.  Waiver wire tools AND you can design your own avatar!

[pravata]

I agree that the 48 hour window is exclusive to the team that claims the player and initiates with that team making the claim. What it appears we don't know is (1) when did Dunn go on waivers and (2) when would have that period in which Dunn was on waivers expired.

(1) Had to be Friday "each Friday, not later than 3 P.M. E.D.T.," (2) 10 days? (3 see above)  At this point, it seems obvious the Astros had no interest in making a claim before Lee's injury.

[Limey]

Okay, so the Wikiality of the situation is that once the Astros declined to make a claim, the D-Backs had 2 days to make a trade (on the basis that the Reds didn't take him back and didn't just let him strike out walk).  The devil is still in the timing, but I doubt very much that the Astros had an option to claim Dunn after Lee broke his finger.

[Bench]

Here is a Wiki entry.

OK. It's a three day period. When that period ended, the D-Backs had the "viable claim." The D-Back's then had 48 hours to make a deal, which they finalized just before it expired. Thus, the three day waiver period ended sometime Saturday afternoon.

[Bench]

(1) Had to be Friday "each Friday, not later than 3 P.M. E.D.T.," (2) 10 days? (3 see above)  At this point, it seems obvious the Astros had no interest in making a claim before Lee's injury.

I think the Friday thing is just a weekly summary of activity that the league has to send out to all the teams.

This is from a Steve Phillips article from 2005, so consider the source.

"Players remain on waivers for a period of 47 business hours. (The waiver period starts at 2 p.m. ET on the given business day and ends at 1 p.m. ET two business days later.)

A waiver claim can be submitted anytime during the 47-hour period a player is on waivers. There is no advantage to submitting the claim in the first hour or the 47th hour.

Major League Waivers are revocable, meaning that if a player gets claimed, his club can pull him back and keep him if they do not reach a deal with the claiming club. If a player is pulled back off of this type of waivers, he cannot be placed on them again for 30 days.

If a player is claimed on waivers, the team which claims the player has 48½ hours (from 1 p.m. ET on the day he was scheduled to clear waivers to 1:30 p.m. ET two business days later) to make a deal with the player's club or he is automatically pulled back off of waivers."

[Ty in Tampa]

I think the Friday thing is just a weekly summary of activity that the league has to send out to all the teams.

This is from a Steve Phillips article from 2005, so consider the source.

"Players remain on waivers for a period of 47 business hours. (The waiver period starts at 2 p.m. ET on the given business day and ends at 1 p.m. ET two business days later.)

A waiver claim can be submitted anytime during the 47-hour period a player is on waivers. There is no advantage to submitting the claim in the first hour or the 47th hour.

Major League Waivers are revocable, meaning that if a player gets claimed, his club can pull him back and keep him if they do not reach a deal with the claiming club. If a player is pulled back off of this type of waivers, he cannot be placed on them again for 30 days.

If a player is claimed on waivers, the team which claims the player has 48½ hours (from 1 p.m. ET on the day he was scheduled to clear waivers to 1:30 p.m. ET two business days later) to make a deal with the player's club or he is automatically pulled back off of waivers."

Thanks, I was wrong.

[Jose Cruz III]

I think the Friday thing is just a weekly summary of activity that the league has to send out to all the teams.

This is from a Steve Phillips article from 2005, so consider the source.

"Players remain on waivers for a period of 47 business hours. (The waiver period starts at 2 p.m. ET on the given business day and ends at 1 p.m. ET two business days later.)

A waiver claim can be submitted anytime during the 47-hour period a player is on waivers. There is no advantage to submitting the claim in the first hour or the 47th hour.

Major League Waivers are revocable, meaning that if a player gets claimed, his club can pull him back and keep him if they do not reach a deal with the claiming club. If a player is pulled back off of this type of waivers, he cannot be placed on them again for 30 days.

If a player is claimed on waivers, the team which claims the player has 48½ hours (from 1 p.m. ET on the day he was scheduled to clear waivers to 1:30 p.m. ET two business days later) to make a deal with the player's club or he is automatically pulled back off of waivers."

So apparently Dunn was put on waivers Thursday afternoon at 2 and when Saturday at 1 rolled around Arizona was the lowest NL team claiming him. Little did any of us know that a few hours later Arroyo would come in high and tight. But even if no one would have claimed him he would have been off waivers and Houston could not have.

[Limey]

So apparently Dunn was put on waivers Thursday afternoon at 2 and when Saturday at 1 rolled around Arizona was the lowest NL team claiming him. Little did any of us know that a few hours later Arroyo would come in high and tight. But even if no one would have claimed him he would have been off waivers and Houston could not have.

What's sad is that we've spent hours trying to prove that the Astros didn't fuck up, which is something that an agendaless, experienced sportswriter could've told us in a few words on one line of a blog, but our sportswriters chose not to.

Maybe we should head down to the Chronicle's offices and let them know how we feel.

[MusicMan]

Maybe we should head down to the Chronicle's offices and let them know how we feel.

Torches!  In daylight!!

[Jose Cruz III]

Torches!  In daylight!!

Thats no good. Satan and his angels love fire.

[Reuben]

So apparently Dunn was put on waivers Thursday afternoon at 2 and when Saturday at 1 rolled around Arizona was the lowest NL team claiming him. Little did any of us know that a few hours later Arroyo would come in high and tight. But even if no one would have claimed him he would have been off waivers and Houston could not have.

Even earlier, if Phillips is right that the 2-day window is 2 "business days." Sounds like Dunn must've been put on waivers Tuesday; so teams had until 1 pm Thurs to claim him, and the D-backs had until 1:30 pm two business days later, i.e. Monday.

[Reuben]

...and looks like that was the case, according to BA.

the National League West-leading Diamondbacks placed a waiver claim on Reds left fielder Adam Dunn on Thursday, Aug. 7. With two business days to work with, the two sides reached an accord on the morning of Monday, Aug. 11

[toddthebod]

What's sad is that we've spent hours trying to prove that the Astros didn't fuck up, which is something that an agendaless, experienced sportswriter could've told us in a few words on one line of a blog, but our sportswriters chose not to.

The Comical took the easy way out.  The only thing they have on their website about the trade is an AP article.

[Astroholic]

The Comical took the easy way out.  The only thing they have on their website about the trade is an AP article.

At least this time Dick Justice they did not write an article based on an AP article.