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Talk Zone / Re: 2 examples of crazy (1 non BB)

« on: June 15, 2007, 02:57:25 pm »

Angels also interested in Tejada. A snippet about last year's trade deadline:

The Angels are reportedly interested in obtaining Baltimore shortstop Miguel Tejada. Last July, the teams agreed to a deal that would have sent Erick Aybar and Ervin Santana to Baltimore, but Orioles owner Peter Angelos nixed it.

From what I can tell, Santana is a 3rd or 4th starter. ERA 4.28 or higher last three season. Aybar doesn't seem to be much of anything.

http://www.pe.com/sports/baseball/breakout/stories/PE_Sports_Local_D_angels_notes_15.3bf80fa.html

3002

Talk Zone / Re: BFIBs

« on: June 14, 2007, 10:05:09 pm »

Never gets old.

3003

Talk Zone / Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart

« on: June 14, 2007, 10:03:14 pm »

I don't remember the numbers, but yes, he was hitting well when he suffered the broken arm.

Broken wrist on August 6, 2004.

.306/.358/.510, 5 HR, 16 RBI over previous 25 games.

This year:

.278/.313/.367, 1 HR, 7 RBI over previous 25 games.

3004

Talk Zone / Re: Lidge and his crusade

« on: June 14, 2007, 09:49:53 pm »

The hanging slider was in Game 5...

So Passan has the game and the pitch wrong.

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Talk Zone / Re: Lidge and his crusade

« on: June 14, 2007, 09:06:58 pm »

To call Albert Pujols' shot off Lidge in Game 6 of the 2005 National League Championship Series anything less would rob it of its proper due. Lidge fired his fastball,...

I thought he hung a slider?

3006

Talk Zone / Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart

« on: June 14, 2007, 08:03:48 pm »

Some people are fucking dirtbags.

From Dick's blog:

I received a stunning number of posts from people who wrote that Adam Everett's injury was a good thing. I didn't post any of them. I can't comprehend someone being happy about a broken leg.

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2007/06/everett_gone_48.html

Un-fucking-believable

3007

Talk Zone / Re: Bruntlett up; Jennings has shoulder tendinitis

« on: June 14, 2007, 07:31:59 pm »

So is trade value.  Wonder if he is overcompensating for the elbow that might be causing shoulder problems.

He was asked this specifically in the post game and said no. He seemed to be indicating that he was 'stretching it out' since he hadn't pitched in so long, and because his elbow felt so good he was really throwing hard, etc. Said the break in the game due to AE led to some stiffening, and Garner made the decision to pull him.

3008

Talk Zone / Re: Bruntlett up; Jennings has shoulder tendinitis

« on: June 14, 2007, 05:40:36 pm »

Jennings said in the postgame there should be no issue making his next start.

3009

Talk Zone / Re: Bruntlett up; Jennings has shoulder tendinitis

« on: June 14, 2007, 05:33:18 pm »

how is coming out after four innings encouraging?

Because it wasn't his elbow. Garner is thinking long term. Says that the shoulder bothered him in the last start too.

Only planned on 80 pitches for the day.

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Talk Zone / Bruntlett up; Jennings has shoulder tendinitis

« on: June 14, 2007, 05:29:48 pm »

per Scrap in the postgame

Very encouraged by Jennings, says elbow feels good. Could have gone max of 1 more inning.

3011

Talk Zone / Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart

« on: June 14, 2007, 05:16:16 pm »

If he can play SS, fine by me.

If I hear one person say "Burke to SS", my head will explode.  Yes, you can safely assume this means I am blocking 790AM from my dial.

If people are still riding Burke's jock, they must not watch the games.

3012

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 05:05:57 pm »

4 K's for Gunther.

3013

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 05:02:25 pm »

C'mon Moehler, whew.

PENCE!!! Berkman, Lee due.

and Embree is done.

3014

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:58:52 pm »

Yup... completely out of position.  Should have been routine.

Pinched for the DP. He is still in the same spot.

3015

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:58:18 pm »

roller into left?  Kendall was sucking before he came here.  shit, shit, shit

lucky asses.

broken bat looper.

3016

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:57:46 pm »

Jason Kendall. Awesome.

3017

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:50:47 pm »

ausmus already hit?

Ausmus still available.

3018

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:48:29 pm »

SON OF A FUCK.

Loretta can't make it happen.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:46:46 pm »

Bidge shoots it the other way. Again.

He should explore that more often.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:44:42 pm »

A stolen base could prevent that.

Lefty. Don't know Embree's move.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:43:37 pm »

Bidge on deck.

3022

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:42:58 pm »

Burkey with a line drive single back through the box.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:38:01 pm »

Munson-Burke-Ensberg due up.

Woo-hoo.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:31:30 pm »

Crazy lady on the phone left.

Nah, she's there. Her friends left.

I think she is pretty drunk.

3025

Talk Zone / Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:28:22 pm »

Guess he needs another B-12 shot.

He was just Palmeiro's dealer.

3026

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:25:09 pm »

Is Andy the neighbor?

She took a rest, but now she is yelling hitting tips to Lamb.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:23:36 pm »

Are you sure that isn't Andy?

Its not, but she is still going. Got her neighbor in on the act.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:21:34 pm »

Some stupid fuckwad is on the cell phone behind the plate waving her arm like a lunatic.

Dumbass.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:17:24 pm »

Lidge can't afford to walk this guy

Stewart got around late on the 96 heater. Fly to Lance.

3030

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:14:07 pm »

Nice snag by El Vendo reaching into the stands. Smart fan (one) gets out of the way. Another stupid fan gets his fatass in position but doesn't have a glove.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:06:55 pm »

Lidge warming.

Ausmus, Bidge still on the bench.

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Talk Zone / Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:05:43 pm »

Not that I'm advocating this (so be gentle in any beat downs) but who wants to wager if this injury renews the Lidge for Tejada nonsense? 

Tejada - .300/.358/.419, 7HR, 35RBI

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:03:02 pm »

Qualls delivers with the big K. A couple of filthy sinkers.

3034

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 04:01:38 pm »

JD calls a ground ball to second, and up comes a 4-6-3.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:59:51 pm »

or may be a triple play.  how cool would that be?

fit into the bizzaroness

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:58:55 pm »

Ticking time bomb.

Over throwing.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:57:40 pm »

They need to get Qualls out of this game.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:50:37 pm »

http://seattle.mariners.mlb.com/stats/sortable_player_stats.jsp?teamPosCode=sea&statType=1&noHighlight=true&section1=1&timeFrame=1&c_id=sea&statSet1=1&subScope=teamCode&timeSubFrame=2007&&sortByStat=HR

Bloomquist goes deep. At least once.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:43:54 pm »

Qualls picks reverT up with a slider in the dirt to end the inning.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:42:31 pm »

Burke takes the slow roller and snaps it in to Munson for the tag.

First and second, 2 outs. 0-2 now.

3041

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:40:32 pm »

Fucking Kendall.

3042

Talk Zone / Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:37:04 pm »

Brownie reports fractured right fibula. 4-8 weeks.

3043

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:36:19 pm »

AE - fracture right fibula. 4-8 weeks.

3044

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:21:50 pm »

reverT with the K on 3 pitches. First two at the knees looking, third goes by with a weak wave of the bat.

3045

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:18:48 pm »

You could play a drinking game while listening to Milo.  Take a drink everytime he says the ticket office is waiting for you to call them.

Sounds like something we did in college. We just called it 'getting shitty'.

3046

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:17:26 pm »

so what Lee has is contagious?

we're talking Harnisch bad. Hidalgo even.

3047

Talk Zone / Re: AE injured - taken from game on cart

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:14:00 pm »

Right leg. Off to the hospital for xrays.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070614&content_id=2026232&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:10:56 pm »

Shit.

Speak truly - is anyone actually optimistic about this game?

I think we'll see some more bizarre shit in the next 3 innings.

3049

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:09:21 pm »

Scutaro puts a hanger in the Biggio boxes.

3050

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 03:02:06 pm »

Do-Ray pointing out that MoBerg remembered to stop, forcing the throw to 2b.

Wandy PR for Scott, pointing out just how ludicrous carrying 12 pitchers really is.

Scott was in a full out hobble down the line.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:59:55 pm »

Scott barely beats out a high chopper to 2nd that went for the 4-6-3.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:58:43 pm »

JD on the Ausmus bobblehead - Its an action figure, you can take it in the bathtub!

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:55:39 pm »

Ensberg lines it past the diving shortstop into left. One run scores.

Luke to the dish.

Gaudin getting the hook.

3054

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:54:41 pm »

He better drive them in after AE gets back also.

That'll be next year.

3055

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:52:51 pm »

Burke gets hit on the hand on a check swing, HBP.

Gaudin pissed, gets told to get his coonass back on the mound, manager comes out.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:52:05 pm »

It actually bounced off his shin guard. And he was muttering the most delightful cursewords after he realized he didn't have the ball.

Makes more sense. Couldn't understand how it got so far away so quickly.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:51:12 pm »

Alright Burke, earn your fucking paycheck.

3058

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:50:50 pm »

Roof HAS to be closed, right?  Reason I ask is the box score I'm following shows weather data (91, broken clouds, hot, wind  7mph/S) rather than just saying "indoors".

Tis closed.

3059

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:47:23 pm »

PASSED FUCKING BALL?!?!?!

Munson flips his glove out on a breaker moving down and away from a lefty. Ball hits him right on the heel and bounces beind the left handed hitter. Munson looks confused the whole time.

3060

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:45:54 pm »

Lee needs some remedial defensive training. Perhaps we could send him a copy of JimR's tome?

Lee needs a swift kick in the ass. Repeat as necessary.

3061

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:43:47 pm »

Dish Network?

Well, I think it was more induced by the AE injury. Couldn't really focus on the game.

But, as far as the satellite... DirecTV... last night I just didn't get FSH until very late in the game. Today, pregame was fine and then when the game started the video went out, followed by the audio. It came back on sometime later.

3062

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:41:58 pm »

Lee throws into third for some unknown reason, runner advances. IBB to Crosby for the lefty/lefty matchup with Cust.

3063

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:40:23 pm »

McLemore makes Chavez look ridiculous swinging through a high strike.

3064

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:39:25 pm »

Hey, Qualls does not have a fat ass.

Qualls is not anywhere near the Hidalgo club.

3065

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:38:37 pm »

Patti Smith - Adam on crutches with leg wrapped. Can't report anything.

3066

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:35:39 pm »

me neither...and I'm watching on TV.

It's all muddled sound and blurry images right now.

Yeah, strangely the same for me.

3067

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:33:38 pm »

Milo mumbling something about the elbow stiffening.

Just guesses from JD/Brownie. Nothing confirmed.

3068

Talk Zone / AE injured - taken from game on cart

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:32:04 pm »

AE went out on a fly ball to left. Lee comes slow, AE glances out to see where he is and Lee I guess takes this as a plea for help. Lee speeds up and has to slide to avoid taking Everett out, but slides into AE's planted foot. AE immediately grabs for the lower leg above the ankle.

Lots of flex above the ankle. No word yet on extent of injury.

3069

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:23:08 pm »

Great.  The reason they were able to play that lumbering fat ass back is because Everett was going to hustle out and get the shallow pops.  Now, he forgets this plan, and barrels in.  Unbefuckinglievable.  The only shut down defensive player they have, out for the season. 

Lee was loafing, as usual. Pulled off, then came hard late, and then his fat ass couldn't gracefully get out of the way.

It was Lee's ball all the way.

3070

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:22:00 pm »

Who do we bring up?  Bruntlett?  Conrad?

My guess is Bruntlett.

3071

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:20:12 pm »

Loretta to SS, Ensberg to 3rd.

3072

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:16:34 pm »

AE hurt.

Shallow fly, Lee comes in, AE goes out. Lee slides into him, ball dropped.

Its maybe not broken. A lot of give above the ankle.

3073

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:16:24 pm »

Again, matches what I was sensing watching/listening to the games lately.  The ponches are starting to mount.

Yeah, but .345/.345/.552 over the same.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:14:53 pm »

League figuring him out?  Time to adjust...

A's have been pitching everything away. The 'frisbee' slider was at about his shoulders and he swung through it for the K.

3075

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:12:11 pm »

Thanks.  I was wondering after the dos ponches today if Hunter isn't prone to the K quite a bit, you know, when he isn't hitting a double or triple or something.  He loves to swing the bat, that's for sure.  Hmmm... if he plays about 100 games, he'll be near the 100 K for the season this year.  That's not too bad, a product of a hitter not afraid to swing.  You just hope he doesn't just flail at everything and stays on the breaking ball longer to give himself a chance with that pitch.

18 in the last 14 games. He's had at least one in every game except one over that stretch.

12 in the 26 prior.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:08:35 pm »

K, 2B, 2B, 1B

The single was off the glove of the first baseman, Carlos on 2nd had to hold. Trickled away into right and Lee gets his diesel fired up. Questionable send by Manso because Lee was dragging (3) 5 gallon buckets of Blue Bell. The throw was way up the 3rd baseline, so not close.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:05:56 pm »

30 K's in 40 games.

Somebody check my math:

Hunter Pence - 43 Games - 30 Ks?  Is this right?

BTW - Milo sucks! 

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 02:01:31 pm »

Berkman drives one Berkman style to left field for the double.

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:58:24 pm »

Did Munson just get spiked on his throwing hand while making that tag?

More kicked by the back foot as he planted his throwing hand to make the tag.

3080

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:56:45 pm »

That's new.

He is doing a thing where he kinda flips it up like he is nervous. This inning, he was holding it with two hands until the windup and then doing the flip thing.

Yeah, its new.

3081

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:43:44 pm »

Munson won't hold his glove still behind the plate.

3082

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:40:34 pm »

Astros: the cure for what ails ya!

JD thought Suzuki would catch today. Yeah, fat chance.

3083

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:37:21 pm »

Kendall - 5x9 for the series with a HR.

3084

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:32:08 pm »

Chris Burke can kiss my ass.

3085

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:29:30 pm »

This guy's balls move all over the place (NTTAWWT). I wonder if he even knows where they're going to wind up.

Effectively wild. He's already thrown two frisbee sliders that stayed up.

3086

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:23:16 pm »

Why isn't Lee standing on 2nd? Could he be more of a shitty baserunner?

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:14:55 pm »

Chavez pitch for the homer wasn't bad, typical Jennings 88-89mph fastball on the outside corner moving away. Chavez looking for it and drove it Berkman style the other way.

3088

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Afternoon Delight: A's at 'Stros, June 14

« on: June 14, 2007, 01:12:48 pm »

Double plus E6 scores Kotsay,

Throw was fine, Munson set up in the wrong spot and Jennings set his large ass in the wrong spot for the backup

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Game Zone 2007 Archive / A's at Sampson - 6/13/07

« on: June 13, 2007, 06:24:34 pm »

Oakland

Kotsay, CF
Ellis, 2B
Swisher, RF
Chavez, 3B
Johnson, 1B
Crosby, SS
Cust, LF
Kendall, C
Blanton, P

Houston

Biggio, 2B
Lamb, 1B
Pence, CF
Lee, LF
Loretta, 3B
Burke, RF
Munson, C
Everett, SS
Sampson, P

3090

Talk Zone / Re: Rosenthal on the possibility of a Lidge trade

« on: June 13, 2007, 05:06:02 pm »

Astros scout was at the Reds-Angels game Monday, with "some people" speculating about interest in Dunn.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/content/oh/story/sports/pro/reds/2007/06/12/ddn061307dunn.html

3091

Talk Zone / Re: Rosenthal on the possibility of a Lidge trade

« on: June 13, 2007, 05:01:09 pm »

Tim Brown at Yahoo! seems to think Jason Jennings is in play as well. He has nothing to back this up.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/mlb_experts/post/Five-and-Fly-Roiling-Rangers-spiral-downward?urn=mlb,36380

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Talk Zone / Rosenthal on the possibility of a Lidge trade

« on: June 13, 2007, 04:38:26 pm »

Rival executives are contacting the Astros about right-hander Brad Lidge, but one club official says the team would need to be "blown away" to trade the reliever now that he has returned to form and regained the closer's role.

The Astros probably would want a premium young catcher and promising young pitcher for Lidge. Some teams would regard that as too high a price, considering the financial commitment that such a trade also would entail.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6911370

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Talk Zone / Re: Ensberg's slide

« on: June 13, 2007, 12:39:10 pm »

Anyone arguing about sliding head first into first is retarded.

Running through the bag is a no doubter unless you're trying to avoid a tag at first instead of the force.

I'm talking more general sliding head first.

Then what the fuck are we talking about? Ensberg was sliding head first into first base.

3094

Talk Zone / Re: Ensberg's slide

« on: June 13, 2007, 12:35:47 pm »

Think about it this way...

Would it be faster to take all your momentum and throw yourself forward at something, or to run and try and stop when you get to it?

Its first base. He doesn't have to stop.

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Talk Zone / Re: Frito Pie gets a new fan...

« on: June 13, 2007, 12:27:48 am »

Oh, and since this is about frito pie... any of you Austinites ever eat the frito pie at Bert's? They use chopped beef instead of chili. It's not the best BBQ in town or anything, and I don't think real frito pie allows for substituting the chili, but it ain't a bad lunchtime treat.

Dickey's will also use chopped beef in the Frito Pie. Damn good.

3096

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:44:49 pm »

The more things change.......

A's 3-4-5 were 0x14, 4BB, 8K

3097

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:42:25 pm »

Biggio - .219/.266/.368

Everett - .230/.280/.314

Kotsay - 4x5, HR
Kendall - 2x5, 2 RBI, R

3098

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:24:56 pm »

I think Borkowski deserves a win right here.

JD agrees.

3099

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:22:57 pm »

Holy shit. Borkowski should be the closer.

3100

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:20:16 pm »

Platinum Sombero for Swisher?

Golden.

3101

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:19:41 pm »

Kendall is "more" due.

I blame you the most, Alkie.

3102

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:14:29 pm »

If Iceberg works a walk...

3103

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:11:15 pm »

To a bunch of insurance salesmen that can (literally) barely spell their own names?  Hardly.  These webinars make me think even less of humankind.  If that's possible.

20 pages and 380 posts of this shit tonight.

Outstanding.

3104

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:09:04 pm »

If you can convince a room full of people to get properly registered with their state or go to jail, the gig is yours.

Sex offenders?

3105

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:08:29 pm »

Wheeee!!!! Sac him over, and let PENCE!!! save the day.

RISPY Loretta will swing away.

3106

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 10:07:38 pm »

This "play Bidge only at MMPUS" should be explored.

3107

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:59:59 pm »

IBB to Kotsay. Fantastic.

3108

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:50:54 pm »

what the fuck was Burke doing bunting?

3109

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:46:40 pm »

to Crosby

slider over the inner third, swung over
fastball outer third fouled off
slider hung a little on the inside, popped to AE

3110

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:44:37 pm »

to Johnson (left)

IBB

3111

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:44:06 pm »

to Chavez (left)

fastball inner third called strike
slider in and down, fouled off
slider in the dirt, chased wildly for the K

3112

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:42:35 pm »

to Swisher (left)

slider on the outside misses
fastball on his shins, has to jump out of the way
fastball down and in, in the dirt, gets away from ausmus, runner advances
fastball down and in, swing and miss, 3-1
slider up, catches the outside corner, called strike
slider in and in the dirt, K swinging

3113

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:39:13 pm »

to Ellis

Fastball outside corner
fastball about the same spot, double down the right field line, kicked up the chalk

3114

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:38:01 pm »

Lidge on

to Kotsay (left)

Slider backing up on the outside, called strike
Fastball down and in, 97, fouled
hung a slider, homer to right.

3115

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:19:42 pm »

Have you never watched Park "pitch"?

hmmmmm.

Turn up your sarcasm meters for fuck's sake.

3116

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:17:47 pm »

Chan Ho?

Anybody would be better than Woodrow.

3117

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:15:56 pm »

JD - Trever is the mailman. Nobody notices him until he doesn't show up.

3118

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:13:11 pm »

He was staring at him. 

He should have been. Miller has good control and was trying to move the hitter back so he could throw his trash on the outside corner. Same thing he was doing the other day... except that guy Biggio'd up.

3119

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 09:08:47 pm »

reverT on.  Strap it in candyasses.

Tried to nail the first guy, again.

3120

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 08:49:01 pm »

"And he owns a bulldozer."

"He makes passive aggressive comments to the media."

3121

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 08:46:58 pm »

I've been thinking for a while (yes, it stings a bit), but what is this referring to?

Alkie is compensating with his post count.

3122

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 08:41:26 pm »

I havent got time to be picky.

Must consume mass quantities.

3123

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 08:34:55 pm »

Not me, nothing but beer passes my lips in that venue.

Miller Lite?

3124

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 08:29:15 pm »

He's had the best atbats in the last 2 games, now 3.  We've said that the Astros were looking for more big hits from the 8 spot.  Now they're getting them.  That's one thing off the list.

He really waited on that hook. Good hitting.

3125

Talk Zone / Re: Give this melon a thump, I don't think it's ripe.

« on: June 12, 2007, 08:06:55 pm »

``What are you supposed to do? Just sit around with ice on you while you're teammates are involved in a bench-clearing brawl? You can't do that,'' Berkman said. ``No matter what happens, I don't care how much they fine me or how much they suspend me, I'd do it again in a heartbeat.''
Link

Yes, you moron, that's exactly what you're supposed to do.  For the good of the team.  That's why the Manager runs out and grabs you before you get to the umpire.  Because you are important to the team, not some macho bullshit. Berkman was facing a one day suspension, now, if Watson wants to, (which he may not) he could give him much more.  Berkman seems to be perpetually unaware of the situation on the field.  Also, what's with the ice?

"There is an automatic suspension for coming back on the field, which I wasn't aware of at the time," Berkman said. "I wasn't thinking about that at the time and even if I had known it, I probably would have still run out there.

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070612&content_id=2021563&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

3126

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 08:00:04 pm »

Right.  Soon as they come back the Astros will score more runs.  Any day now.

The Astros are wasting their prime years in the minors. Absolutely rotting away.

3127

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:54:48 pm »

Bidge going the other way again. I swear, someone correct me, he didn't do that one single time on the road trip.

3128

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:53:42 pm »

So. 

1) Suck
2) Lose playing time
3) Suck off the bench
4) Beg for another chance
5) Suck
6) Complain
7) Suck
Get sent down
9) Complain
10) Suck worse at a lower level
11) Get called up
12) Suck
13) Complain
14) Get more playing time
15) Score in a ML game

I should have never quit after LL.

You forget the part where you give the interview where you 'understand why they sent you down and recognize you need to work harder'.

3129

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:36:07 pm »

You have got to be shitting me.

Do you feel something tight around your neck?

3130

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:33:16 pm »

Cust looks like a shorter, fatter Adam Dunn.

3131

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:30:58 pm »

JD getting down on the homeplate ump. He has been doing that quite often this year.

3132

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:29:47 pm »

Also....Biggio.

Pound Bidge with fastballs? I was just thinking that.

3133

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:28:05 pm »

Gotta be.  Some mole scout.  Yeah, I wouldn't throw this kid any breaking stuff.  Fastball in, that's where to go.  Real slow hands on the lanky guy.

I hope he gets that same note into Bidge's book. Inside fastballs, belt high. Old man can't get around on the heat.

3134

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:22:38 pm »

Now THAT'S funny.

I can't believe it didn't occur to me that Oswalt is trying to beat Kennedy tonight.

From that Book Suppository Building, sir!

3135

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:19:10 pm »

Bidge goes the other way ... I don't think I saw him even try to go the other way the entire road trip.

3136

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:17:05 pm »

Real question:

Does anyone in here find it the least bit "cool" that we're playing AL West teams this week?  Does anyone who cares about the actual sport still find Interleague (not just the stupid "rivalries") interesting?

I honestly don't think I do.  For a while, it was kind of interesting, but I'd much rather be playing the Reds or Brewers tonight.

Really doesn't matter to me. Can't say I'd rather see the Astros play any particular team.

3137

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 07:15:06 pm »

Now, what might be considered a sign of too much to drink...


I clicked over to Gameday, say Roy's picture in the pitcher's spot, and thought "homer" before Roy Oswalt.

I've been spending too much time in here...or homer has....

You've spent damn near as much time as me.

3138

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 06:45:05 pm »

Yep, only player in baseball worse at the plate than Everett.

I guarantee he breaks out this series.

Biggio - .219/.266/.368

Everett - .230/.280/.314

3139

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 06:32:32 pm »

The cool thing about interleague play is that the Astros finally get to face guys like Mark Kotsay and Jason Kendall.

This is EXACTLY what Kendall needed to bust out of his season-long slump.  I bet he's been looking forward to this series for 2 years.

Kendall - .194/.236/.204

Ouch.

ETA: He is in the last year of a 6/60 - making $13M this year.

3140

Talk Zone / Re: Berkman may start suspension today

« on: June 12, 2007, 06:29:45 pm »

Berkman drops appeal

Astros first baseman Lance Berkman dropped his appeal of his two-game suspension and will begin serving it tonight against the Oakland A's. Berkman will be eligible to return to action Thursday.

....

"We checked with the commissioner's office and they were fairly adamant the appeal was going to do no good. In my mind, there's no sense in dragging it out or having something hanging over my head. Just get it out of the way and move on."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/4883811.html

3141

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Athletics at Astros - 6/12/07

« on: June 12, 2007, 06:27:39 pm »

Oakland

Kotsay, CF
Ellis, 2B
Swisher, RF
Chavez, 3B
Johnson, 1B
Crosby, SS
Cust, LF
Kendall, C
Kennedy, P

Houston

Biggio, 2B
Loretta, 1B
Pence, CF
Lee, LF
Ensberg, 3B
Burke, RF
Everett, SS
Ausmus, C
Oswalt, P

3142

Talk Zone / Re: Astros sign Chan Ho Park to minor league deal

« on: June 12, 2007, 06:24:43 pm »

...of....?

of anything worthy of getting dramatic about.

3143

Talk Zone / Re: Astros sign Chan Ho Park to minor league deal

« on: June 12, 2007, 05:59:54 pm »

it's like that old Western, "Purpura's Last Stand"

(I think he dies at the end)

Don't be so dramatic. Its just a minor league contract... not like he is starting Game 7.

3144

Talk Zone / Berkman may start suspension today

« on: June 12, 2007, 04:22:47 pm »

If Luke Scott is healthy enough to start today, and the rest of the outfielders are fine, Lance Berkman will more than likely drop his appeal tonight in the first game of the three-game series against the Oakland A's and begin serving the two-game suspension and pay the $2,000 fine he received Friday for his antics last Tuesday when he was ejected in Denver for arguing balls and strikes.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bb/4881492.html

3145

Talk Zone / Re: Mac Talk

« on: June 12, 2007, 04:12:48 pm »

They are expensive, but so are Ferraris.  If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up...

Macs compared to Ferraris? Give that shit a rest.

3146

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at sbuC - 6/11/07

« on: June 11, 2007, 10:08:53 pm »

Fontenot is from Slidell.  He's not fake nothin.  Me and him are likely related.

pravata is coonass?

3147

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Astros at sbuC - 6/11/07

« on: June 11, 2007, 06:34:45 pm »

Houston

Biggio, 2B
Pence, CF
Berkman, RF
Lee, LF
Loretta, 3B
Lamb, 1B
Everett, SS
Ausmus, C
Williams, P

Chi Cubs

Soriano, LF
Pie, CF
Lee, 1B
Jones, RF
DeRosa, 3B
Fontenot, 2B
Theriot, SS
Hill, K, C
Zambrano, P

3148

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:47:24 pm »

If you know the number, you know too much.

i had to look up the exact number on pravata's google.

3149

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:42:02 pm »

i figured but had no idea of the number.

Probably a bit too subtle for this crowd.

I hate to explain jokes, I should have just left it alone.

3150

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:39:19 pm »

hey, do you know how much i depend on homer's noticing my posts? i'm on a mission here.

It was a veiled reference to Lucci's inability to win an Emmy until her 19th nomination.

3151

Talk Zone / Re: Quintero outrighted to RR, McLemore up

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:27:48 pm »

Am I focusing too much on work today?  I missed the meaning of this.

Chicks Dig the Long Ball

3152

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:26:53 pm »

FWIW, this is the second Susan Lucci reference you've made today...

I figured we would need to see about 18 before it was worthy of mention.

3153

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:19:50 pm »

apparently this thread says otherwise.

Its really fascinating television, better than most of what is on.

HH is just a big baby.

3154

Talk Zone / Blogger ejected from NCAA baseball game (non Astros)

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:18:19 pm »

A Courier-Journal sports reporter had his media credential revoked and was ordered to leave the press box during the NCAA baseball super-regional yesterday because of what the NCAA alleged was a violation of its policies prohibiting live Internet updates from its championship events.

...

U of L circulated a memo on the issue from Jeramy Michiaels, the NCAA's manager of broadcasting, before Friday's first super-regional game. It said blogs are considered a "live representation of the game" and that any blog containing action photos or game reports would be prohibited.

"In essence, no blog entries are permitted between the first pitch and the final out of each game," the memo said.

...

During the middle of yesterday's game, Courier-Journal representatives were told by two members of the U of L athletic staff that if the school did not revoke Bennett's credential it would jeopardize the school's chances of hosting another NCAA baseball event.

"If that's true, that's nothing short of extortion and thuggery," Ivory said. "We will be talking to our attorneys (today) to see where we go from here."

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007706110450

3155

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:10:37 pm »

None of this conversation makes me regret not watching a single episode of this show.

Watch it on DVD. You won't be disappointed.

3156

Talk Zone / Re: Quintero outrighted to RR, McLemore up

« on: June 11, 2007, 02:04:41 pm »

Their pitching would be better if they learned to pitch themselves and didn't rely on the catcher.

This, in particular, is especially ignorant.

3157

Talk Zone / Re: Anyone going to the game tomorrow night?

« on: June 11, 2007, 01:56:21 pm »

Watch for me, I am throwing out the first pitch.  Is there any OWA gear I should wear out there?

Dave Clark jersey.

3158

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 01:46:20 pm »

Rumor has it, that the DVD of this season, will contain the actual ending that was blacked out.

Got a link for this? Because I don't believe it.

3159

Talk Zone / Re: Quintero outrighted to RR, McLemore up

« on: June 11, 2007, 01:35:09 pm »

Damn those pitchers, working on their pitching instead of the important stuff.

CDLB

3160

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 10:55:13 am »

I got the distinct impression, over these last few shows, that we weren't supposed to like Tony and his family anymore: Tony killed Chris and was deconstructed as a psychological fraud by Dr. Melfi's peers; Carmela blamed Tony's fucked up genes for AJ's pathetic suicide attempt;  AJ's pathetic suicide attempt; Meadow hooked up with the son of a made guy.

They were made to look very ordinary. And everyone wanted to deny their own reality... that is when they are most happy.

3161

Talk Zone / Re: Wandy Rodriguez, Humanitarian extrodaniare

« on: June 11, 2007, 10:41:43 am »

Wandy hates prostate cancer.  $48,000.00 in donations thanks to the longballs. Now he can say that he gave at the office!
Mike Lamb too.

Imagine if it had been to raise money to find a cure for herpes.

3162

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 10:37:55 am »

I have a slightly different view:

AJ finally looks like he's back on "track" so to speak.

AJ is back to denying reality, like the rest of the Soprano clan. All of his pissing and moaning, and all he needed was a new hot girlfriend and a new car.

Tony accepts Meadow's decision to go to law school when she explains that her decision was based upon the way he was treated.

Meadow fucking sold out, like the rest of her family (Carmela especially) for a job that pays $170k. So much for helping the little guy.

Uncle Junior probably has alzheimers disease.  Tony realizes that he doesn't need to hate Junior anymore and just pities him.

Tony realizes that being the boss of North Jersey doesn't mean anything, and in the end you die alone in a nursing home and forget where you put the money you worked so hard to earn. Tony sees himself.

Janice is going to be taken care of financially.

Janice is still a shallow, self centered, money grubbing whore.

Phil Leotardo is dead and Tony makes peace with Brooklyn.

Phil is dead, and now everyone can get back to earning... including his own guys. He got on his soapbox about how mistreated he was and how Tony didn't respect the thing. Problem was, this was his own personal crusade and nobody else gave a fuck. Its only about earning. That is why he got whacked.

Paulie looks to be Tony's right hand.

No matter how tough Paulie might appear, he is still a pussy. He bitched and moaned for the entire show about how he never got respect from Tony. Whether is was when Chris was promoted or nobody came to see him in jail. Then, when Tony offers him Capo, he fucking pusses out because the position was cursed. Or whatever insanity he used to justify it.

Sil is probably dead.  Chris is dead.  Bobby is dead.

Tony doesn't even seem to grieve for these people.

3163

Talk Zone / Vagina riding the pine

« on: June 11, 2007, 09:42:55 am »

Barrett will not catch Zambrano tonight.

Piniella instead will start Koyie Hill at catcher. Zambrano and Barrett fought twice during a June 1 game at Wrigley Field, but Piniella cited the quick turnaround after a Sunday night game for starting Hill.

“We’re coming in at 2 in the morning,” Piniella said. “At some point, we’ll reunite them as batterymates.”

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/story.asp?id=321838

3164

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 09:09:17 am »

I do: it's when a show goes so far off the rails it's beyond redemption.  The Sopranos did that last night, with it's final frame, because it went from being a compelling drama to being a 1930's Flash Gordon.

Yeah, off the rails but keeps on going for another season or five. Can't jump the shark in the last episode.

3165

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 11, 2007, 09:04:23 am »

A few seconds of sheer panic, thinking my cable has crapped out, then a few seconds of "No, they didn't...did they?"  Then Mrs Limey and I discussing what a fucking ridiculous ending that was.

The Sopranos jumped the shark.  What a terrible legacy for a brilliant show.

I don't think you understand what 'jump the shark' means.

3166

Talk Zone / Re: Sopranos (non-BB)

« on: June 10, 2007, 10:34:47 pm »

If his style is to be a total dumbfuck, shitforbrains director, then he fuckin nailed it.  Remind me to never watch anything he does again.

I didn't think it was that great either, but I really have to ask... What did you expect? It was pretty typical Soprano mind fucking.

3167

Talk Zone / Re: If You're Not Watching the Cubs/Braves

« on: June 10, 2007, 10:17:21 pm »

scrubbies pen just blew it in the 8th.

final run given up when the pitcher fell down during his pitch, wild pitch, run scores from third.

cubs find new ways to lose games.

3168

Talk Zone / Re: Quintero outrighted to RR, McLemore up

« on: June 10, 2007, 08:04:41 pm »

  Williams had already complained about Quintero

Was there ever any more info on this? Other than the fact that Woody was done with him?

3169

Talk Zone / Re: If You're Not Watching the Cubs/Braves

« on: June 10, 2007, 07:55:18 pm »

He fucking slugged him!

I hate to agree with Piniella, but he's got a point.  How the fuck would Jim Wolf know Lilly was throwing at Renteria?   "Because I knew it was coming."  Wha??

Yeah, I don't buy this stuff about Soriano getting hit yesterday.

Kinda neat they had the ump mic'd up to here all that.

3170

Talk Zone / Re: If You're Not Watching the Cubs/Braves

« on: June 10, 2007, 07:40:34 pm »

Renteria just went into 2nd fist first.

If you likes fightin', turn on ESPN.  En vivo!  En HD!

I guarantee some more ejections tonight.

ETA: sorry, I just realized this makes it sound like there's a fight right now.  there isn't.  you can just see the benches will clear tonight on the next close pitch.  benches HAVE already cleared once.

I can't believe Renteria didn't get tossed. That was fucking blatant with the forearm.

3171

Talk Zone / Re: Quintero outrighted to RR, McLemore up

« on: June 10, 2007, 06:57:09 pm »

And Q is PISSED.

""I'm mad," he said. "I'm mad with this organization. I can play here. I can play. I know that. ... And nobody knows somebody put me on waivers. I don't know what's going on right now. I can play for 29 more teams. I want to play for 29 more teams, not only Houston."

WARNING, link is to JdJo's Blog in the Chron.

http://blogs.chron.com/baseballblog/

Amazingly, Footer reports a slightly different reaction from Q:

"Said Quintero: 'I can play for 29 more teams. Hopefully, Houston -- that's all I'm going to say.'"

http://houston.astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070610&content_id=2018258&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou

3172

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Asswipe's Employer

« on: June 10, 2007, 02:04:22 pm »

And Fuck you Randy Marsh. yet another home plate umpire with a roaming strike zone.

Good to see the strikezone around the knees is now open for business.

3173

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Asswipe's Employer

« on: June 10, 2007, 01:59:19 pm »

Son of a bitch, way to kill a rally Carlos.

3174

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Asswipe's Employer

« on: June 10, 2007, 01:57:22 pm »

Fucking Carlos Lee is the worst fucking baserunner of all fucking time.

3175

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Asswipe's Employer

« on: June 10, 2007, 01:52:07 pm »

Can you imagine the bitching and moaning if he got sent down again?

From Burke? Or the fans?

3176

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Asswipe's Employer

« on: June 10, 2007, 01:44:39 pm »

Good. One step closer to unloading reverT.

reverT will be here the whole season unless his arm falls off or he is traded. Just get used to it.

3177

Talk Zone / Quintero outrighted to RR, McLemore up

« on: June 10, 2007, 01:39:07 pm »

per the broadcast

3178

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Asswipe's Employer

« on: June 10, 2007, 01:34:53 pm »

What the hell was Lee doing out there?  Shitfuck.

He took his eye off the flapjack.

3179

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Asswipe's Employer

« on: June 10, 2007, 01:14:41 pm »

Lee-Burke-Berkman is just not cool.

3180

Talk Zone / Re: do your part to help the astros

« on: June 10, 2007, 01:01:30 am »

I have to learn to lay off a slider low and away?

And stop watching strike 3.

3181

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros vs Faded Hosiery

« on: June 09, 2007, 05:56:10 pm »

Is Lidge not available?  He's been the best reliever Garner's had over the last month.

Pitched the last 4 days, 1 inning each.

3182

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros vs Faded Hosiery

« on: June 09, 2007, 05:48:37 pm »

Great at-bat by Loretta. Garner is not happy with OP.

Garner is not happy, period.

3183

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros vs Faded Hosiery

« on: June 09, 2007, 05:47:43 pm »

Good hittin by Lance.

3184

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros vs Faded Hosiery

« on: June 09, 2007, 05:44:09 pm »

This asshole Fox broadcaster is a clark.

3185

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros vs Faded Hosiery

« on: June 09, 2007, 05:16:20 pm »

Scott injured. Biggio in to pinch run.

3186

Talk Zone / Asswipe suspended one game

« on: June 09, 2007, 12:25:36 pm »

For an ejection over arguing balls and strikes on Thursday. He'll serve today unless he appeals.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20070609&content_id=2015834&vkey=pr_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

3187

Talk Zone / Re: Carlos Lee

« on: June 08, 2007, 10:46:36 pm »

(Thursday) But the Nationals manager was not willing to overlook what he perceived as a lack of hustle in Thursday's 3-2 loss to the Pirates.

In the fifth inning, leadoff hitter Felipe Lopez hit a ground ball to second base and stopped running before the Pirates recorded the out. When Lopez returned to the dugout, Acta informed him he was being replaced by Ronnie Belliard.

"We've said from the beginning, 'We're going to play hard, we're going to play right and we're probably going to have to outhustle the opposition," Acta said. "That's not going to be tolerated, regardless of who you are."

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20070607&content_id=2011724&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=was

3188

Talk Zone / Re: other teams newspapers are great

« on: June 08, 2007, 10:37:11 pm »

To me, these sites are only good for are finding out quick info, such as broadcast schedules and stats. You will get more incidences of breaking news on OWA sooner than you will on the Astros MLB site. You say cookie-cutter, and I agree. Propaganda is another word/term that comes to my mind.

Footer (astros.com) is the official journalist of OWA. Without her, we would be more or less lost concerning the Astros. FACT!

3189

Talk Zone / Re: Berkman uses the "D" word

« on: June 08, 2007, 10:05:12 pm »

"I thought I'd walked, but the guy (Ed Rapuano) had called me out (on a checked swing) and instead of a walk it's a strikeout. That irritates the stew out of me even now. So it's not the fact that I've had some misfortune and under performance. It's the fact that I was really irritated that I felt like he missed that call."

http://blogs.chron.com/baseballblog/archives/2007/06/berkman_is_losi.html

3190

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:52:47 pm »

Like a clark on step 13?

About to get whiffed?

Falling off the table?

3191

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:45:32 pm »

Man that slider disappeared, fell off the table, whatever description you find apropos.

12-6

3192

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:43:03 pm »

4th day in a row for Lidge, he might be a little weary

Brownie commented that he thought he heard Lidge wouldn't be available.

3193

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:41:06 pm »

Shit, the Yankees beat the Pirates. Losing to the Pirates would have put the NY media into full melt-down mode.

Clemens makes his last minor league start against the Pirates tomorrow.

3194

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:32:30 pm »

Seriously... is Sampson ROY-eligible?

He started in early June last year.

3195

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:27:23 pm »

reverT doin his job.

3196

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:21:15 pm »

The umpiring behind home plate in major league baseball has been AW-FUCKING-FUL.

The Bonds K at MMPUS where he gave some serious shit to Laz should have earned him an ejection.

3197

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:17:04 pm »

All that for one stinkin' run.

Yeah, this game isn't close to over.

3198

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:11:06 pm »

Right hip flexor strain for Gunther, per JD.

3199

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:10:02 pm »

Burke to CF, Loretta to 2b, Lamb to 1b?

And how amazing is it to see a team with worse fundamentals than the Astros?  Oh wait, they have a certifiably insane asshole managing them.  Cancel my surprise.

Pitcher not backing up the plate is fucking awesome stupid.

3200

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:08:36 pm »

FUCK!!  Now what?

Burke to center I guess. Loretta to 2B, Lamb to 1st.

3201

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:05:20 pm »

Luke gives haircuts to teammates in his timeoff.

3202

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 09:03:03 pm »

Pence pulled up. Groin injury.           

3203

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:55:23 pm »

What is Stubing?

Sticky in TZ. Post of the week award. You vote by reporting a post to moderator. Then the mods meet in pravata's mother's basement to vote.

3204

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:50:28 pm »

He rounded the base and thought it had been caught. didn't look like loafing to me

He rounded the base and took his eye off the ball and started to head to the dugout. He assumed.

3205

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:49:30 pm »

Ensberg owes AE for the pick me up.

3206

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:48:00 pm »

Ensberg fucking loafing. Took his eyes off the ball and started to trot off the field.

Fucking. Hate. It.

3207

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:45:40 pm »

Sorry, I've been distracted here lately. What the fuck is Stubing?

Post of the week award.

3208

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:30:00 pm »

Gunther pwned Asswipe.

3209

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:29:20 pm »

Thanks to JD for alerting me to it...Chris Sampson is in fact 2nd in the majors (before tonight) in fewest pitches per inning.  Only some schmuck rookie (Greg Maddux) is lower.

But, of course, Sampson's stuff isn't very good and he doesn't have much of an arm, so I'm sure we'll trade him or have him fight for the 5 spot again next season.

I figured you were the one that sent JD an email.

3210

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:16:07 pm »

I'd rather see Scott in RF and Loretta at 2nd.

You got half your wish.

3211

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:15:03 pm »

Brownie just points out that ball 1 to Asswipe was about the same height as the pitch to Lance.

3212

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:12:16 pm »

what happened? my two radio stations are carrying the aggie game, and the "Brazos Bombers" of the texas colliegate league

Breaker up and in, around the letters, for strike 3 (Lance RH). Lance is pissed, starts giving the ump lip. Ump points to dugout, Lance steps up, Lee gets in between. Garner runs out, collects Lance, who then yells over his shoulder and gets the hook.

Garner gets his moneys worth, tossed as well.

3213

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:10:14 pm »

the pitch was BS, but lance has to know that the league has their eye on him.

Lance has to know when the ump is telling him to get back in the dugout, he needs to get in the fucking dugout.

3214

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 08:04:17 pm »

Berkman needs an adjustment.

3215

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 07:48:50 pm »

I'm pretty sure Scott could provide more offense against a leftie then Burke.

Scott v. LHP in 07 - .412/.474/.706 - 19PA
Career - .284/.404/.446 - 89PA

Burke v. LHP in 07 - .292/.433./.417 - 31PA
Career - .291/.358/.414 - 277PA

3216

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 07:42:05 pm »

Except for Munson...

Yah, my bad.

3217

Talk Zone / Re: Astros at White Sox/Cubs – Get a Haircut, and Get a Real Job

« on: June 08, 2007, 07:39:21 pm »

Holy crap, I didn't even use the term "Asswipe" one time.

BTW, it's Mullet Night

Mullet Junky

3218

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 07:35:36 pm »

Its an all righty night for Danks.

3219

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 07:12:52 pm »

Bidge leadoff bomb.

That guy is killing the Astros.

3220

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Astros on the South Side - 6/8/07

« on: June 08, 2007, 06:29:25 pm »

Houston

Biggio, DH
Pence, CF
Berkman, RF
Lee, LF
Loretta, 1B
Ensberg, 3B
Burke, 2B
Munson, C
Everett, SS

Chi White Sox

Owens, CF
Iguchi, 2B
Thome, DH
Konerko, 1B
Pierzynski, C
Fields, 3B
Mackowiak, LF
Terrero, RF
Uribe, SS

3221

Talk Zone / Re: Astros at White Sox/Cubs – Get a Haircut, and Get a Real Job

« on: June 08, 2007, 02:39:48 pm »

Q. What do you say to Michael Barrett when he has a black eye and a fat lip?
A. Nothing. You already told him twice.

Fantastic.

3222

Talk Zone / Re: Brad Ausmus writes an article on his favorite people

« on: June 08, 2007, 01:37:42 pm »

Just ask my Astros teammate Lance Berkman, which I did recently. He remembered a story he'd observed that involved a teammate whose daughter was having some health problems. "Once, he was trying to tell a couple of us how he'd been to the emergency room with her the night before," Berkman said. "All of a sudden a beat writer comes over and inserts himself in the conversation. The guy didn't want the media to know about his situation. But it ended up in the newspaper. We need boundaries."

JdJO?

3223

Talk Zone / Re: I'm betting Lidge to closer, wheels back to set up

« on: June 08, 2007, 11:46:33 am »

The f this and f that and all the name calling is totally uncalled for.  Such behavior might be common for a bunch of drunks in a trailer park.  I certainly don't think it is a way to welcome a newcomer who is a huge fan of the Astros.  

Leave. Seriously. Nobody cares what you think about this place. And nobody wants to hear you whine.

3224

Talk Zone / Re: negligable force meets the object on casters

« on: June 08, 2007, 11:39:18 am »

You mean the "Astros Traveling Horse Shit and Dr Phil's Feel Good Tonic Show"?  Step right up, get your magic elixir, one bottle, one dollar!  Triple A callups feel like Cy Young! Get your first homerun of the season!  But don't take my word for it, here's genuine, notarized, bonefide, testimonials, take this one from Willy Taveras! "Made me strong, like a Luke Scott omelet!"  or So Taguchi! "I bought a case!"

Don't forget Colorado renaming the upper tank in right field 'Matsui Land'.

3225

Talk Zone / Re: negligable force meets the object on casters

« on: June 08, 2007, 11:34:06 am »

The last few weeks is the worst I've seen the White Sox play in a long time. The Astros are visiting at the right time and should easily win 2 of 3 if not sweep.

Have you watched the Astros recently? 4-16 over their last 20.

3226

Talk Zone / Re: Carlos Lee

« on: June 08, 2007, 11:26:31 am »

Last Sunday Purpura was saying how he's glad Soriano didn't accept his offer and they were able to get Lee.  Also, the Giants offered Lee even more money.  So "bad contract", for us reality hostages, is not accurate.

What the fuck does it matter to any of us if its a bad contract? Every contract is bad when the player is fucking up, and every contract is a steal when a guy is doing good. This logic causes contracts to change from bad to good from year to year, and sometimes within the same year... see Bagwell, Jeff; Lidge, Brad; Berkman, Lance.

3227

Talk Zone / Re: Carlos Lee

« on: June 08, 2007, 11:17:21 am »

1- It is simply amazing that the guy is 4 RBI behind AROD and plays on this team.    
 2- Lance better enjoy the next year or so at 1st, because Carlos won't last more than another year in left.
 3-  Bad contract

When did you become such a moaner?

3228

Talk Zone / Re: Carlos Lee

« on: June 08, 2007, 11:16:14 am »

He's given up at least one triple this year by not hustling into the corner at Minute Maid...

I have noticed recently that he is hustling pretty good on the balls down into the corner. Maybe somebody mentioned it, and maybe somebody will mention these baserunning flubs.

The thing when he returns to the base (whether it be a ground out, flyball, etc.) where he turns his whole body around and kind of shuffles to the base with his head down is especially irritating.

3229

Talk Zone / Re: OK, for arguments sake, Purpura is inept

« on: June 08, 2007, 11:11:38 am »

He's got to replace Williams says Milo.  Forget the 1 1/2 years he has on his contract.   Who are the Astros going to throw out there every 5th?  Albers?  No, get going Purpula, make a trade, everybody's doing it, it's easy ...

Cardinals General manager Walt Jocketty said Thursday that he is interested in upgrading (the starting pitching) but remains a hostage to reality.

"There's nothing available," Jocketty said. "Who is going to give up starting pitching now?"

"We don't have much choice," Jocketty said. "We tried to talk to other clubs about a deal. There's not any starting pitching available."

"I think when people talk about getting another starter, that's unrealistic," manager Tony La Russa said. "I mean, how many teams are looking for starting pitching? ...

The Cardinals were intrigued by righthander Tomo Ohka, whom Toronto designated for assignment Thursday
Link

Maybe the Astros can send Woody to the Co-ards. For Pujols.

3230

Talk Zone / Re: Question about an old rule regarding winning pitcher

« on: June 07, 2007, 08:48:17 pm »

10.17(b)(c)

(2) four innings of a game that lasts five innings on defense, then the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the relief pitcher, if there is only one relief pitcher, or the relief pitcher who, in the official scorer’s judgment was the most effective, if there is more than one relief pitcher.
Rule 10.17(b) Comment: It is the intent of Rule 10.17(b) that a relief pitcher pitch at least one complete inning or pitch when a crucial out is made, within the context of the game (including the score), in order to be credited as the winning pitcher. If the first relief pitcher pitches effectively, the official scorer should not presumptively credit that pitcher with the win, because the rule requires that the win be credited to the pitcher who was the most effective, and a subsequent relief pitcher may have been most effective. The official scorer, in determining which relief pitcher was the most effective, should consider the number of runs, earned runs and base runners given up by each relief pitcher and the context of the game at the time of each relief pitcher’s appearance. If two or more relief pitchers were similarly effective, the official scorer should give the presumption to the earlier pitcher as the winning pitcher.
(c) The official scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the official scorer.
Rule 10.17(c) Comment: The official scorer generally should, but is not required to, consider the appearance of a relief pitcher to be ineffective and brief if such relief pitcher pitches less than one inning and allows two or more earned runs to score (even if such runs are charged to a previous pitcher). Rule 10.17(b) Comment provides guidance on choosing the winning pitcher from among several succeeding relief pitchers.

http://www.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_scorer_10.jsp

3231

Talk Zone / Re: I'm betting Lidge to closer, wheels back to set up

« on: June 07, 2007, 08:37:18 pm »

Paging Spack...

3232

Talk Zone / Re: I'm betting Lidge to closer, wheels back to set up

« on: June 07, 2007, 07:09:43 pm »

Funny, nice vocabulary.  Do you know anything about baseball?

Guard your spleen.

3233

Talk Zone / Re: I'm betting Lidge to closer, wheels back to set up

« on: June 07, 2007, 06:58:43 pm »

Can you actually think?

Take a hike fucktard.

3234

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 04:52:24 pm »

On Lee getting HBP - more bad blood, or just a random HBP? Gameday doesn't help here.

Pitch got away.

3235

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 04:51:39 pm »

clean hit?

Yep, smoked into right.

3236

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 04:51:14 pm »

What, are the astro's still playing?

I thought it was only BOS-OAK

Carlos on first, grounder to short, feed to Matsui is wide and he drops it. Carlos had curled off instead of running to the bag. Couldn't get over to the bag before Matsui corraled the ball.

3237

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 04:48:52 pm »

Carlos Lee makes another poor baserunning play.

3238

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 04:47:41 pm »

Oh well, fuck Schilling.

3239

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 04:37:55 pm »

No Corpas-Lee matchup in the ninth.

3240

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 04:26:52 pm »

That Miller "Chill" stuff is fucking awful.  Don't be fooled.  I saw "chilada style" and "salt" and thought "Hmmm...maybe."  It's nothing like a michelada.  It's a sprite.

Agreed. Don't be fooled, stick with Miller Lite.

3241

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 04:25:26 pm »

Marcus Giles would've needed a jet pack to catch that thing.

He is no more disappointed than the rest of us.

3242

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:44:36 pm »

Lance's right cleat got stuck on the swing where he lost his bat. He was walking gingerly on the right foot afterwards.

3243

Talk Zone / Re: reverT

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:36:04 pm »

And Borkowski.  Long relief hasn't been a big need.

BTW, your note that reverT is paid for is absolutely fair.

Yeah, it hasn't been. Wandy isn't on his annual fade, yet.

The guy in the postgame last night (Hohlfield) thinks Woodrow should be in the pen, Albers should be in the rotation and Moehler should be at home. I was wondering if he was having one of those audio problems where he couldn't hear himself talk.

3244

Talk Zone / Re: reverT

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:29:18 pm »

Add Randolph, DFA Moehler is OK by me.

Long relief to Borkowski and who?

3245

Talk Zone / Re: reverT

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:27:19 pm »

They are cheap, readily available, and have shown effective at RR.

reverT has been effective before, and may be again in the future, but I prefer the Hunsicker school of thought that relivers are fungible and unpredictable.

reverT is paid for, not injured, and has also shown to be highly effective in the majors. Doesn't seem like now is the time to make a change. Maybe add one of the other guys, but not cut bait on reverT.

3246

Talk Zone / Re: reverT

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:22:24 pm »

ask the original poster

so who would you have as the situational lefty?

3247

Talk Zone / Re: reverT

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:20:22 pm »

Randolph and MacLemore are reasonable alternatives

Why are they reasonable?

3248

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:11:53 pm »

Just wondering, but why wasn't Ausmus headed home on Loretta's single?  Did he have to wait to make sure that Atkins didn't catch it?

Yeah, it was a hot sinking liner. Err, he had to make sure it cleared the infield.

3249

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:11:12 pm »

thanks... I'm too lazy to do the math/projection work.

I did it for someone else the other day, so it was handy.

3250

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 03:09:54 pm »

Random question...

Anyone know how many more AB's Gunther needs to qualify for the "league leaders" list for batting average?

He'll qualify around game 100 v. LAD, assuming 4 plate appearances per game until then.

3251

Talk Zone / Re: Stark's latest Astro-related tidbits

« on: June 07, 2007, 02:58:14 pm »

I was over at Astros.com, and thought I'd check out the message board (don't ask why).  Anyways, they've come up with a good trade to snag Saltalamacchia.  Lamb and Burke for 'ol Salty.  Seems pretty reasonable to me.

That pajama party will only damage your brain.

3252

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 02:55:40 pm »

In case nobody else got the memo, Josh Fogg sucks pretty severely.

And to think, the Astros could have gotten perfected by Buchholz today.

3253

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 02:54:10 pm »

Fogg is not long for this game.

3254

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 02:51:43 pm »

Goddamn Berkman crushed that pitch. Yay!

Yeah, he took it up to the Matsui seats.

3255

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Rockies rubber game - 6/7/07

« on: June 07, 2007, 02:34:42 pm »

Don't you imagine that move would be shortly followed by his death?

No, but possibly the death of a nearby priest or two.

3256

Talk Zone / Re: The Jennings trade looks Bagwellesque

« on: June 07, 2007, 12:36:20 pm »

This isn't 10th Grade Remedial English...

This place is very much like 10th Grade Remedial English.

3257

Talk Zone / Re: reverT

« on: June 07, 2007, 12:05:58 pm »

i'm simply implying that he was due for a serious regression after last year and that it shouldn't come as a surprise that the regression is occuring. 

do you make your wagers on who is 'due'?

3258

Talk Zone / Re: Milo needs to reconsider

« on: June 07, 2007, 12:03:33 pm »

It's obvious someone within this organization believes in Burke.  Maybe the trip to AAA changes things up for Burke...at least that's what I'd guess Gar would have to be thinking if he gave him another shot.  Burke wouldn't be the first player fail, be sent to the minors, and then succeed after a callup back to the majors.

Burke in center as a starter is over. Unless someone gets an injury.

3259

Talk Zone / Re: reverT

« on: June 07, 2007, 11:35:50 am »

I've read Purp's quotes.  Then I re-read them.

And I can't, for the life of me, figure the connection between what he said and what you wrote without including mind-altering drugs in the mix.

That is why he is a handicapper and you are just an accountant.

3260

Talk Zone / Re: Milo needs to reconsider

« on: June 07, 2007, 11:30:15 am »

What about Burke?  I wasn't a big fan of playing Pence in RF, but if Scott doesn't show some consistency soon is there a chance that Gar might consider playing Burke in CF and moving Pence to RF?  If yes, then I'd assume Ensberg would be reinserted into the lineup (again with the faint hope that he will actually slug the ball) moving Loretta back to the bench.  Ensberg has hit a few homeruns lately.  Also, once Bidge hits 3000, you replace him with Loretta and insert him behind Burke in the #2 spot and hope for the best.

What? They already conducted this experiment and it failed.

3261

Talk Zone / Re: Bucholz still starting tomorrow?

« on: June 07, 2007, 12:00:37 am »

Did not get to see or listen to the game, and the GZ wasn't much help, so I looked at Gameday----Bucholz pitched one inning and gets the win??  Has anyone heard if he is still the probable starter for tomorrow?

Fogg, just off the DL.

3262

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 11:08:28 pm »

SHITFUCK!!!!, this team sucks

fuck off frontrunner.

3263

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:53:12 pm »

Puts a lot of pressure on the hitters when the pitchers are giving up so many runs.

Ouch.

3264

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:50:38 pm »

Brownie on the up and in to Holliday from Lidge - 'That didn't hit him either.'

3265

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:43:20 pm »

JD - 'Vintage Berkman'

3266

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:42:11 pm »

Willy just really wants a mustache ride...  He told me so. (I just don't sport a mustace at the moment, so i'll gladly let one of you guys fill in...)

Two things: 1) why are you offering mustache rides to other men? 2) why are you offering when you don't actually have a mustache?

NTTAWWT

3267

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:36:29 pm »

You're being a ridiculous homer here.

Leave me out of this.

3268

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:36:07 pm »

Okay, is there any sort of logic in Bucknor at all?  BTW - the more important question, is there a double play in that arm of Qualls tonight?  His sinker ain't sinking tonight.

Willy running. Better be sharp.

Infield in, nevermind.

3269

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:29:20 pm »

You mean like how Woody took one right under the chin and there was not even a warning?

Applying logic to CB is a losing proposition.

3270

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:23:15 pm »

The Colorado broadcast doesn't seem to know it didn't come close to hitting him.

We already established they shouldn't have a job in baseball.

3271

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:20:32 pm »

It looked like Ausmus was arguing that he leaned back into the pitch.

Ball didn't hit him.

3272

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:17:54 pm »

Yes you can.  You just can't fake to 1B.

You're right.

3273

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:12:22 pm »

That's what I was getting at. You can't fake to first.

You can't fake to an uncovered base.

Unless you are doing the lame 3rd to 1st move, which doesn't make any sense.

3274

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:07:04 pm »

That was such fucking greatness. Perfection.

3275

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:06:04 pm »

A little return from CB on the first pitch to Willy.

3276

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:04:49 pm »

Thanks Lance. Glad you were in that meeting.

3277

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:01:42 pm »

Is it just me, or has Brad Ausmus turned into a catcher running down the first base line?

He has lost a step or two.

3278

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:59:05 pm »

Meh.  As much as I would like to blame that on crap with feet, I rewound it and it was close.  No argument here.

Close to what? Below the letters? Sure. What he has been calling all night? Not close.

3279

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:56:03 pm »

HOW THE FUCK WAS THE 3-1 A STRIKE?

3280

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:49:30 pm »

How about some consequences for umpires who mistakenly believe themselves to be part of the show?

The Crawford thing was egregious, and not his first time... and its sad to think that is the level of slapdickery required to get an official out of a league.

3281

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:46:02 pm »

I'll say 3, he appeals gets it down to 2 but serves it when he's getting hot.

I thought you didn't make predictions.

3282

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:43:36 pm »

Hadnt seen it, "there will be consequences."  http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2895948

Good to see the Chronicle is all over that.

3283

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:33:54 pm »

WHAT?! First pitch in there to Helton was a fucking strike.

3284

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:26:40 pm »

I think he was looking home as he went to the bag, and when he saw that Lee wasn't going anywhere he decided to try for the out at 2nd.

Well, Lee did his normal shit where he completely turns his body around and kinda shuffles with his head down back to the bag.

Piss. Poor.

3285

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:24:54 pm »

Bidge takin a nap out there?

3286

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:17:40 pm »

Jeff Huson says Loretta was tagged on the knee.  Like hell, that tag was right on the cup.

Close eye on his cup? NTTAWWT

3287

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:17:05 pm »

Alright, what the FUCK is Carlos Lee doing?  Watching a double play?  ARRRRGGHHHH!!!!!!

Carlos Lee is a shitty baserunner.

3288

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:11:41 pm »

Cause theyre pissed.  They were promised hover cars. Where's the hover cars?!

Jet. Pack.

3289

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:04:00 pm »

I didn't name the food, just join the fun eating it.

Nevermind.

3290

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 09:01:18 pm »

Standard lunch for Jr. High (the little mom and pop grocery store was right next door to the school): Summer sausage, saltines and a coca-cola.  Every day.

Summer is a funny name for a guy.

3291

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:59:39 pm »

Agreed, but if his nose bleed drives in more runs than Ausmus's vaginal hemmoridge, i might consider playing the dude more than once a week. JUST SAYIN!!

I didn't know Ausmus was primarily responsible for driving in runs from the 8 hole.

3292

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:55:47 pm »

Dammit.  Walks are the last thing you want in this park.

2 out walks fucking suck.

3293

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:51:56 pm »

Even the vanilla ones.

Mmmm...Banana.

3294

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:46:18 pm »

HEY, dont you be talking bad about Moon Pies!

Moon Pies are delicious. FACT!

3295

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:44:56 pm »

I like my original explanation, ass covered assholes with creamy ass filing.

Is that a Moon Pie?

3296

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:42:08 pm »

Only think I can think of is that you have to announce a double switch when it happens.  You can't decide after play has begun that you want to move players in the batting order.  So if Garner didn't announce to the umpires that he was substituting Lidge for Berkman before Lidge started warming up, he can't do it later.

That is what JD guessed happen. But Gar did go to the umpire to make the change, JD thought.

3297

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:37:53 pm »

Because theyre ass covered assholes with creamy ass filling.

Mmmmm....creamy ass filling.

3298

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:36:29 pm »

Wind saved Woody there.

3299

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros @ Mountains - 6.6.07

« on: June 06, 2007, 08:33:57 pm »

CB Bucknor is up to his old tricks of allowing a wide corner.  All hitters are on notice.

Yeah, but I have also noticed the camera angle from center is wider than other parks... so things look even wider to the viewer.

3300

Talk Zone / Re: Berkman not using his head

« on: June 06, 2007, 06:25:24 pm »

Pointing out flaws in your wife's actions is not conductive to a long term marriage.

probably pooductive

3301

Talk Zone / Re: So.......when LANCE BERKMAN hits EXTRA BASE HITS.......the Astros can lead ...

« on: June 06, 2007, 02:04:40 pm »

Now, if you want to go out and prove that if leadoff doesn't get on base, the Astros lose, that may be interesting as well.

I'd also be interested in this, if TenThirty is doing the work.

3302

Talk Zone / Re: Berkman not using his head

« on: June 06, 2007, 02:01:12 pm »

According to one of Charlie Palillo's listeners yesterday, Lou Gherig's disease might be the culprit. "It would explain everything."

Is his shit on podcast? If so, do you know approximately when this was said?

3303

Talk Zone / Re: Berkman not using his head

« on: June 06, 2007, 01:50:07 pm »

If Berkman is hurt, is there any benefit in hiding it this long?

Who is he hiding it from? The club? Doesn't seem like it. The fans? Maybe, but that isn't really important.

Also, the length of the injury is only speculative. Could be recent, but maybe not:

(Berkman 5/31)I haven't felt comfortable the entire season. It has been so bad at times that I've wondered if there was something wrong, if I had an injury I didn't know about.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/justice/baseball/4853136.html

3304

Talk Zone / Re: Jennings wants 12 million per?

« on: June 06, 2007, 12:01:39 pm »

Why are folks trying to rewrite history as if Houston knew they would be in this position today when they made the trade?

Because Ringolsby reported (and inbred JdJO repeated) that Jennings had elbow problems last year so severe that he didn't throw between starts. Nevermind that such a report was based on nothing more than the emanations of Ringolsby's ass.

3305

Talk Zone / Re: Place your bets!

« on: June 06, 2007, 11:42:52 am »

Agree.  Holliday, 1st inning with Tavaras on 2nd after single, SB, one out.  1st is open then.  Ball is then handed to Moehler to close out the inning and game.

Moehler? I'd take my chances with Woody.

3306

Talk Zone / Re: Jennings wants 12 million per?

« on: June 06, 2007, 11:10:38 am »

Dammit, now I'l have to listen over lunch.

Starts 21 minutes in. Good luck.

3307

Talk Zone / Re: Berkman not using his head

« on: June 06, 2007, 11:08:24 am »

3 tops.

Sheffield got 3 for arguing balls and strikes and throwing part of his broken bat at the umpire (allegedly). I don't think Berkman's incident rises to that.

3308

Talk Zone / Re: Jennings wants 12 million per?

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:58:06 am »

Very much appreciate anyone who can listen to the locals without bursting a blood vessel.  I can't do it anymore, but this was important to know about.  The two sides haven't been talking contract for several weeks now.  And it seems only reasonable that anyone would be concerned about Jennings elbow.  Although, he's never had any trouble before.  And 12, in this market?  I don't think that's "unreasonable".

Gil Meche - 5/55
Lilly - 4/40
Marquis - 3/21

3309

Talk Zone / Re: Jennings wants 12 million per?

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:53:23 am »

This is not a wise thing to say publicly.

That said... getting Woody kicked out of a Coors start might not be a horrible idea.

He just insinuated it, nothing specific. The two hosts were spoojing on themselves over the idea. Purpura reminded them that nothing may happen tonight... might be the next series.

As the GM, or manager, or whoever, I think you have to let it be known that if a shitbag pitcher throws at your best player over a personal beef that it will dealt with it on the field. Whether it ever happens or not.

3310

Talk Zone / Re: Jennings wants 12 million per?

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:46:35 am »

EMT's are standing by.  Thanks for taking one for the team.

Purpura knows for a fact that Lee and the shitbag pitcher had a beef that went back to the WBC. Garner will take care of it on the field - insinuating that someone is gonna get dotted... but not in a close game situation.

On Jennings - No discussions about contract since spring training. Most important thing is to get him healthy. He is injured and we have to go through the season to see where he is and then talk dollars. Jennings should understand that. You sign a player to help the team, not to justify a trade. We had to give up good players, probably too much, but Astros needed a number two. Have to evaluate his injury, no commitment until we know he can pitch next year. No committment until after the season.

3311

Talk Zone / Re: Berkman not using his head

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:36:59 am »

How many games is he likely to be suspended for?

Can't find a good article, but probably 1 if any.

3312

Talk Zone / Re: Jennings wants 12 million per?

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:35:28 am »

If you dare: You can listen to the show "on demand" to review what was said by Purpura:

Davies and Dukes Show... be prepared to lose a few brain cells over this one

Listening now.

3313

Talk Zone / Re: Jennings wants 12 million per?

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:21:54 am »

He said that they had absolutely zero intention to talk to Jennings about a contract extension. Said they view him as an injury risk and they wouldn't throw good money after bad.

Purpura said this? Exactly?

3314

Talk Zone / Berkman not using his head

« on: June 06, 2007, 10:14:44 am »

As reported in the GZ, Berkman returned to the field during the 9th inning bench clearing:

While that only landed him fines, Berkman faces a likely suspension for returning to the field in the ninth inning after the benches cleared during the Lee-Corpas fracas. He was impossible to miss, in shorts and a sleeveless shirt, his back wrapped in an Ace bandage.

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_6070168

3315

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Rukkakes - 6/5/07

« on: June 05, 2007, 11:18:14 pm »

Who is Glenn Wilson?  Anyone?

A man who should have someone else dress him.

3316

Talk Zone / Re: "Dear diary:"

« on: June 05, 2007, 11:16:27 pm »

In the GZ

JD- As Luke writes in his pitch log:

"Dear Diary:

After my good buddy Carlos got drilled, I felt compelled to hit on into the seats to provide us with a little extra cushion.

See ya tomorrow,

Luke

PS Just to make it interesting, I hit this one to left field."

3317

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Rukkakes - 6/5/07

« on: June 05, 2007, 11:14:14 pm »

http://images.google.com/imghp?tab=wi

Type 'My Little Pony Baby Quackers'

It's so easy!  Trade them with your friends!

Why was this going to be funny?

3318

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Rukkakes - 6/5/07

« on: June 05, 2007, 11:09:20 pm »

That's crap.  He's drawing his favorite My Little Pony.  (Baby Quackers - http://www.geocities.com/ginny_2001_2001/1986/1986.html#twins )

OWA seems to have crashed that geocities site.

3319

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Rukkakes - 6/5/07

« on: June 05, 2007, 11:03:41 pm »

JD- As Luke writes in his pitch log:

"Dear Diarie:

After my good buddy Carlos got drilled, I felt compelled to hit on into the seats to provide us with a little extra cushion.

See ya tomorrow,

Luke

PS Just to make it interesting, I hit this one to left field."

3320

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Rukkakes - 6/5/07

« on: June 05, 2007, 10:45:16 pm »

Some 12-6 slider action from Lidge.

3321

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Rukkakes - 6/5/07

« on: June 05, 2007, 10:42:34 pm »

Oh goodie, CB Bucknor tomorrow.

Err... 'Crap with Feet'

3322

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Astros at Rukkakes - 6/5/07

« on: June 05, 2007, 07:40:19 pm »

Houston

Biggio, 2B
Pence, CF
Berkman, 1B
Lee, LF
Loretta, 3B
Scott, RF
Everett, SS
Ausmus, C
Rodriguez, P

Colorado

Taveras, CF
Matsui, 2B
Holliday, LF
Helton, 1B
Atkins, 3B
Hawpe, RF
Tulowitzki, SS
Torrealba, C
Hirsh, P

3323

Talk Zone / Re: Thunder Pants named ROY for May

« on: June 05, 2007, 01:36:55 pm »

omigod.  an alexyss k. tylor reference on OWA.  outstanding!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_aUzZTRa1Ck&mode=related&search=

Courtesy TheWalrusIsAl

3324

Talk Zone / Re: Thunder Pants named ROY for May

« on: June 04, 2007, 06:29:12 pm »

somethin ive always wondered.  who votes for in-season awards like this? 

JD and Brownie often have their voting forms during games. I guess folks like that.

3325

Talk Zone / Re: Okay, you get a vote

« on: June 04, 2007, 05:10:39 pm »

Burke eating a Frito Pie or doing a header into the CF turf?

With the ball about 4 feet away.

3326

Talk Zone / Re: Question concerning the "Infield Fly Rule"

« on: June 04, 2007, 09:47:14 am »

An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.
When it seems apparent that a batted ball will be an Infield Fly, the umpire shall immediately declare “Infield Fly” for the benefit of the runners. If the ball is near the baselines, the umpire shall declare “Infield Fly, if Fair.”
The ball is alive and runners may advance at the risk of the ball being caught, or retouch and advance after the ball is touched, the same as on any fly ball. If the hit becomes a foul ball, it is treated the same as any foul.
If a declared Infield Fly is allowed to fall untouched to the ground, and bounces foul before passing first or third base, it is a foul ball. If a declared Infield Fly falls untouched to the ground outside the baseline, and bounces fair before passing first or third base, it is an Infield Fly.
Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder—not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire’s judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire’s judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.
When an infield fly rule is called, runners may advance at their own risk. If on an infield fly rule, the infielder intentionally drops a fair ball, the ball remains in play despite the provisions of Rule 6.05 (L). The infield fly rule takes precedence.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/definition_terms_2.jsp

Enacted in 1895 to prevent an infielder from purposely dropping a pop up in order to create a double or triple play situation.

3327

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Hunter Pence Went Up the Hill to Catch a Pale of Pooholes

« on: June 03, 2007, 03:02:42 pm »

0-9 vs franklin?  Maybe I spoke too soon.

That just means he is due.

3328

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Hunter Pence Went Up the Hill to Catch a Pale of Pooholes

« on: June 03, 2007, 02:56:29 pm »

Would've been ugly if they'd thrown home, for sure.

Luke would have been out by about 50 feet.

3329

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Hunter Pence Went Up the Hill to Catch a Pale of Pooholes

« on: June 03, 2007, 02:51:33 pm »

Mansolino should be fired immediately.

3330

Talk Zone / Re: CLEMENS SCRATCHED FROM START

« on: June 02, 2007, 05:54:21 pm »

You have to wonder what would cause an otherwise healthy 44-year-old to have a fatigued right groin.

I bet he really wishes there were three of him right now. At least three groins.

3331

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 05:14:31 pm »

Who are the Cards pitching tomorrow?

If there was a series preview, I could tell you.

Looper v. Jennings


.....

Wandy v. Hirsh on Tuesday

3332

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 05:09:16 pm »

Sampson has really settled down and is kicking major ass right now.

Sinker has gotten very heavy as the game moved on.

3333

Talk Zone / Re: Dugout fight @ Wrigley

« on: June 02, 2007, 05:08:06 pm »

Oh yeah, this was the first out at third.

Earlier, the pitcher had stretched a double and made the third out at third.

3334

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:54:47 pm »

Groin is what is being reported so far... more updates after the commercial break

yankees.com says fatigued right groin.

3335

Talk Zone / Re: CLEMENS SCRATCHED FROM START

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:53:48 pm »

Roger Clemens has a fatigued right groin and will not pitch in the Yankees' upcoming series against the White Sox, the team announced Saturday.

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070602&content_id=2000937&vkey=news_nyy&fext=.jsp&c_id=nyy

3336

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:51:13 pm »

They just announced during the Yank-Sox game back on that Clemens has been scratched from Monday's start. Maybe out two weeks.  Sorry, but I hae a smile on my face.

Back? Groin?

3337

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:50:33 pm »

The Astros have failed to score lots of runs against lots of shitty pitchers.  Be grateful for what you get!

I'm grateful.

Kip misses so often and so badly that he really shouldn't be pitching in the majors.

3338

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:49:04 pm »

Girardi just explained the principle that baserunners should run as fast as possible on two outs.

3339

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:42:40 pm »

Kip Wells is so fucking awful. The Astros should have about 12 runs by now.

3340

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:40:02 pm »

Luke needs to do that about 2-3 times a week, from here on out. Doubles are fine.

3341

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 04:27:39 pm »

Kip Wells is a shitty pitcher.

3342

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 03:54:20 pm »

FUCK! Throw was right fucking there.

3343

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 03:53:13 pm »

That was all Lee with the decoy.

3344

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 03:47:16 pm »

Joe Girardi just told me he "really believes Craig Biggio is a Hall of Famer."

No shit, Joe?  He'll have 3000 hits and be in some whack club with only Hank Aaron and Tris Speaker or something, 37 years with the same team and was the best 2B in the NL for a decade. 

You think he'll make it?  Really?

Is that who that teabagger is? I have been wondering.

3345

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 03:30:18 pm »

AE, solo shot to the boxes

2-2

Jumped on a first pitch fastball, right below the belt and on the inner third.

3346

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 03:08:43 pm »

Good lord, Milo called Bidge "The Kid from Jersey".  This is going to be painful.  Anyone around to do some PBP?

I can't today. Sorry.

3347

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 03:08:00 pm »

FOX broadcasters say that Pence was recalled. Who are these fucktards anyway?

3348

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 03:06:13 pm »

Biggio was all hustle on that one.

3349

Talk Zone / Re: Dugout fight @ Wrigley

« on: June 02, 2007, 02:24:36 pm »

Piniella melt down in the 8th. Kickin dirt all over the third base umpire. Kicked his hat. Gets some more. Then kicks his hat 2 more times around the field.

Play was ball got away from the catcher, runner tries to advance but gets put out. Throw was there in plenty of time.

Bleachers throw all their trash on the field, Braves have to leave the field.

Froemming came over to stop him, Lou pushed him away. Some other big mother fucker (umpire) came over got in between Lou and the 3rd base ump.

3350

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Coards at Astros - 6/2/07

« on: June 02, 2007, 02:21:16 pm »

St. Louis

Kennedy, 2B
Spiezio, 3B
Pujols, 1B
Edmonds, CF
Encarnacion, RF
Ludwick, LF
Bennett, C
Miles, SS
Wells, P

Houston

Biggio, 2B
Pence, CF
Berkman, 1B
Lee, LF
Loretta, 3B
Scott, RF
Munson, C
Everett, SS
Sampson, P

3351

Talk Zone / Re: Dugout fight @ Wrigley

« on: June 02, 2007, 01:40:40 pm »

Maybe he should just keep his mask on when he's in the dugout. At least when Zambrano pitches. Barrett should look awesome if he's in the lineup today.

Not in the lineup, but the Cubs are losing.

3352

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 09:58:51 pm »

Spezio taking advantage of Gunther's noodle.

3353

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 09:56:58 pm »

Fuck the Jakes.

3354

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 09:56:25 pm »

Yup, that was an out, and it wasn't even a difficult call: the runner was off the bag while the tag was on him. But that's the way this season is going for the 'Stros.

Nah, its this de-emphasis by the umps of making the runner actually execute the slide. JD is always saying shit like 'if you beat the throw, you are going to get that call.'

3355

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 09:51:05 pm »

If Mo holds the tag, I think he gets an out.

If the ump rubs the pigeon shit out of his eyes, he makes the right call.

3356

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 08:52:41 pm »

Holy shit. He mashed that one.

3357

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 08:37:38 pm »

Gunther takes a good hack on that hook.

3358

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 08:30:51 pm »

And Edmonds. Somehow he can be hitting .090 against the rest of the league, and he's still an Astro-killerl. Now he walks.

He was loafing to 3rd. Wish Scott woulda nailed him.

3359

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 08:22:35 pm »

I grow tired of Spezio.

3360

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 07:59:40 pm »

Luke Scott is not very graceful out there.

3361

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 07:53:04 pm »

Wainright remembered to throw Gunther curve balls.

3362

Talk Zone / Re: Dugout fight @ Wrigley

« on: June 01, 2007, 07:51:48 pm »

Brownie reports that the slapfest continued in the clubhouse and Zambrano busted Barrett's vagina lip. Ended up in the hospital.

3363

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 07:47:29 pm »

What was Ensberg doing?

Bidge is all thumbs in the field lately.

3364

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 07:33:15 pm »

I'm surprised Wainwright didn't walk him and pitch to Lee for the dp

I thought he was trying to... then it turned in to more of the fact he couldn't get a fastball over.

3365

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Jakes @ Good Guys - 6/1/07

« on: June 01, 2007, 07:28:34 pm »

Berkman was fucking robbed on the fourth pitch of the at bat. Changed the inning.

3366

Talk Zone / Satan thinks Weaver is the missing piece for the Co-ards

« on: June 01, 2007, 07:27:27 pm »

Last year, another longtime Boras client, Jeff Weaver, was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals after a poor start with the Angels in Anaheim. Weaver was dominant in the postseason, and the Cardinals won the World Series, but St. Louis offered Weaver only a one-year, $5 million contract—which Boras found insulting. “That’s what you’d offer a relief pitcher,” he says.

Weaver eventually signed with the Seattle Mariners for $8.3 million. “You have to respect that teams have a right to make their own decisions,” Boras says, before turning around and passing judgment on Cardinals general manager Walt Jocketty. “Here’s a GM who never played the game saying, ‘We’re going to go with our young guys,’ and I go, ‘You can’t.’”

The Cardinals simply blew it, Boras concludes. “The Cardinals not signing Jeff Weaver is how you don’t win divisions, and my prediction is the St. Louis Cardinals won’t win their division this year.” (At press time, the Cardinals were near the bottom of the National League Central.)

Behind his attitude are two tenets Boras lives by: When you know the market, don’t embarrass the player; and don’t assume the player will sign for less because he likes the city he is playing in. In response to critics who say it’s all about money, Boras says, “Really? I think it’s about respect.”

http://www.ocweekly.com/features/features/the-boras-factor/27177/?page=1


Just one of the several assinine quotes in the article.

3367

Talk Zone / Re: Top of the Jakes reading list

« on: June 01, 2007, 06:41:36 pm »

I wish I had some reading to do about who might be pitching this upcoming series against the hated Co-ards... mixed with off color humor.

3368

Talk Zone / Re: MLB notices Slingbox

« on: June 01, 2007, 04:29:16 pm »

The owners draw the blackout maps.  That's the problem.  The owners apparently believe that Las Vegas can support the D'Backs, Dodgers, Giants, Rockies, A's, and Angels.

The owners drew the blackout maps 30-40 years ago. That is the real problem.

3369

Talk Zone / Re: MLB notices Slingbox

« on: June 01, 2007, 02:06:04 pm »

Do most people buy sling boxes to watch their local programming while away from home or to set it up in another part of the country so they can watch others' local programming from anywhere?

From what I have read, most do it so they can watch their TV when they travel. Or, now, on their mobile phone anytime they are away from home. For someone that does alot of traveling, its very convenient. Especially if you are slinging Tivo.

3370

Talk Zone / Re: MLB notices Slingbox

« on: June 01, 2007, 01:09:57 pm »

What's a spot beam? I get all FSN Houston games on the Dish.

Gizz is right on, all the FSN are carried on all spots.

The locals (i.e. KNWS, Fox Game of the Week) are only sent out to focused areas around the market they are intended to serve. Signing up with a Houston address in a foreign market will not allow you to receive those games.

3371

Talk Zone / Re: MLB notices Slingbox

« on: June 01, 2007, 12:39:53 pm »

I thought about trying to fool them so I could at least watch MLB.TV. But the blackouts are based on Zip Codes, and they verify your Zip Code by checking the billing address of your credit card. So I guess the trick is to find a friend in Houston who will let you use their credit card. Or get a P.O. Box in Houston and use it as a credit card billing address.

That's still a lot of trouble to go to, just to watch someone's product. I'm willing to pay the fuckers lots of money to watch the Astros ... it just seems that Rupert Murdoch is paying them more to make sure I CAN'T.

Don't forget spot beams. The Houston spot doesn't even cover DFW which means I couldn't pull such a scam if I wanted to.

3372

Talk Zone / Re: Pinch Hitting Jason Jennings

« on: June 01, 2007, 12:05:44 am »

I saw him laughing in the dugout early... when?

Tivo sez: 2nd inning, Gonzales at bat. Ausmus went to the mound on the 1-0. Not sure what was going on.

3373

Talk Zone / Re: Pinch Hitting Jason Jennings

« on: May 31, 2007, 11:56:55 pm »

Nope.  Did you see Carlos Lee messing with Loretta about the ball for his 1500 hit?  This is a loose team.  No worries here.

Good stuff. I think Loretta had his head turned.

Garner was also awful tickled early in the game...

3374

Talk Zone / Re: Pinch Hitting Jason Jennings

« on: May 31, 2007, 11:49:34 pm »

Fantastic.  I'm not near as jittery about the Astros.  And, by not listening to half assed speculation going in 10 different directions, I'm more informed about the Astros, and not some ninnies ideas about the Astros.

Jittery? Astros?

3375

Talk Zone / Re: Pinch Hitting Jason Jennings

« on: May 31, 2007, 11:36:59 pm »

Blissfully, I wont be reading it.  Whatever it is he scribbles.

How is that working out for you?

3376

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 09:50:07 pm »

I said a FRENCH lure.  Tetanus is the least of my fucking worries.

Do you feel the sudden need to surrender to someone?

3377

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 09:46:30 pm »

Brownie - 'Ever been to the Louisville slugger factory tour?'
JD - 'No. Not a big fan of bats. Try to avoid bats.'

3378

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 09:43:30 pm »

Ausmus "110 games (to go) that's 8 football seasons" he did that in his head.  That's what an Ivy League education will get you.  That and the ability to smother a slider in the dirt.

Then he said 'Lose 120 games for the rest of the season'

3379

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 09:42:43 pm »

Unless...the Astros front office is monitoring the board right now.

Baltimore in LA tonight. Game is in the third... might have to wait for that one too.

3380

Talk Zone / Re: 790 The Sports Animal implies that changes are a'comin...

« on: May 31, 2007, 09:38:26 pm »

One useless dick for our two busted Trojans? 

HOF

3381

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 09:27:03 pm »

PS - Griffey is entertaining as hell out there.

In a 'shell of his former self' sort of way...

3382

Talk Zone / Re: 790 The Sports Animal implies that changes are a'comin...

« on: May 31, 2007, 09:05:54 pm »

Garret Atkins, correct? Rox 3B.  Anderson already plays for LAA and is on the DL now, I believe.

Yeah, Atkins.

3383

Talk Zone / Re: 790 The Sports Animal implies that changes are a'comin...

« on: May 31, 2007, 08:41:38 pm »

FWIW, You're not the only person I've heard this from.

Chone Figgins is done in LAA. - .133/.212/.211

Angels have been interested in Garrett Atkins all year. Rockies seem to be sticking with him.

Possible return from Angels-
Shea Hillebrand - Just Say No
Erick Aybar - infielder
Ervin Santana - allegedely 'top trading chip' - ERA says otherwise - past performance not bad
Jose Molina - allegedely available - no offense

Could be others, this is all I could find.

3384

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 08:04:05 pm »

Glad I'm getting more shots of that damn jacket.

JD- Jacket probably looks real good in high definition.

3385

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 08:02:21 pm »

Youthful Enthusiasm 0, Crippling Reality 1

That was some Edmonsesque baiting by Dunn.

3386

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:58:27 pm »

Adam Dunn is a fucking shitty outfielder.

3387

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:49:53 pm »

Diaz walked a foul ball all the way to the mound? Arroyo was chatting with him

Courtesy... foul ball off Ausmus's foot.

3388

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:44:33 pm »

Looks like Hopper got robbed.

Nah. AE blocked his hand, and the other hand never went to the bag.

3389

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:43:54 pm »

Fuckin' Hopper.

Fuckin' Ausmus.

3390

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:42:07 pm »

Its official - JD says A-Rod play was Bush League.

3391

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:36:37 pm »

fuck arroyo

3392

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:34:47 pm »

Griffey is Syrup-slow

slow as molasses in january

3393

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:23:27 pm »

Alex Gonzo takes a ball, Ausmus out to talk to Woody?, takes a strike, and another, and another looking, sit down, 2 outs

Gonzo also very unhappy with Laz.

3394

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:11:21 pm »

Hatteberg looks at an inside FB, another K looking, 2 down

Hatteburg VERY unhappy with Laz. Pitch looked pretty good from Fort Worth.

3395

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 07:10:29 pm »

anybody see the blazer on JD?  is that the fashion form of slumpbusting?

story is something like: JD won player of the game or some such thing when they would give a prize to the players (I always remember the $25 of Texaco gas). anyway, his prize was something like $50 at some men's clothing store in town (i think they were away), so he went with someone else on the team with the intention of buying the most audacious coat in the store. and that is it.

3396

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Dickities @ Astros - 5/31/07

« on: May 31, 2007, 06:16:17 pm »

Cincinnati

Hopper, CF
Hatteberg, 1B
Griffey, RF
Phillips, 2B
Dunn, LF
Gonzalez, SS
Encarnacion, 3B
Ross, C
Arroyo, P

Houston

Biggio, 2B
Loretta, 3B
Berkman, 1B
Lee, LF
Pence, CF
Scott, RF
Everett, SS
Ausmus, C
Williams, P

3397

Talk Zone / Re: Is it do or die for Woody tonight?

« on: May 30, 2007, 11:03:43 pm »

You cannot be serious.

What do you want from a number 3?

3398

Talk Zone / Re: May 30th

« on: May 30, 2007, 10:31:59 pm »

Is that true?  Odd.

Clemens the loser, 9-0 shutout.

3399

Talk Zone / Re: May 30th

« on: May 30, 2007, 10:30:14 pm »

On May 30, 2005 the Astros had a record of 18-32 and were 15 games out.   They didn't win another game that season and ended in last place in two different divisions.

They lost to FUCKING YouRang that night too.

3400

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Commies@Cosmonauts - 5/30

« on: May 30, 2007, 09:28:43 pm »

What the fuck is that about?  And can I assume that if I were watching the Cincy broadcast of this game, the guy would have a 4 way on his head instead of an Astros hat?

4 way?

3401

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Commies@Cosmonauts - 5/30

« on: May 30, 2007, 09:21:52 pm »

Looked to me like Hunter had little to no idea where the ball was hit, and was Derek Belling straight to the bullpen.

Luke was waving like crazy to call off Gunther.

3402

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Commies@Cosmonauts - 5/30

« on: May 30, 2007, 09:19:33 pm »

Just as soon as I fix my flux capacitor.

I am sure in 1985 you can get plutonium in any corner drugstore, but in 1955, it's a little hard to come by.

3403

Talk Zone / Re: Is it do or die for Woody tonight?

« on: May 30, 2007, 06:53:22 pm »

In my mind as far as talent goes:

RoyO
Jennings
Sampson
Wandy
Woody

While that may be true, it seems like I remember Woodrow was signed as a number 3 and is making number 3 money. Not that it matters.

I think his stats still hold up as an average number 3.

Also, I think talent is the wrong word. Ability or performance or something is a better description.

3404

Talk Zone / Re: Is it do or die for Woody tonight?

« on: May 30, 2007, 06:45:57 pm »

Sounds about what you want from a 5th starter.

I am not joinin Paul on his rant, but I want to know: Why do you think Woody is the 5th starter?

3405

Talk Zone / Re: Is it do or die for Woody tonight?

« on: May 30, 2007, 05:29:11 pm »

I find very little to be positive about his work. His command sucks. His stuff is just as bad. His BP fastball doesn't help either. The Astros made a mistake picking him up. Yet we'll have to endure a season or two of his mediocre horseshit. I'll go so far as to predict that Woody will lose his tenth game before he wins number two. You can't contend with pitchers who are so far under .500.

We fucking get it. You don't like him. All your bitching and moaning will not make him go away.

3406

Talk Zone / Re: A-Rod

« on: May 30, 2007, 05:27:37 pm »

Height wise, and porn-stache wise, it would be a considerable upgrade.  Attempting to hit himself with a bat wise, no.

I was trying to explain to someone what Lane looked like at the plate last night. The best I could come up with is one of the AL pitchers that hadn't hit their entire career and were forced to for the first time since college or high school in an interleague game.

3407

Talk Zone / Re: A-Rod

« on: May 30, 2007, 02:05:54 pm »

He has no rings though and is not a winner, so he's out.  Reminds me of the days a Clark ran in here and said the problem was that Drayton McLane never signs Franchise players.  Still to this day I have no idea what that meant.  Brilliant in it's own way actually.  Absolutely brilliant.

Good times begin about half way down page 2.

3408

Talk Zone / Re: What happened to poor Alice in the seventh last night?

« on: May 30, 2007, 10:18:09 am »

Video

3409

Talk Zone / Re: It's time for action

« on: May 30, 2007, 12:50:41 am »

I watched them recently, McCann's backup is some guy named Sacco & Vanzetti, or something like that.  Big guy, switch-hitter, hit the crap out of the ball.  Very impressive at the plate, not sure about his defense.  The Caray's commented that he looked like he could handle big league pitching, if they could only find a place for him to play.  I was thinking, well, how about Houston?

Jarrod Saltalamachia. He was brought up for an injury, but they released their Wilson sister and he is staying with the big club. Might move to 1st.

3410

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Redlegs @ Astros - 5/29/07

« on: May 29, 2007, 06:34:17 pm »

Mo leading off.

Holy shit.

Everett 7th.

3411

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Redlegs @ Astros - 5/29/07

« on: May 29, 2007, 06:29:31 pm »

Cincinnati

Hopper, CF
Hatteberg, 1B
Griffey, RF
Phillips, 2B
Dunn, LF
Encarnacion, 3B
Gonzalez, SS
Moeller, C
Belisle, P

Houston

Ensberg, 3B
Loretta, 1B
Berkman, RF
Lee, LF
Pence, CF
Biggio, 2B
Everett, SS
Ausmus, C
Jennings, P

3412

Talk Zone / Re: Happy Memorial Day

« on: May 29, 2007, 02:40:43 pm »

What do you mean?

Not everyone supports the soldiers.

3413

Talk Zone / Re: 6 1/2

« on: May 29, 2007, 01:46:41 pm »

Yeah, but they were leading up until the last week or so IIRC.

Code: [Select]

155 Sun, Sep 21 box HOU @STL  L   4-6       84-71    1  up 0.5  3:07 S Hitchcock  J Robertson   41,397 --
156 Mon, Sep 22 box HOU  SFG  L   3-6       84-72    1    Tied  3:09 J Nathan     B Wagner      36,372 ---
157 Tue, Sep 23 box HOU  SFG  L   3-10      84-73    2     1.0  2:39 J Schmidt    W Miller      36,390 ----
158 Wed, Sep 24 box HOU  SFG  W   2-1       85-73    2     1.0  2:08 R Oswalt     S Ponson      31,525 +
159 Thu, Sep 25 box HOU  MIL  W   6-1       86-73    1    Tied  2:35 T Redding    D Davis       27,934 ++
160 Fri, Sep 26 box HOU  MIL  L   5-12      86-74    2     0.5  3:34 D Burba      J Robertson   37,259 -
161 Sat, Sep 27 box HOU  MIL  L   2-5       86-75    2     2.0  2:29 W Obermuelle R Villone     38,627 --
162 Sun, Sep 28 box HOU  MIL  W   8-5       87-75    2     1.0  2:32 R Stone      L Martinez    37,977 +

4 game skid between the Cards and the Gints...

3414

Talk Zone / Re: 6 1/2

« on: May 29, 2007, 01:14:00 pm »

Last year, the St. Looie Jakes proved you can suck up until the last series of the year and still make the playoffs.  The Jakes literally were set to make history as the worse collapse in a division clinch since the Phillies.  They went from there to beat up the Dojers and then take the steMs by simply out-pitching them.

The Jakes also had two 8 game losing streaks last year, and one 7 game losing streak.

3415

Talk Zone / Re: Freel exits on stretcher after collision

« on: May 28, 2007, 06:28:40 pm »

how the hell did he hang onto the ball? he was out cold before he hit the wall.

I don't know, but someone on a Redlegs forum speculated that Hopper (CF) put it in his glove before the umpire arrived. Can't really tell from that video.

3416

Talk Zone / Re: Freel exits on stretcher after collision

« on: May 28, 2007, 04:57:12 pm »

Sounds very nasty.  Did anybody see this live? Video link?  Best wishes that he did not sustain any permanant or paralyzing injury.

Video:

http://www.breitbart.tv/freelhurt.html

3417

Talk Zone / Re: Freel exits on stretcher after collision

« on: May 28, 2007, 01:36:33 pm »

At about 2:15 p.m., Reds' broadcast announcers said Freel was talking "coherently" to Reds trainers on the field while they were attending to him.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070528/SPT04/305280018

3418

Talk Zone / Freel exits on stretcher after collision

« on: May 28, 2007, 01:25:31 pm »

Running at full speed towards the wall, Freel and right fielder Norris Hopper made contact, with Freel's head and neck striking Hopper's shoulder.

Although Hopper got up, Freel remained down and motionless on the warning track for several minutes and facing the fence on his side. Reds trainers, team medical director Dr. Tim Kremchek and manager Jerry Narron were among those who rushed out to Freel, who somehow still made the catch and held on to the ball for the first out.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070528&content_id=1990685&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

3419

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros in the Desert, part IV - 5/27/07

« on: May 27, 2007, 05:05:42 pm »

Anyone have the inning and score for those of us working?

mid 6, 3-1 Arizona.

3420

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Astros in the Desert, part IV - 5/27/07

« on: May 27, 2007, 03:02:48 pm »

Houston

Lamb, 1B
Loretta, 2B
Berkman, RF
Lee, LF
Pence, CF
Ensberg, 3B
Ausmus, C
Everett, SS
Oswalt, P

Arizona

Young, CF
Callaspo, 2B
Byrnes, LF
Reynolds, 3B
Drew, SS
Jackson, 1B
Quentin, RF
Montero, C
Hernandez, P

3421

Talk Zone / Re: Golden Sombrero

« on: May 27, 2007, 02:54:32 pm »

Berkman is the heart of the problem, I agree.  Getting him going would be a #1 priority, hands down.  But even if Lance starts raking, it won't fix all our problems.  It certainly would help a LOT, but we wouldn't suddenly be scoring 6 runs a game. 

Bidge may not be a "problem", but he isn't helping our offense either.  I don't complain about Ausmus and AE, because they have a different role other than offense.  But Biggio, to a degree.. he has to carry his weight with his bat.  As much as I love heart (and he's ALWAYS been my favorite player), that doesn't deserve a starting position... and he isn't exactly out there for his vacuum D.  He is batting .228 with 3 HR, and an OPS of .661.  That is disgusting.  I can't disagree more about Biggio playing to expectations... you were "expecting" him to go for .230 and 12 HR this year???  I doubt it.  I think he has earned his right to go for 3,000 this season, but he certainly should not be playing everyday.  The problems of Ensberg/team have forced Gar to play Bidge more than he wants to I'm sure, but at some point you gotta recognize Biggio isn't doing squat out there.

Recognize Bidge isn't doing squat? Sure, I am not fucking blind. He isn't hitting for shit. He is in a slump. Fine, can't argue with you. However, he'll come around, get his 3000 and be on the bench more.

But, he is NOT the reason this team has dropped 7 in a row.

The blueprint for this team dictates that Lance has to hit about .300 and slug about .580-.600. Which he is capable of and which he will eventually come around too. Until he starts doing that, its going to be a long season. And all the rest of this is fucking whiney ass bullshit.

3422

Talk Zone / Re: Golden Sombrero

« on: May 27, 2007, 02:40:51 pm »

No fuck that. You must have some pretty brutal expectations if Biggio is playing to them. He's a terrible 2nd baseman and he's not hitting at all. Berkman was slugging .346 on June 20, 2005. He'll turn it around. Who thinks Biggio will?

The "well he sucks but we EXPECT him to suck so it's not a problem" is absolute bullshit.

The expectation, I would guess, is that he would hit about .250-.260. If you disagree with that as a valid plan for 2B for the Houston Astros of 2007, then you just have to disagree. There is one reason why he is out there and we all know what that is.

Its not that the Astros expected him to 'suck', but they didn't expect Bidge to carry the team either. If Bidge had 7 or 8 more hits he'd be at .260 and no one be saying a damn thing about him. But I doubt those 7 or 8 hits would carry the offense the way a fully productive Lance, and a half ass 3B or RF would.

3423

Talk Zone / Re: Golden Sombrero

« on: May 27, 2007, 12:10:36 pm »

Biggio's expectations aren't consistent with trying to win.

Fuck that. Complaining about Bidge is like complaining about AE and Ausmus. JimR is right, just like AE and Ausmus Bidge is playing to expectations... and like mihoba points out, with the same heart he has had for the last 20 years.

The problem with this team is Lance, 3B, RF and the suddenly mortal pitching staff. Everything else is just whiney ass bullshit.

3424

Talk Zone / Re: Announcers for Fox talking Lidge trade...

« on: May 26, 2007, 05:26:00 pm »

I've been watching that game periodically and Girardi keeps referencing Lidge and the trade chips both Philly and Atlanta have. Girardi mentioned Aaron Rowand as a potential CFer for the Astros but quickly hedged by noting Pence's quality play, then went on to praise switch-hitting catcher uberprospect Saltalamacchia and the big return he'd command on the trade market. Nothing real here, just b.s. speculation.

The Bravos 7th-8th inning guy Rodriguez went on the shelf with Tommy John surgery. The one they got from the Pyroots.

3425

Talk Zone / Re: Enter the Touch Allysa Milano Ultimate Fan Sweepstakes

« on: May 26, 2007, 12:15:55 am »

The Jacket (Keira Knightley)

3426

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros vs Snakes May 25, 2007

« on: May 25, 2007, 11:48:41 pm »

I'm just tying out my ass. But, I'll bet Berry and Wallace will get the axe soon.

The pitching has been very good up until about a week ago. Wallace doesn't go anywhere unless Garner gets the axe.

Which is probably any day now.

3427

Talk Zone / Re: WTF Happened in the 2nd Last Night?

« on: May 25, 2007, 08:35:32 pm »

living in Dallas, I don't get to see many games

you need DirecTV.

3428

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros vs Snakes May 25, 2007

« on: May 25, 2007, 08:33:57 pm »

Dropping Biggio down is the first step. Switching Berkman and Pence will be next.

3429

Talk Zone / Re: Crazy-ass Trade Suggestion, Born Out of Frustration/Exasperation

« on: May 25, 2007, 12:37:59 pm »

Really?  I always thought that a club had control of a player for 5 full seasons...this would be Cabrera's 4th full season at the MLB level.  I would not be surprised if I'm wrong however.

Miguel Cabrera 3b
1 year/$7.4M (2007)

re-signed 2/07 (won arbitration, $7.4M-$6.7M)

1 year/$0.472M (2006)
re-signed 3/06 (split contract paying $0.296M in minors)

1 year/$0.37M (2005), renewed 3/05

1 year/$0.32M (2004), renewed 3/04 (split contract paying $135,744 in minors)
signed out of Venezuala in 1999, $1.9M signing bonus (Venezuala record)
agent: SFX (Fernando Cuza & Diego Bentz)
ML service: 3.101

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005_01_19_mlbcontracts_archive.html

3430

Talk Zone / Re: Crazy-ass Trade Suggestion, Born Out of Frustration/Exasperation

« on: May 25, 2007, 11:23:32 am »

he will not sign before the end of the season. he will "take his talents" to the FA market. i would not trade for him.

Miguel is under club control for two more years.

3431

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros in the Desert - 5/24/07

« on: May 24, 2007, 10:47:28 pm »

All this shit to the track is fucking awful.

3432

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros in the Desert - 5/24/07

« on: May 24, 2007, 10:39:09 pm »

Lane 'pulling off' the ball was very clear in that shot from behind the plate.

3433

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros in the Desert - 5/24/07

« on: May 24, 2007, 10:27:23 pm »

Yes it did, but I could not log on the site.  Internet encountered a problem.  That is why I asked if OWA had a brain fart.

OWA is a brain fart. Mostly.

3434

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros in the Desert - 5/24/07

« on: May 24, 2007, 10:26:25 pm »

Moehler throwing BP again.

3435

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros in the Desert - 5/24/07

« on: May 24, 2007, 08:10:06 pm »

Might be an attempt to get OP's bat going. He's been scuffling pretty badly. Garner may be trying to get Orlando's bat going.

4 for 30 on the season, last hit 4/23 in PHI. No extra base hits.

3436

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Astros in the Desert - 5/24/07

« on: May 24, 2007, 07:49:13 pm »

Houston

Biggio, 2B
Lamb, 3B
Berkman, 1B
Lee, LF
Pence, CF
Palmeiro, RF
Ausmus, C
Everett, SS
Rodriguez, P

Arizona

Young, CF
Jackson, 1B
Hudson, 2B
Byrnes, LF
Reynolds, 3B
Quentin, RF
Drew, SS
Snyder, C
Owings, P

3437

Talk Zone / Re: Robinson Cano

« on: May 24, 2007, 04:33:25 pm »

Unless "The Looking Glass" had its own power generating plant.  The cable could have been for Com.

If its power, problem solved. If its comm, then it seems that it would control the jamming equipment. Problem solved.

Anyway, why wouldn't they cut the line? Seems like the first thing to do... easiest potentially.

3438

Talk Zone / Re: Robinson Cano

« on: May 24, 2007, 04:27:51 pm »

He didn't need to seal the door, the equipment was turned off.  He could have just walked out of the room put on the scuba gear and jumped into the water.  Or even just dove into the water and swam up.  There was no reason to *not* let the building flood.  And he'd been saved several times from Desmond's visions.  Desmond himself said he didn't *have* to die, only that if they followed that scenario, he *would* die.  They just could have made it a little more necessary.

They could have cut the line on the beach and avoided the whole thing.

3439

Talk Zone / Re: Enter the Touch Allysa Milano Ultimate Fan Sweepstakes

« on: May 24, 2007, 11:02:55 am »

Havoc (Anne Hathaway)

3440

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 11:33:22 pm »

Gunther's throws to the plate have got to improve.

3441

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 11:24:11 pm »

This trip is like all of the above... like going to a dentist who's into A2M...

You are going to feel a little prick in your mouth...

3442

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 11:12:14 pm »

WHAT THE FUCK IS ENSBERG DOING?

3443

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 11:05:15 pm »

Ensberg, perched up on the rail to the dugout entrance to watch Everett's atbat, tried to give him a pat on the back but Everett moved on by.

JD blurted out earlier "His swing is a mess"

3444

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 11:03:02 pm »

Eschenfelder's tie is hideous.

3445

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 10:59:05 pm »

Lane needs to learn do to something other than hit high fly balls just shy of the warning track.

And watch them as he trots to the dugout.

3446

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 10:54:04 pm »

Rangers.  That's what called it off.  The Grocer didn't want Oswalt flipped to the Rangers.  Because, then Roy would have been their all star selection.

Fans would have been mad at Drayton for sending Roy to the Rangers. Like he did Nolan.

3447

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 10:51:23 pm »

Ensberg sez:

Yahoo! homepage. iTunes. He doesn't know anything cool.

3448

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 10:48:24 pm »

Kayaker burning one. Awesome.

3449

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 10:39:03 pm »

Dear Tim Tscieda (or whoever you spell it) FUCK OFF.

You just called the SAME pitch a strike you'd JUST called a ball.

And he was awful late on that call.

3450

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 10:12:41 pm »

Shut UP! Ensberg just tomahawked something high and slow. 

baby steps.

3451

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 10:09:28 pm »

Can't believe what I just saw. Good things can happen when you swing the fucking bat.

3452

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 09:53:11 pm »

Fuck pitching! Start Albers at 3rd!

Be alot of stretching for Puma.

3453

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 09:45:45 pm »

astros hits vs giants runs?  which one you betting on?

how about albers walks v astros runs?

3454

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 09:30:10 pm »

2-0 to Durham. Fuck, can someone tell me if they see some type of mechanical problem?

3455

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 09:27:16 pm »

for those not watching Astros broadcast, Albers had control issues during warmup. Hit Luke that was standing in.

Fuck.

3456

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 09:25:34 pm »

God... damnit... Leadoff walk, FANTASTIC

and 3-0 to Lewis. this is going to be a short night for albers.

3457

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 09:18:21 pm »

What the fuck Morgan? Second start since May 11 and he doesn't fucking take the bat off his shoulder for a 3 pitch strikeout.

Seriously. What the fuck?

3458

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Astros at Gints - 5/23/07

« on: May 23, 2007, 08:04:57 pm »

Houston

Biggio, 2B
Ensberg, 3B
Loretta, 1B
Lee, LF
Pence, CF
Lane, RF
Everett, SS
Quintero, C
Albers, P

San Francisco

Winn, CF
Lewis, RF
Klesko, LF
Durham, 2B
Molina, C
Feliz, 3B
Aurilia, 1B
Vizquel, SS
Zito, P

3459

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 05:37:17 pm »

If Berkman was Berkman, Ensberg would just be another lemur.

Disagree. The missing piece of 2005 might have been Lee, but that was in concert with Berkman, MVPesque Ensberg, Lane with 25 HRs, Bidge with 25HRs and a pitching staff that was unbelievable.

Berkman needs to be Berkman, but there also needs to be help at 3B and/or RF.

3460

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 05:29:31 pm »

Right Carlos Lee.  He went and got him.  This season what they are clearly missing is Lance Berkman.  Blame that one on Purpura.

The Astros were also missing Morgan Ensberg... and still are.

3461

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 05:28:09 pm »

Ensberg in My Lineup.

Peepers in my Central Garden

3462

Talk Zone / Re: Robinson Cano

« on: May 23, 2007, 05:25:57 pm »

That's how I got into it.  My wife was watching a show at the beginning of Season 2 and I said "hey this looks like an interesting show".  She said "forget it, go get the DVDs and catch up".  I did.  The cool thing was, I got to watch the entire Season 1 straight through, no commercials, in one rainy day.  Season 1 was fantastic.  Season 2 dragged.  The first half of Season 3 was nothing but puss.  The last few episodes have gotten better though. 

The stolen diamonds/spider bite/buried alive show was pretty fucking out of place this season. I wonder if that is going to reoccur in some way.

3463

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 05:22:09 pm »

See the "Robinson Cano" thread for the Lost discussion.

Yeah, just read it. Should have thought to look there first.

3464

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 05:18:48 pm »

To recap:
Lost - but not tonight's season finale

This show is getting pretty fucking out of hand too.

3465

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 05:10:43 pm »

Negative.  Purp took over Nov 2004, coming of the first NLCS.  His first two offseasons (2004-5 and 2005-6) were off the back-to-back NLCS runs.  The 2006-7 offeason was his first time to come off a year they hadn't made the playoffs.

There was no game 7 of the 2005 NLCS. Picking nits because I am bored.

3466

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 04:08:41 pm »

This was the FIRST offseason that "PUP" didn't have a team that was in GAme 7 of the previous year's NLCS.

2nd year.

3467

Talk Zone / Re: Robinson Cano

« on: May 23, 2007, 03:13:50 pm »

His dad, Jose, played for the Astros.

http://www.jockbio.com/Bios/Cano/Cano_bio.html

3468

Talk Zone / Re: Line Up

« on: May 23, 2007, 10:35:37 am »

That was a doozy of a lineup that "garnered" exactly six hits, the same number as the two previous nights if memory serves me correctly. I'm of the opinion that it is time to cut bait with MoBerg and Lame. In light of our plight at the plate, I'm also beginning to wonder whether OP is a luxury that we can't afford to have right now, especially given that he's not producing.

Who do you suggest as the LH contact hitter off the bench? Or, are you not a slave to such strategery?

3469

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 11:31:55 pm »

I HATE West Coast trips.

yeah, and the astros get Johnson and Webb over the weekend.

3470

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 11:31:11 pm »

Don't even show a replay. Shitbags.

3471

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 11:19:15 pm »

Any takers on if they'll play Vizquel's song again after his atbat?

Winner!

3472

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 11:11:44 pm »

Jim Wolf is ready to go home.

3473

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 11:09:13 pm »

OP is 0 for last 16.

3474

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:55:07 pm »

Homer's got a sweet beaver?  Does it go well with chips?

More tangy.

3475

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:52:03 pm »

I'm not sure this team has it in them, remy.

Did you just respond to yourself? Really?

3476

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:49:23 pm »

Why does that fucker Feliz always kill us?  He's not that good.

JD explained its because Roy is in the zone so much. He was cheating on that FB and it drifted right over the middle of the plate.

3477

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:47:00 pm »

Sweeney had been on deck, but Lincecum stays in to nearly get his first hit... but was robbed by Lamber.

3478

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:46:02 pm »

What the FUCK was Molina doing? Walking down the line?

3479

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:37:04 pm »

Fat kid, rubber chicken! Fat kid, rubber chicken!

3480

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:29:47 pm »

Orlando Hudson also has a Gold Glove in both leagues.

3481

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:25:25 pm »

Feliz first pitch single out in HoTran Pence's territory.
Vizquel (to the soundtrack of his own craptitude) GO toAE, Feliz advances to 2nd
Lincecum K's

2 out

HoTran?

3482

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:21:14 pm »

And now they're playing Jefferson Starship. Everyone's a winner.

Now they are playing Omar singing Broadway by Goo Goo Dolls.

Good thing that SS thing worked out for him.

HOLY SHIT! MAKE IT STOP! Brownie seems to think that Omar wrote that song.

Now Brownie apologizes for thinking Yamaguchi was a gymnast.

3483

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 10:05:41 pm »

So... something just happened? Scott? A wall?

Klesko hammered a letter high FB down the right field line to the wall. Scott got there quick and got it in to hold Lewis at 3rd.

3484

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 08:52:57 pm »

Yeah, I mean....there are lots of combinations I can think of that make more sense.

Loretta, Lamb, Berkman, Lee, Pence
Pence, Loretta, Lamb, Lee, Berkman
Loretta, Pence, Lee, Berkman, Lamb
and on and on.

Its L, R, L, R, L, R, R, R, R.

3485

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Re: Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 08:05:31 pm »

Ah ha.  Lamb leading off.

Ah.  Ha.

I want Lamb in the lineup.  I was thinking more along the lines of......5th.  6th.  You know, with people on ahead of him to drive in.

Agreed. If this is the strategy, then Gunther should lead off.

3486

Game Zone 2007 Archive / Sparky @ Cameron - 5/22/07

« on: May 22, 2007, 07:40:31 pm »

Houston

Lamb, 3B
Loretta, 2B
Berkman, 1B
Lee, LF
Scott, RF
Pence, CF
Ausmus, C
Everett, SS
Oswalt, P

San Francisco

Winn, CF
Lewis, RF
Klesko, 1B
Bonds, LF
Durham, 2B
Molina, C
Feliz, 3B
Vizquel, SS
Lincecum, P

3487

Talk Zone / Re: time to cut some ties?

« on: May 22, 2007, 07:36:12 pm »

Thanks for the meager "encourage[ment]" but I think Talkzone should be renamed "We Eat Our Young Here."

Your biggest problem is what pravata pointed out early on. There were two other threads that were pretty lengthy that discussed the very issues of your original post. I think that is clear evidence that you didn't read nearly enough before you posted.

3488

Talk Zone / Re: Question on Berkman's position...

« on: May 22, 2007, 05:58:17 pm »

What's the advantage to his method?  Looks like it would be harder to throw to second like on Saturday when Wandy picked the runner off and he threw the ball into left field.  Just curiious.

Don't forget that Berkman is left handed and has to adjust his positioning accordingly. Whoever you are comparing him to in your mind might throw right...

3489

Talk Zone / Re: time to cut some ties?

« on: May 22, 2007, 05:12:29 pm »

Uh...I changed the Willie Bloomquist wikipedia page to say that he wasn't drafted because he had no penis.  Don't bother to check, it's already been changed back.

Why did I do this?  The Imp of the Perverse!

Try "... because some people say he has no penis. Discuss amongst yourselves."

3490

Talk Zone / Re: time to cut some ties?

« on: May 22, 2007, 03:35:05 pm »

Yeah, what was I thinking.  Get rid of Sampson!

If Gunther had been at the proper Edmonds baiting depth, perhaps the game turns out different. But, probably not.

3491

Talk Zone / Re: time to cut some ties?

« on: May 22, 2007, 03:29:25 pm »

Just simply outstanding the way they mastered the Jints lineup.

You are delusional. If you hadn't noticed, the Astros lost last night.

And AE gets part of the blame for not catching that flare to center.

3492

Talk Zone / Re: time to cut some ties?

« on: May 22, 2007, 03:09:21 pm »

If I could sum up responses:
1. I'm an idiot and maybe a Yankees fan.
2. I should shut up.
3. I'm wrong about worrying about Everett's bat (okay, I give).
4. Burke doesn't deserve another chance.
5. Not much in favor of Lane and Ensberg, hard to find a consensus here.

Or in other words:

Read more, post less.

3493

Talk Zone / Re: Hey, look there... it's a problem in right field... again!

« on: May 22, 2007, 03:06:48 pm »

I think you misunderstood my point.  My point wasn't what it would actually take to make a trade for him; it was that I honestly can't imagine Seattle trading Ichiro.  I don't care how close he says the sides are.  They're going to throw a boatload of money at him until he takes it. 

You are probably right, Ichiro probably won't leave Seattle. And he will probably make A-Rod money next year.

3494

Talk Zone / Re: Hey, look there... it's a problem in right field... again!

« on: May 22, 2007, 03:05:51 pm »

Lidge for Ichiro?  Done.

They aren't even close to winning, and Lidge seems more like a 'final piece' trade and less of a rebuild trade. But, yeah, duct tape Ensberg, Lane, Burke to him as well... if we are dreaming.

Seriously though, a good young pitcher or two (Albers, Sampson, someone else that I can't think of) with Lidge might do the trick.

3495

Talk Zone / Re: Hey, look there... it's a problem in right field... again!

« on: May 22, 2007, 02:58:37 pm »

As far as I understand, there's zero chance.  Seattle wants to re-sign Ichiro more than anything this offseason and have publicly made that known. 

If they trade him, I imagine it would be for Berkman or Oswalt.

Not even close. He has a half year on a contract with no options, etc. Berkman and Oswalt are signed long term.

Ichiro was interviewed last week saying that the two sides weren't close on a deal. He was also crying about respect, and all that shit, so its probably all posturing.

The best Seattle could hope for is prospects, or perhaps a young 'MLB ready' player for the time remaining on Ichiro's contract. Or perhaps Lidge.

3496

Talk Zone / Re: Hey, look there... it's a problem in right field... again!

« on: May 22, 2007, 02:31:42 pm »

Neither Minnesota nor Seattle look to be headed to the post-season as we're sitting in mid-May.  Ensberg/Lane, Qualls/Wheeler/Lidge, and a prospect not named Patton, say Albers or Guterriez and take on the entire rest of the contract for either?

Minnesota needs a right handed bat. Apparently they have several starters in the pipeline, and Nathan is or will be extended as closer.

Seattle needs pitching. They were interested in Benitez before the season started.

3497

Talk Zone / Re: Hey, look there... it's a problem in right field... again!

« on: May 22, 2007, 02:02:21 pm »

Torii Hunter is the biggest name I can think of that might be available.

Torii is in a contract year. From Rosenthal:

Hunter might not be an elite hitter, but he's not a Metrodome creation, either; his career on-base percentage is five points higher on the road (.326-.321) and his slugging percentage four points higher (.471-.467). The Twins will need to consider trading Hunter if they fall out of contention, knowing how difficult it will be to re-sign him.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6834288

Ichiro is also in a contract year:

A person familiar with Ichiro's thinking, speaking to Newsday on the condition of anonymity, opined that the 33-year-old Suzuki will explore free agency now that he is so close to it. But the person further predicted that Suzuki will be very selective regarding his next employer.

...

...Seattle could quickly drop out of the pennant race and trade Ichiro by July 31. But I'll bet against that.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spken155172681apr15,0,7451716.column?page=1&coll=ny-sports-print

The possibility of losing Ichiro, an All-Star in each of his six seasons with the club, likely will loom over the Mariners. And there is more. Tony Attanasio, Ichiro's longtime agent, suggested the Mariners may be forced to part with Ichiro this summer -- before his contract expires.

"If it appears to them that they can't sign Ichiro," Attanasio said Tuesday afternoon, "they might have to trade him. If they didn't, they'd risk just getting a draft choice for him."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/304515_mari21.html

3498

Talk Zone / Re: Hey, look there... it's a problem in right field... again!

« on: May 22, 2007, 01:01:35 pm »

He was the only one who had a fucking clue last night.

Too many fat pitches taken by the Good Guys last night.

3499

Talk Zone / Re: Hey, look there... it's a problem in right field... again!

« on: May 22, 2007, 12:57:04 pm »

Sampson and Williams.

I still think Garner should have let Sampson hit instead of Ensberg the other day.

3500

Talk Zone / Re: Hey, look there... it's a problem in right field... again!

« on: May 22, 2007, 12:55:25 pm »

Scott, Palmiero, Lane


If that's the logic lets sit Lee and put Palmiero in left.

Scott and Lane would be shit off the bench. And they can only play an outfield position.

The Astros could play Lamb and Loretta everyday if they can find another left handed hitter for the bench. Bruntlett or Burke could fill the utility role. Ensberg and Lane would have to go.

Loretta everyday would be fine, but as someone pointed out earlier today... Lamb would look very average playing everyday. He is better, above average even, off the bench.