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Title: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on December 07, 2018, 05:38:13 am
Horrible news:

http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/12/07/luis-valbuena-jose-castillo-die-in-car-accident/ (http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/12/07/luis-valbuena-jose-castillo-die-in-car-accident/)
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Jose Cruz III on December 07, 2018, 07:10:11 am
That stinks. RIP
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Reuben on December 07, 2018, 07:37:14 am
That’s terrible. I always liked Luis Valbuena. The article didn’t mention what family he is survived by, but I feel horrible for them. 33 years old.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on December 07, 2018, 07:38:12 am
Total bummer. He was a good Astro.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: doyce7 on December 07, 2018, 08:25:06 am
Man, fuck this. I'll always remember the game against the Rangers where he started bat flipping everything just to piss them off. RIP Valbuena

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Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: drew corleone on December 07, 2018, 08:27:23 am
That is devastating news.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: moriartp on December 07, 2018, 08:27:26 am
Awful news. I had forgotten Castillo's brief stint with the Astros in '08.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: GreatBagwellsBeard on December 07, 2018, 08:32:32 am
I always enjoyed Valbuena.  He seemed like one of the first indications that Luhnow et al knew what they were doing: giving up Fowler for him and Dan Straily was one of the first moves that actually moved the on-field club in a positive direction while also giving the farm some depth.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Sambito Redux on December 07, 2018, 10:00:52 am
It seems every off season there is at one or two players (astros or other) who are dying in car/boat/plane accidents

Car                                          Boat                                Plane   

Yordano Ventura          Jose Fernandez                Thurman Munson             
Andy Marte                        Tim Crews                     Roberto Clemente
Nick Adenhart                   Steve Olin                             Cory Lidle
Oscar Tavarez                                                                Roy Halladay
Kerry Robinson
Andujar Cedeno
Miguel Gonzalez
Jose Oliva
Jair Capellan

The Dominican Republic has the highest rate of road traffic deaths in the Americas and one of the highest rates in the world, according to a 2015 road safety analysis from the World Health Organization. The Dominican Republic road traffic death rate of 29.3 per 100,000 people is almost three times higher than in the United States.

Rest in Peace Luis Valbueana and Jose Castillo.

Be safe.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Lefty on December 07, 2018, 10:29:58 am
Orbit's eulogy:  https://twitter.com/OrbitAstros/status/1071031512429182976

Walk-off vs. the A's:  https://twitter.com/Adam_Abramson1/status/1070922864465985536

Always liked him as an Astro.  This sucks.
Title: Car accident claims lives of Valbuena, Castillo
Post by: Nate Colbert on December 07, 2018, 11:02:53 am
Awful, awful news.

Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Nate Colbert on December 07, 2018, 11:31:51 am
Morbid given the circumstances but I'm fascinated with your table. Added a few names to it...

It seems every off season there is at one or two players (astros or other) who are dying in car/boat/plane accidents

Car                                          Boat                                Plane   

Yordano Ventura          Jose Fernandez                Thurman Munson             
Andy Marte                        Tim Crews                     Roberto Clemente
Nick Adenhart                   Steve Olin                             Cory Lidle
Oscar Tavares                                                                Roy Halladay
Kerry Robinson                                                              Ken Hubbs
Andujar Cedeno
Miguel Gonzalez
Jose Oliva
Jair Capellan
Mike Miley
Bob Moose
Chico Ruiz
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbuena, Castillo
Post by: Nate Colbert on December 07, 2018, 11:58:27 am
The Dominican Republic has the highest rate of road traffic deaths in the Americas and one of the highest rates in the world, according to a 2015 road safety analysis from the World Health Organization. The Dominican Republic road traffic death rate of 29.3 per 100,000 people is almost three times higher than in the United States.

Just to note the Valbuena/Castillo deaths occurred in Venezuela...

Maria Torres  @maria_torres3 2h ago
An update from Venezuela, where criminals regularly throw rocks into roads to cause crashes and rob victims. Two in the SUV survived. Luis Valbuena and Jose Castillo, however, were not wearing seatbelts and died when ejected from the vehicle.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Knoxbanedoodle on December 07, 2018, 12:03:15 pm
My favorite Valbuena memory was a 9th inning save-spoiling go-ahead blast off Diaz a few years back.  Might've been one of his last abs as an Astro, come to think of it. Valbuena had style.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: JimR on December 07, 2018, 01:35:44 pm
I was going to add Hubbs, but Nate is too quick.

No seat belts? Damn.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Sambito Redux on December 07, 2018, 02:20:39 pm
Morbid given the circumstances but I'm fascinated with your table. Added a few names to it...

Yes Nate, morbid indeed.

Appreciate your assistance and precision --- I made the list because it rankles me that every year, it seems like, there is a new tragedy.

My hope is this becomes a list that is not added to for decades to come.. Wouldn' t that be a minor miracle?
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Fredia on December 07, 2018, 03:05:20 pm
well said. and agree
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Col. Sphinx Drummond on December 07, 2018, 03:16:12 pm
Padre Mike Darr in 2002.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: JimR on December 07, 2018, 03:52:33 pm
Persons arrested for robbing the crash victims.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: SoonerJim on December 07, 2018, 07:03:35 pm
Persons arrested for robbing the crash victims.

Intentional rock throwing or placement to effect an accident and robbery afterwards

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/arrests-made-in-venezuela-crash-that-killed-ex-mlbers/ar-BBQEnPa?li=BBnbfcL
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Astros Fan in Big D on December 07, 2018, 07:44:19 pm
Intentional rock throwing or placement to effect an accident and robbery afterwards

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/arrests-made-in-venezuela-crash-that-killed-ex-mlbers/ar-BBQEnPa?li=BBnbfcL

Disgusting.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: Reuben on December 07, 2018, 07:50:23 pm
Wasn’t that what happened to Yordano Ventura too? Or at least, he was robbed while he lay dying in the road.
Title: Re: Car accident claims lives of Valbueana, Castillo
Post by: juliogotay on December 10, 2018, 09:07:57 am
Wasn’t that what happened to Yordano Ventura too? Or at least, he was robbed while he lay dying in the road.

The latter is what I recall. Ventura was allegedly driving very recklessly.