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Yuli sent back to Houston to get his hand checked out. Turns out it was worse than originally reported. Hinch does not know the cause of the injury.
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Yuli sent back to Houston to get his hand checked out. Turns out it was worse than originally reported. Hinch does not know the cause of the injury.
Well, better to have this happen now versus late March.
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Thanks, Bench. I miss Nate Colbert.
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Thanks, Bench. I miss Nate Colbert.
What happened to him? Was he pissed about something?
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What happened to him? Was he pissed about something?
my guess is "yes" but I can't imagine why. I think this board often thanked him for his significant contributions. I hope that he is ok and comes back.
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my guess is "yes" but I can't imagine why. I think this board often thanked him for his significant contributions. I hope that he is ok and comes back.
If something happened, I missed it. Strange when people leave during a WS championship year. All about them, I guess.
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If something happened, I missed it. Strange when people leave during a WS championship year. All about them, I guess.
Member List shows him active 20 minutes ago but nothing posted for 6 months.
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Member List shows him active 20 minutes ago but nothing posted for 6 months.
Could be burned out.
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Could be burned out.
Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.
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Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.
Hope you are well, Nate. Do take care of those aches and pains.
We miss your posts.
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Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.
Sorry to hear that. You have been sorely missed. Glad to see you back.
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Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.
Take care, and hurry back.
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Take care, and hurry back.
This.
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Take care, and hurry back.
+1, Nate. You take care of you. We’ll be here when you are up to returning.
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+1, Nate. You take care of you. We’ll be here when you are up to returning.
+! Godspeed, Nate.
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Gurriel to have hand surgery.
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Sorry to hear that Nate. Take care.
Anyway, according to McTaggart - "Yuli Gurriel having surgery to remove the hook of hamate bone in his left hand. Timetable unknown."
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Drew Silva, NBC Sports - "Hamate bone surgery typically comes with 6-8 weeks of recovery time and can sometimes sap a player's hitting ability for a while after that."
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Drew Silva, NBC Sports - "Hamate bone surgery typically comes with 6-8 weeks of recovery time and can sometimes sap a player's hitting ability for a while after that."
Unless Reed steps up and earns the first base job, I’m thinking Marwin gets most of the reps at first.
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Unless Reed steps up and earns the first base job, I’m thinking Marwin gets most of the reps at first.
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I think Marwin takes over and White gets the odd start (I'd bet on him over Reed).
With Marwin needed at 1B, Fisher would really have to suck to lose the LF gig. I guess there's some chance this opens the door to signing Carlos Gonzalez, too.
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Perhaps, but mostly my own aches and pains.
Glad you are still at least lurking.
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I think Marwin takes over and White gets the odd start (I'd bet on him over Reed).
With Marwin needed at 1B, Fisher would really have to suck to lose the LF gig. I guess there's some chance this opens the door to signing Carlos Gonzalez, too.
Opens the door a crack for JD Davis too.
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Opens the door a crack for JD Davis too.
Right! I keep forgetting all about him.
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Marwin need to stay in the utility role. Too bad Logan Morrison signed last week.
Losing Yuli for two months hurts. I hope they operate today.
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I think Marwin takes over and White gets the odd start (I'd bet on him over Reed).
With Marwin needed at 1B, Fisher would really have to suck to lose the LF gig. I guess there's some chance this opens the door to signing Carlos Gonzalez, too.
I was thinking the same thing about Carlos Gonzalez. One thing is for sure, we have options, good ones at that, and those are nice to have.
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Marwin need to stay in the utility role. Too bad Logan Moreison signed last week.
Losing Yuli for two months hurts. I hope they operate today.
Surgery's done and went well, says Luhnow. 6 week expected recovery, so Yuli probably misses the first ~2 weeks of the season.
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Opens the door a crack for JD Davis too.
I agree whole heartedly. I think it was Jim that has been saying all winter that he would like to see Davis get more regular at bats. Well, if he continues to hit like he has the first few games of spring he’s getting the spot.
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I agree whole heartedly. I think it was Jim that has been saying all winter that he would like to see Davis get more regular at bats. Well, if he continues to hit like he has the first few games of spring he’s getting the spot.
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That was HH, and I did not disagree. I want to see Reed realize his potential, but he is running out of time.
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I was thinking the same thing about Carlos Gonzalez. One thing is for sure, we have options, good ones at that, and those are nice to have.
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No need to make a deal. Plenty of guys that can fill in for a while.
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Surgery's done and went well, says Luhnow. 6 week expected recovery, so Yuli probably misses the first ~2 weeks of the season.
I'm trying to remember who else had the hamate bone removed. Seems like an Astro player back in the day.
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I am too lazy to look this up so if there is a doctor in the house please answer this question. What causes this type of injury? Is this just like a growth that just now started to bother him or was this the result of something Yuli did to cause the injury?
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Nate, hope at is well, or will be soon.
It seems like a lot of players have this type of injury. That slugger/strikeout guy that made AA we had years back (obviously forgot his name) had it, IIRC. I assume the injury is more probable to befall people who swing bats or disrespect Japanese hurlers, but I obviously don't know.
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Nate, hope at is well, or will be soon.
It seems like a lot of players have this type of injury. That slugger/strikeout guy that made AA we had years back (obviously forgot his name) had it, IIRC. I assume the injury is more probable to befall people who swing bats or disrespect Japanese hurlers, but I obviously don't know.
Here's a HOT TAKE (http://proxr.com/baseballs-broken-hamate-plague/): FACT: The bat knob on conventional baseball bats is the root cause of every broken hamate injury and thrown bat in the game of baseball. It’s a design flaw that threatens players and fans alike.
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Astros' hamate bone surgeries:
Max Stassi, spring 2016:
https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/astros-max-stassi-recovery-from-hamate-surgery/c-167848586
JD Martinez, 2012:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-24/news/sns-rt-bbo-astros-team-reportsxeab4ba1-20120924_1_lhp-fernando-abad-hamate-bone-marwin-gonzalez
Bobby Abreu, 1997:
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/30/sports/two-astros-have-arm-surgery.html
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This brings up an interesting question. Can the Astros rationalize that "Yuli was going to miss the first week, anyway", or will MLB attempt to make sure he misses five games after he's cleared to play?
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Astros' hamate bone surgeries:
Max Stassi, spring 2016:
https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/astros-max-stassi-recovery-from-hamate-surgery/c-167848586
JD Martinez, 2012:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-09-24/news/sns-rt-bbo-astros-team-reportsxeab4ba1-20120924_1_lhp-fernando-abad-hamate-bone-marwin-gonzalez
Bobby Abreu, 1997:
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/30/sports/two-astros-have-arm-surgery.html
Telvin Nash was the guy I was trying to recall, but based on this and Bench's link, it seems to be more widespread. Damn knobs!
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This brings up an interesting question. Can the Astros rationalize that "Yuli was going to miss the first week, anyway", or will MLB attempt to make sure he misses five games after he's cleared to play?
I am 99.9% sure he’s got to miss the first five games he can physically play.
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Here's a HOT TAKE (http://proxr.com/baseballs-broken-hamate-plague/): FACT: The bat knob on conventional baseball bats is the root cause of every broken hamate injury and thrown bat in the game of baseball. It’s a design flaw that threatens players and fans alike.
Thanks for that info!
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Small sample size, but Davis has been tearing it up so far this spring. He's played a tiny bit in the OF in Corpus, so he could be part of a Marwin/Fisher platoon to cover LF and 1B.
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Why can't they just put him on the DL after the five games are over?
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Why can't they just put him on the DL after the five games are over?
Dishonest. He must serve the suspension when he is able to play.
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That was HH, and I did not disagree. I want to see Reed realize his potential, but he is running out of time.
I think Davis can hit at this level, and can handle 1B with no problems. He's the guy that's gonna step up and surprise people, IMO. I am not optimistic about Reed. But I sure wish he'd prove me wrong.
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Dishonest. He must serve the suspension when he is able to play.
So if he is on DL but not yet suspended, will be be able to participate in opening day festivities?
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Dishonest. He must serve the suspension when he is able to play.
Ok, but teams abuse the DL all of the time.
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Ok, but teams abuse the DL all of the time.
DL had it coming.
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McCann back, Federiowicz DFA'd.
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In rival news, Ohtani has an elbow ouchie and will be on the DL for quite some time.
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In rival news, Ohtani has an elbow ouchie and will be on the DL for quite some time.
So no more breathless updates from MLB every time he hits a foul ball?
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So no more breathless updates from MLB every time he hits a foul ball?
You'll have to settle for updates when he scratches himself now.
Hopefully not to serious. Pretty cool story.
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Correa not in the lineup today.
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McCann back, Federiowicz DFA'd.
I think you just proved that you are not Polish.
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Federiowicz at least one word I no longer have to work about misspelling.. welcome back big M
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Per Mark Berman, Joe Smith is headed to the DL with “elbow discomfort.”
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Per Mark Berman, Joe Smith is headed to the DL with “elbow discomfort.”
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Guduan has been recalled to take his place.
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Guduan has been recalled to take his place.
Hoyt must really be struggling.
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Hoyt must really be struggling.
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Just looking at stats, not really. I'd honestly kind of forgotten he was in Fresno.
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In this case, I think the key factor in the decision is that Guduan throws with his left arm.
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Hoyt must really be struggling.
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I’m glad to see Guduan was the call. Personally, I’ve seen all of Hoyt I want to see and we need another lefty in the pen.
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Per the radio this morning, Ohtani needs TJ surgery.
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Ugh. One of those odd things you have to balance with a two-way star. In other words, if they didn't throw him, they'd still have his bat.
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his post was in error.
I don't like this comment. Please BBGs keep my pitching staff healthy.
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this is why I never considered the Angels to be a threat to win the division. Not specifically Ohtani, but I expected their pitching staff to break down over the season. Because they always do.
#unwise
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Sad to hear the Ohtani news. Rival team or not, I was interestedin seeing how it played out over the course of a season.
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I don't like this comment. Please BBGs keep my pitching staff healthy.
Shit...what was I thinking? I deleted my post. Delete yours and there will be no visible evidence for the BB Gods. I have it on good authority they do not work Mondays so there is still time.
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Having never had elbow troubles before, I wonder how feasible it would be to just have him DH for the rest of the season.
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Sad to hear about Ohtani, but when was the last big money Japanese pitcher that didn't need arm surgery soon after coming to MLB?
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Per the radio this morning, Ohtani needs TJ surgery.
Angels GM says nope. (https://www.mlb.com/news/angels-gm-disputes-ohtani-surgery-report/c-280772440)
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Sad to hear about Ohtani, but when was the last big money Japanese pitcher that didn't need arm surgery soon after coming to MLB?
There are only 5 pitchers from Japan currently on MLB rosters. Darvish, Tanaka, Maeda, Ohtani, and Hirano. All but Hirano are also serving time on the DL at the moment.
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There are only 5 pitchers from Japan currently on MLB rosters. Darvish, Tanaka, Maeda, Ohtani, and Hirano. All but Hirano are also serving time on the DL at the moment.
I inadvertently left Iwakuma off the list but he is out too.
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Not an ache or a pain for him, but Yuli goes on 3 day paternity leave, Reed called up.
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Not an ache or a pain for him, but Yuli goes on 3 day paternity leave, Reed called up.
Yuli's wife may have had some pain.
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Yuli's wife may have had some pain.
Right, hence the "for him".
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Right, hence the "for him".
He could have pain transference.
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Correa out of the lineup again:
https://twitter.com/TBTimes_Rays/status/1012411150271680512?s=19 (https://twitter.com/TBTimes_Rays/status/1012411150271680512?s=19)
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Correa to the DL.
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Correa to the DL.
How many games before the ASB?
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Correa to the DL.
I wonder if we call someone up or try to make it 3 days until Yuli returns? I would guess you call someone up but who????
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I wonder if we call someone up or try to make it 3 days until Yuli returns? I would guess you call someone up but who????
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Smith is coming back soon. They just brought Reed up, and they have White. Maybe an OFer?
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How many games before the ASB?
17
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I wonder if we call someone up or try to make it 3 days until Yuli returns? I would guess you call someone up but who????
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Of course you call someone up. You wouldn't leave yourself with a 24-man roster.
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Smith is coming back soon. They just brought Reed up, and they have White. Maybe an OFer?
Makes sense. Marwin plays short and Tucker plays left. So, of course, they're going to call up Fisher.
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so many options. who do you think it will be
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Cuban lefty Cionel Perez gets the call from CC.
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Cuban lefty Cionel Perez gets the call from CC.
Perez was only on the 40-man because the Astros voided his original contract due to a medical issue, correct?
I doubt many people thought he would get the call this year. So his MLB career starting much earlier than expected is directly attributable to failing his physical (and also kicking ass at Corpus).
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Perez was only on the 40-man because the Astros voided his original contract due to a medical issue, correct?
I doubt many people thought he would get the call this year. So his MLB career starting much earlier than expected is directly attributable to failing his physical (and also kicking ass at Corpus).
I like this a lot! He has been very good this year, and he held his own in ST. I read quotes from Luhnow a week or so ago the Brain Trust was still debating whether to consider him an option for the pen or to let him keep developing as a starter.
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Cuban lefty Cionel Perez gets the call from CC.
And back down to CC without getting in a game.
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that has to suck Majorly
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I like this a lot! He has been very good this year, and he held his own in ST. I read quotes from Luhnow a week or so ago the Brain Trust was still debating whether to consider him an option for the pen or to let him keep developing as a starter.
Really disappointing that he didn’t get to pitch in a game. I could understand if you didn’t want to put him in a really high leverage situation, but they could have squeezed him in somewhere last night.
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McCann to the DL, Federowicz up; also Joe Smith will be activated, all according to Chandler Rome on twitter. No word on who makes room for Smith - I assume Reed or White.
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McCann to the DL, Federowicz up; also Joe Smith will be activated, all according to Chandler Rome on twitter. No word on who makes room for Smith - I assume Reed or White.
And the Marlins rub their hands in hopes that their Realmuto negotiating position has increased.
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McCann to the DL, Federowicz up; also Joe Smith will be activated, all according to Chandler Rome on twitter. No word on who makes room for Smith - I assume Reed or White.
McCann’s knee again?
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hope these are two isolated incidents and not a precursor of what is to come. he is such a important part of this team
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McCann’s knee again?
Yes, according to the report.
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And the Marlins rub their hands in hopes that their Realmuto negotiating position has increased.
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I am torn about Realmuto. Yes, I would love to have his offensive production in our lineup but I just don’t know that catcher is a big need for us. At least not a big enough need to give up what it will cost us. If we acquire him then in my mind you probably torpedo any chance of acquiring an impact bullpen arm because of the chips you will have to give up. The article about McCann mentions how well Stassi has performed at the plate and the fact that he is ranked as the top pitch framing catcher in the sport. Realmuto is ranked 29th in that category. You would control JT through 2020 though. It is a tough call. I’m comfortable with Stassi as our starter but I am NOT comfortable with Ferderowicz as the backup so hopefully McCann is back soon.
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What’s wrong with Federowicz as a backup? Has he looked like a butcher back there or something?
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What’s wrong with Federowicz as a backup? Has he looked like a butcher back there or something?
Personally, I wasn’t impressed, but I’m not a talent evaluator either. The brass must not be too worried or he wouldn’t get the call.
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Personally, I wasn’t impressed, but I’m not a talent evaluator either. The brass must not be too worried or he wouldn’t get the call.
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Stassi falls into the primary role, but I wasn't a fan of Fed.
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What’s wrong with Federowicz as a backup? Has he looked like a butcher back there or something?
Pretty sure I remember him catching McCullers and having a very bad first few innings behind the plate.
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Per Rosenthal tweet: McCann to have surgery, out 4-6 weeks. Stassi the regular catcher.
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Per Rosenthal tweet: McCann to have surgery, out 4-6 weeks. Stassi the regular catcher.
Bummer. That’s a pretty good while to be without him. I am totally fine with Stassi behind the plate. I like giving the young guys a chance though and would like to have seen Stubbs versus Federowicz. Garret is hitting over .300 and has an OPS over .850. The book on him is that he is probably too small to be an everyday catcher right now and needs to bulk up. What I read specifically said he would be great in a backup role. Would like to have seen that but I guess the brass would rather have him down there getting regular AB’s.
If McCann’s surgery and recovery doesn’t look like it will progress the way they want, I wonder if Wilson Ramos would be a possibility?? He’s a rental so he would be much cheaper than Realmuto.
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Smith officially activated, Reed sent down.
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well poo
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Per Rosenthal tweet: McCann to have surgery, out 4-6 weeks. Stassi the regular catcher.
If this is the beginning of the end for McCann, I salute him. He and Beltrán were the glue that held the team together when all seemed lost in Yankee Stadium.
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If this is the beginning of the end for McCann, I salute him. He and Beltrán were the glue that held the team together when all seemed lost in Yankee Stadium.
Amen. When he arrived, I was prepared to hate him. When he departs, I will surely miss him.
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If this is the beginning of the end for McCann, I salute him. He and Beltrán were the glue that held the team together when all seemed lost in Yankee Stadium.
He's obviously a tough SOB to have been catching regularly with a bum knee. I've never heard any teammate say a bad thing about him. Barring a rehab setback I'll keep expecting him back for the postseason.
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He's obviously a tough SOB to have been catching regularly with a bum knee. I've never heard any teammate say a bad thing about him. Barring a rehab setback I'll keep expecting him back for the postseason.
Many of them waxed eloquent about how much he meant to the team. McCullers called him the team’s MVP. For his part, McCann said accepting the trade was the best decision of his life.
Funny how firmly held perceptions can be so wrong.
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If this is the beginning of the end for McCann, I salute him. He and Beltrán were the glue that held the team together when all seemed lost in Yankee Stadium.
Truer words could not be said. McCann and Beltran represent the type of baseball player I hope my son grows up to be. They show tremendous respect for the game and how it is played and they don’t cheat it for one second.
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McCann was their Jake Taylor exactly when they needed it. May he make it back for one last ride, at least.
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he seems to be extremely well thought of by even non astros. hoping he gets well and is able to call again
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Truer words could not be said. McCann and Beltran represent the type of baseball player I hope my son grows up to be. They show tremendous respect for the game and how it is played and they don’t cheat it for one second.
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That and a 15 year MLB career doesn’t seem to be hoping for too much for your young son.
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I’m reminded of the line from the movie Miracle:
“I’m not looking for the best players, I’m looking for the right ones.”
McCann was the right man for the job.
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Funny how firmly held perceptions can be so wrong.
What are the "firmly held perceptions"?
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What are the "firmly held perceptions"?
Carlos Gomez is a dickhead.
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X-rays negative--Stassi day to day.
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X-rays negative--Stassi day to day.
Good news.
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X-rays negative--Stassi day to day.
Stubbs hasn’t even been removed from Fresno’s lineup as a precaution.
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Am I right that if Gattis is DHing that he can't replace Federowicz if he gets injured. If that is the case, can the Astros go with having Stassi "day to day" or do they need to 10-day DL him and bring up Stubbs? Because I don't think the Astros want to start Gattis at catcher, but they can't DH him if he is the backup catcher.
Is there anyone else on the active roster right now who can catch?
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What are the "firmly held perceptions"?
about McCann before he got to Houston
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Am I right that if Gattis is DHing that he can't replace Federowicz if he gets injured. If that is the case, can the Astros go with having Stassi "day to day" or do they need to 10-day DL him and bring up Stubbs? Because I don't think the Astros want to start Gattis at catcher, but they can't DH him if he is the backup catcher.
Is there anyone else on the active roster right now who can catch?
Gattis can take the field but they then lose the DH. Pitcher would bat in F-wicz spot.
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about McCann before he got to Houston
Okay then.
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Okay then.
There was a perception that McCann was an uptight, self-righteous prick who flew off the handle at a number of opposing players for showing up his pitcher or whatever. There were a couple notable incidents with then-Brewer Carlos Gomez, and maybe one with Jose Fernandez? Plus he was a Brave and then a Yankee, so totally normal to assume he’s a dickhead.
Anyway, either the perception was wrong, or he mellowed.
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Fedorowicz did a nice job behind the plate tonight filling in for Stassi.
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Dude makes me nervous.
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Dude makes me nervous.
I’m fine with him. He is a veteran big leaguer.
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There was a perception that McCann was an uptight, self-righteous prick who flew off the handle at a number of opposing players for showing up his pitcher or whatever. There were a couple notable incidents with then-Brewer Carlos Gomez, and maybe one with Jose Fernandez? Plus he was a Brave and then a Yankee, so totally normal to assume he’s a dickhead.
Anyway, either the perception was wrong, or he mellowed.
I just remember the one(s) with Gomez, and I'd just about never begrudge someone for getting in that guy's face.
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I just remember the one(s) with Gomez, and I'd just about never begrudge someone for getting in that guy's face.
I actually still don’t have a real problem with Gomez’ antics and attitude. I think he loves playing baseball and likes to have fun doing it. But I do think he’s an idiot in terms of baseball IQ and approach.
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I actually still don’t have a real problem with Gomez’ antics and attitude. I think he loves playing baseball and likes to have fun doing it. But I do think he’s an idiot in terms of baseball IQ and approach.
I have a major problem with showboating. I rooted for him to STFU and play well when he was an Astro, but I am glad he is gone.
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I have a major problem with showboating. I rooted for him to STFU and play well when he was an Astro, but I am glad he is gone.
I never liked Gomez before he became an Astro and I liked McCann since that time he got in Gomez's face for dicking it around the bases that one time. I don't like showboating either. However still, when Gomez was an Astro, I guess I got to know him a little better due to the increased exposure and better understood, at least, his perspective on the behavior, Of course I rooted for him to do well while he was here.
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I will never forget McHugh's "WTF" reaction on that fly ball to CF that Gomez misread by 30 yards or lost in the light or whatever.
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I will never forget McHugh's "WTF" reaction on that fly ball to CF that Gomez misread by 30 yards or lost in the light or whatever.
“What the fuck is he doing?” is the wording I remember.
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https://media.tenor.co/images/dbb3e5ca8f10fd037fbc6b230e552234/tenor.gif
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https://media.tenor.co/images/dbb3e5ca8f10fd037fbc6b230e552234/tenor.gif
That gif is basically Gomez's personal HOF plaque, which would also be equipped with a helmet that falls off whenever anyone tries to read it.
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That gif is basically Gomez's personal HOF plaque, which would also be equipped with a helmet that falls off whenever anyone tries to read it.
...and this video on a loop. (https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/1014571766969069568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1014571766969069568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin.com%2Fajax%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1014571766969069568%26autosize%3D1)
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...and this video on a loop. (https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/1014571766969069568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1014571766969069568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin.com%2Fajax%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1014571766969069568%26autosize%3D1)
"Can't believe he made contact that many times in a row."
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https://media.tenor.co/images/dbb3e5ca8f10fd037fbc6b230e552234/tenor.gif
What I like is Colin doesn't seem angry, he seems genuinely perplexed. As if he were watching someone shovel sand with a pitchfork.
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...and this video on a loop. (https://twitter.com/Cut4/status/1014571766969069568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1014571766969069568&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdeadspin.com%2Fajax%2Finset%2Fiframe%3Fid%3Dtwitter-1014571766969069568%26autosize%3D1)
I'm waiting to hear that he has a broken hand from the subsequent punchout of the water cooler.
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"Can't believe he made contact that many times in a row."
Keep reading...
" He just matched his hit total during his time with the Astros..."
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Correa won't return before the weekend. (https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/carlos-correa-injured-not-ready-to-return/c-285025900)
ETA: Wrong story link.
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Correa won't return before the weekend. (https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/carlos-correa-injured-not-ready-to-return/c-285025900)
ETA: Wrong story link.
This is beginning to sound serious.
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This is beginning to sound serious.
He took some simple grounders during pre-game today.
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I believe their perfect plan is rehab assignment over the ASB and his being back afterwards.
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I believe their perfect plan is rehab assignment over the ASB and his being back afterwards.
He’ll swing a bat today and then a rehab assignment soon if all goes well.
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So, any news on Correa? I was anticipating a rehab assignment that would have him ready for tomorrow's game. Hasn't happened, as far as I know.
Is this something to worry about?
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He’ll swing a bat today and then a rehab assignment soon if all goes well.
McTaggart tweet: So, Hinch said Carlos Correa is working out back in Houston and isn't doing any baseball drills. He won't return any time soon it appears. More to come.
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Ugh.
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McTaggart tweet: So, Hinch said Carlos Correa is working out back in Houston and isn't doing any baseball drills. He won't return any time soon it appears. More to come.
I keep telling myself that if they were really concerned about Correa, they might have gone hard for the Manny Machado rental sweepstakes. Regardless of cost or dealing with O’s.
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I keep telling myself that if they were really concerned about Correa, they might have gone hard for the Manny Machado rental sweepstakes. Regardless of cost or dealing with O’s.
I don’t think we would have ever given up something similar to what the Dodgers gave up for a rental, even if that rental was Machado.
Now, if Correa’s injury will be a nagging one it could push the bullpen issue to second on the list. Getting a bat could become top priority. Abreu at first base with Gurriel moving to third and Bregman to short could be a possibility. Or an outfield bat in left if Tucker can produce pop over the next week could be a possibility. Adam Jones or Starling Marte could be targets with Gonzalez then taking most of the load at short while Yuli and Bregman stay put.
It is going to be an interesting week....
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I don’t think we would have ever given up something similar to what the Dodgers gave up for a rental, even if that rental was Machado.
Now, if Correa’s injury will be a nagging one it could push the bullpen issue to second on the list. Getting a bat could become top priority. Abreu at first base with Gurriel moving to third and Bregman to short could be a possibility. Or an outfield bat in left if Tucker can produce pop over the next week could be a possibility. Adam Jones or Starling Marte could be targets with Gonzalez then taking most of the load at short while Yuli and Bregman stay put.
I think Adam Jones's best days are far behind him, and I would be disappointed if the Astros gave up anybody of consequence to acquire him. I suppose there's a chance that he would be rejuvenated by going to a contending team, but that seems like a risky bet.
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I think Adam Jones's best days are far behind him, and I would be disappointed if the Astros gave up anybody of consequence to acquire him. I suppose there's a chance that he would be rejuvenated by going to a contending team, but that seems like a risky bet.
I tend to agree. I fine with Kemp out there but if they want more power from that position they will have to look somewhere. I too believe Jones best days are behind him but you may could get him for very little especially if you are willing to pay the rest of his salary for the season which would be significant. He could come in a package deal with Britton????? The plus with Jones is not only his power potential but they say he is great in the locker room. Not that we are lacking there but still, more veteran leadership can only be a plus.
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I tend to agree. I fine with Kemp out there but if they want more power from that position they will have to look somewhere. I too believe Jones best days are behind him but you may could get him for very little especially if you are willing to pay the rest of his salary for the season which would be significant. He could come in a package deal with Britton????? The plus with Jones is not only his power potential but they say he is great in the locker room. Not that we are lacking there but still, more veteran leadership can only be a plus.
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You are obsessed with Adam Jones.
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You are obsessed with Adam Jones.
Nah, not really. Like I said, I think his best days are probably behind him. I just mention him because he’s probably available. If we were to grab an outfielder I’d rather have Marte or Rosario. Not sure either are available though and I’m not sure we need a bat anyway.....unless Correa’s problems look like they will linger.
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Has anyone heard an update/prognosis on McCann in the last couple of days?
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We need a bat.
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We need a bat.
We seem to be getting Springer back. That should help a bit.
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We need a bat.
Just curious because I value your opinion. Do you see a bat as a bigger need now than a backend bullpen arm???
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Nah, not really. Like I said, I think his best days are probably behind him. I just mention him because he’s probably available. If we were to grab an outfielder I’d rather have Marte or Rosario. Not sure either are available though and I’m not sure we need a bat anyway.....unless Correa’s problems look like they will linger.
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I hate to tell you this, but his issue has already lingered. I had two disc surgeries and am afraid he is headed in that direction.
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I hate to tell you this, but his issue has already lingered. I had two disc surgeries and am afraid he is headed in that direction.
To quote the great Bill James, "Back injuries are inherently serious."
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To quote the great Bill James, "Back injuries are inherently serious."
Yep.
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I hate to tell you this, but his issue has already lingered. I had two disc surgeries and am afraid he is headed in that direction.
Me too. L4 and L5 for me, but only 1 surgery so far.
Not that we are at that point yet but if his back is as bad as mine, shortstop won’t be in his long term future.
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Me too. L4 and L5 for me, but only 1 surgery so far.
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L5, then L3 and L4.
Need bat first. Correa’s back is no doubt the reason for Abreu. Britton would be nice.
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I hate to tell you this, but his issue has already lingered. I had two disc surgeries and am afraid he is headed in that direction.
Not that it's any of my business, but what age were you? Mine was at 32, and I was 100% over it 4 years later, and no problems since. I am of course not Carlos Correa.
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Not that it's any of my business, but what age were you? Mine was at 32, and I was 100% over it 4 years later, and no problems since. I am of course not Carlos Correa.
Yes, but didn't they use to call you "Righty"?
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Yes, but didn't they use to call you "Righty"?
No.
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Not that it's any of my business, but what age were you? Mine was at 32, and I was 100% over it 4 years later, and no problems since. I am of course not Carlos Correa.
Easy rehab, but he’d miss most of the season.
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Judge out 3 weeks with broken wrist after hbp. Checked swing, opened up, ball came in on his right wrist.
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Judge out 3 weeks with broken wrist after hbp. Checked swing, opened up, ball came in on his right wrist.
Only 3 weeks? That seems pretty optimistic
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Only 3 weeks? That seems pretty optimistic
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Yankees heal more quickly than mere mortals do.
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Only 3 weeks? That seems pretty optimistic
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A chip fracture, not broken clean through.
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I am surprised the whole league havent come down with major fines and suspensions for not protecting a Yankee especially Judge. sarcasm aside just shows to go anyone anytime can get hurt
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The announced time frame is 3 weeks before game-situation bat swinging. I think that makes it "at least 3 weeks."
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AJ pleased by Correa's showing today. Said do it again tmw, then establish a timeline.
https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1023303478045753350?s=19 (https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1023303478045753350?s=19)
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Altuve DL'd. Looks like Tyler White being recalled.
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FYI, Altuve was just placed on the DL.
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Fudge
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Furk.
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Altuve DL'd. Looks like Tyler White being recalled.
This is not a solution. Will Luhnow find a bat?
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This is not a solution. Will Luhnow find a bat?
I sure hope he does. This lineup needs a shot in the arm.
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Per Julia:
Springer is day-to-day with left shoulder soreness. Received treatment during the game.
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Per Julia:
Springer is day-to-day with left shoulder soreness. Received treatment during the game.
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Alex Bregman vs. The A.L.
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Alex Bregman vs. The A.L.
There are times I'd bet on Bregman.
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quick throw salt over your shoulder or eat some kfc
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Marisnick being recalled from the Grizzlies says twitter.
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This presumably means Springer to DL? So, it's not just a day to day thing?
Anyway, I'm glad we can call up Jake. His defense will help and who the fuck knows, he might get a timely hit here or there.
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This presumably means Springer to DL? So, it's not just a day to day thing?
Anyway, I'm glad we can call up Jake. His defense will help and who the fuck knows, he might get a timely hit here or there.
Watching the video it looked like he jammed his shoulder pretty badly. I hope he didn't tear anything in there.
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Well, in his interview last night, there was some hope that it was a day to day thing. I guess not. Must of not been promising when he woke up.
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Watching the video it looked like he jammed his shoulder pretty badly. I hope he didn't tear anything in there.
I’d worry about the collar bone.
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I’d worry about the collar bone.
I’m hopeful that they presumption that they could “treat it” during the game yesterday indicates that it’s not a collar bone fracture, but I’ll continue to prepare for the worst during these injury-plagued times.
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I’m hopeful that they presumption that they could “treat it” during the game yesterday indicates that it’s not a collar bone fracture, but I’ll continue to prepare for the worst during these injury-plagued times.
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Probably right. Correa, Altuve, Springer, and McCann all on the DL at one time? Wow.
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The lineup could construction will be interesting today, especially facing a lefty. I would have expected Kemp-Reddick-Bregman against a righty. Jake will likely get a start if travel allows.
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AJ Hinch on MLB Sirius Radio Channel saying that when he got back to his office last night, Springer was there, shirtless, doing jumping jacks showing him that he had total range of motion. Springer wants to play today but Hinch giving him the day off. It sounded like he isn't going on the DL.
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AJ Hinch on MLB Sirius Radio Channel saying that when he got back to his office last night, Springer was there, shirtless, doing jumping jacks showing him that he had total range of motion. Springer wants to play today but Hinch giving him the day off. It sounded like he isn't going on the DL.
Ha. Love the jumping jacks story.
Maybe he'll be available to pinch hit.
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AJ Hinch on MLB Sirius Radio Channel saying that when he got back to his office last night, Springer was there, shirtless, doing jumping jacks
NTTAWWT
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AJ Hinch on MLB Sirius Radio Channel saying that when he got back to his office last night, Springer was there, shirtless, doing jumping jacks showing him that he had total range of motion. Springer wants to play today but Hinch giving him the day off. It sounded like he isn't going on the DL.
I was listening too when AJ said that. He certainly made it seem like it wasn’t serious and that this is probably just a single day off for George so the Marisnick call up is puzzling. AJ is usually pretty forthcoming on his weekly radio spot. If George was going on the DL for a 10 day respite, I think he probably would have said so, though he certainly doesn’t have too. Reckon someone is being sent down??
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I was listening too when AJ said that. He certainly made it seem like it wasn’t serious and that this is probably just a single day off for George so the Marisnick call up is puzzling. AJ is usually pretty forthcoming on his weekly radio spot. If George was going on the DL for a 10 day respite, I think he probably would have said so. Reckon someone is being sent down??
Tucker?
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I was listening too when AJ said that. He certainly made it seem like it wasn’t serious and that this is probably just a single day off for George so the Marisnick call up is puzzling. AJ is usually pretty forthcoming on his weekly radio spot. If George was going on the DL for a 10 day respite, I think he probably would have said so, though he certainly doesn’t have too. Reckon someone is being sent down??
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On his Sunday pre-game radio interview Luhnow mentioned Marisnick may be back soon as the upcoming road trip takes them to Dodger Stadium and S.F., fields with big CFs to cover.
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Tucker?
I guess anything is possible including George going on the DL. That just isn’t the impression AJ gave when they specifically asked how Springer was doing. I would not send Tucker down but that’s just me. With all of these injuries I’d let the kid play. There is still plenty of time in August to make a waiver trade or call Jake up if Tucker clearly can’t handle it over the next 2-3 weeks.
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On his Sunday pre-game radio interview Luhnow mentioned Marisnick may be back soon as the upcoming road trip takes them to Dodger Stadium and S.F., fields with big CFs to cover.
I guess that does make some sense.
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Tucker?
Yes, Tucker.
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Tucker?
How about Davis? I hope so at least
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Ha. Love the jumping jacks story.
It's an awesome story. And all over America, women could be heard saying "I'll be in my bunk".
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Tucker officially sent back to AAA, Marisnick up:
https://twitter.com/astros/status/1024703355661283329
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Tucker officially sent back to AAA, Marisnick up:
https://twitter.com/astros/status/1024703355661283329
Ok, Tucker got his feet wet. I’m sure we will probably see him back in September. How was Marisnick doing at the plate in Fresno??
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Correa says he'll begin his rehab stint with Corpus tomorrow and should be there about a week. Will play 7 innings in game vs Frisco (in Frisco) tomorrow.
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How was Marisnick doing at the plate in Fresno??
For the season (across a couple of stints at AAA), he's hit .323/.384/.615 -- 65 AB, 6 2B, 2 3B, 3 HR.
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Ok, Tucker got his feet wet. I’m sure we will probably see him back in September. How was Marisnick doing at the plate in Fresno??
This tells me that Springer won't go on the DL. If Springer were going on the DL, why send Tucker down?
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This tells me that Springer won't go on the DL. If Springer were going on the DL, why send Tucker down?
Agree. That makes sense. Springer probably plays Friday. That gives him 2 days to get over any soreness.
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For the season (across a couple of stints at AAA), he's hit .323/.384/.615 -- 65 AB, 6 2B, 2 3B, 3 HR.
Thanks! Looks like he was doing well down there. Hopefully he worked some things out.
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Astros beat reporters (Kaplan, McTaggart, Rome) now reporting the jumping jacks story on Twitter (hours after I first reported it) and saying that Springer is probably available off the bench today to pinch hit.
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All of the injuries have really shaken up the batting order for today. Kemp leading off and Gattis in the 3 hole.
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All of the injuries have really shaken up the batting order for today. Kemp leading off and Gattis in the 3 hole.
It's felt like a spring training lineup recently.
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It's felt like a spring training lineup recently.
Saw this on twitter last night - thought it was very accurate: split squad lookin ass lineup
(https://twitter.com/USCocksman/status/1024479198260473857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fuscocksman)
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Saw this on twitter last night - thought it was very accurate: split squad lookin ass lineup
(https://twitter.com/USCocksman/status/1024479198260473857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fuscocksman)
This site could use more JackAstro.
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This site could use more JackAstro.
Feng shui ain’t got shit on Tron, son.
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Ok, Tucker got his feet wet. I’m sure we will probably see him back in September. How was Marisnick doing at the plate in Fresno??
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I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Tucker on August 30.
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I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Tucker on August 30.
Maybe but Fresno is in a strong position to make the post season. They may keep him there through that.
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For the season (across a couple of stints at AAA), he's hit .323/.384/.615 -- 65 AB, 6 2B, 2 3B, 3 HR.
He [Marisnick] had 50 PA's in his recent July stint and slashed .341/.400/.591 with 1 HR, 4 RBI and 3/4 SB. He also had 2 HBP , 12 Ks and 11 error-free OF games (5 CF, 6 RF).
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This tells me that Springer won't go on the DL. If Springer were going on the DL, why send Tucker down?
Because Marisnick can play CF better? Plus, they can bring him right back (even without an airplane ticket) if they do put George on the shelf.
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This tells me that Springer won't go on the DL. If Springer were going on the DL, why send Tucker down?
Tucker needs to play every day. He is not ready yet.
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Devo to the DL "left hamstring tightness" guess that answers the question of how osuna gets on the roster. Even though this is a couple days early
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Devo to the DL "left hamstring tightness" guess that answers the question of how osuna gets on the roster. Even though this is a couple days early
Cionel Perez up in the interim.
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Cionel Perez up in the interim.
Not a bad idea to have a second lefty in the pen against the dojers
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quesion answered yes, but hope it gets devo back on track
maybe the astros need a mash unit in the clubhouse
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Devo to the DL "left hamstring tightness" guess that answers the question of how osuna gets on the roster. Even though this is a couple days early
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Harris gets a reprieve?
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Harris gets a reprieve?
Apparently so. He would have been my choice but it's not my decision. Maybe in a couple weeks when devo is "ready" Harris will have a mysterious "injury" and they will swap until September when they can both be on the roster
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Apparently so. He would have been my choice but it's not my decision. Maybe in a couple weeks when devo is "ready" Harris will have a mysterious "injury" and they will swap until September when they can both be on the roster
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Was reading today about LA’s latest manipulation of the DL.
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Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 16s
Jose Altuve won’t be activated from the disabled list Sunday, the first day he’s eligible. He has yet to resume baseball activities.
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Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 16s
Jose Altuve won’t be activated from the disabled list Sunday, the first day he’s eligible. He has yet to resume baseball activities.
Maybe after SF then?
Springer in RF tonight.
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Are there any reports on Correa's outing last night? Or is that *next* Thursday?
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Are there any reports on Correa's outing last night? Or is that *next* Thursday?
0-3 with 2 Ks I believe
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0-3 with 2 Ks I believe
As long as he was still standing at the end, I"ll call it a win.
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Devo to the DL "left hamstring tightness" guess that answers the question of how osuna gets on the roster. Even though this is a couple days early
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I've been hoping for a week or so that Devo would get a week or two off with a little DL trip. He looked gassed.
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McCullers to the DL, Osuna activated.
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Brian McTaggart @brianmctaggart 20m ago
With so many off days coming up, Hinch said the Astros can go with a four-man rotation for at least a couple of weeks. They won't need a fifth starter until the 20th or 21st, he said.
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Springer’s x-rays are reported to be negative.
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This “discomfort” thing has become a serious injury.
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This “discomfort” thing has become a serious injury.
Yeah, I don't like the way this is dragging out. I"m beginning to wonder about some sort of meniscus tear or something.
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This “discomfort” thing has become a serious injury.
No kidding. There could be a bone protruding from a guy's thigh, and we'd hear "he's day to day with leg discomfort".
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Correa 2 for 4 with a double Sunday.
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one small ray of light
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No kidding. There could be a bone protruding from a guy's thigh, and we'd hear "he's day to day with leg discomfort".
Correa lower back discomfort
Altuve knee discomfort
McCullers elbow discomfort
Springer (whose thumb was barely attached) thumb discomfort
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The Athletic reports that Derek Fisher is being called up following Springer's thumb injury:
https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1026434243277324288
ETA: Fisher is hitting .259/.384/.477 in about 200 AB at AAA, with 10 doubles, 10 home runs, and 11 steals in 12 tries.
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The Athletic reports that Derek Fisher is being called up following Springer's thumb injury:
https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1026434243277324288
ETA: Fisher is hitting .259/.384/.477 in about 200 AB at AAA, with 10 doubles, 10 home runs, and 11 steals in 12 tries.
That’s Springer to the DL then, right? Hadn’t seen that confirmed.
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ETA: Fisher is hitting .259/.384/.477 in about 200 AB at AAA, with 10 doubles, 10 home runs, and 11 steals in 12 tries.
I’m more concerned about his hitting .176/.222/.419 with 2 doubles and 2 steals in the American League.
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Kemp to the leadoff spot/Fisher to 8 (9 in AL parks)?
Bregman could leadoff but he's currently needed in the rbi spot. Maybe if Correa gets back.
And somebody needs to get busy sacrificing a goat.
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Is Springer with the team or did he go back to Houston?
Have seen nothing about an MRI to check ligament damage, just that x-Rays were negative. Anyone hear any info regarding when/if and MRI will be performed?
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Correa lower back discomfort
Altuve knee discomfort
McCullers elbow discomfort
Springer (whose thumb was barely attached) thumb discomfort
Julius Caesar out with back discomfort.
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Is Springer with the team or did he go back to Houston?
Brian McTaggart @brianmctaggart 22m ago
Carlos Correa, George Springer, Jose Altuve, Lance McCullers Jr. and Chris Devenski are in Texas.
The Astros are in San Francisco. That's not ideal.
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Kemp to the leadoff spot/Fisher to 8 (9 in AL parks)?
Bregman could leadoff but he's currently needed in the rbi spot. Maybe if Correa gets back.
And somebody needs to get busy sacrificing a goat.
This would be my thinking in AL parks. For the two games in San Fran I’m also thinking Kemp to lead off.
Here is my shot at tonight’s lineup.
Kemp CF
Reddick RF
Bregman SS
Gurriel 3B
Gonzalez 2B
White 1B
Maldonado C
Fisher LF
Morton P
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The Athletic reports that Derek Fisher is being called up following Springer's thumb injury:
https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1026434243277324288
ETA: Fisher is hitting .259/.384/.477 in about 200 AB at AAA, with 10 doubles, 10 home runs, and 11 steals in 12 tries.
Ugh
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Is Springer with the team or did he go back to Houston?
Have seen nothing about an MRI to check ligament damage, just that x-Rays were negative. Anyone hear any info regarding when/if and MRI will be performed?
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Mctaggart says Springer is in Texas.
https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1026493093392965637?s=19 (https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1026493093392965637?s=19)
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The Athletic reports that Derek Fisher is being called up following Springer's thumb injury:
https://twitter.com/ByRobertMurray/status/1026434243277324288
ETA: Fisher is hitting .259/.384/.477 in about 200 AB at AAA, with 10 doubles, 10 home runs, and 11 steals in 12 tries.
I guess Tucker's demotion was more about his performance than needing Marisnick up when Springer looked like he'd be out (the first time).
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I guess Tucker's demotion was more about his performance than needing Marisnick up when Springer looked like he'd be out (the first time).
No doubt. They brought him up to see if he could be the postseason LFer. Nope.
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Ugh
My sentiments exactly Jim.....
But don’t know what other options we have unless you try someone else like Straw and I just don’t see them starting the clock on another player.
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Marisnick needs to in the lineup. He has been great at the plate and in the field since he came back.
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Marisnick needs to in the lineup. He has been great at the plate and in the field since he came back.
With Springer out, he likely will be.
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With Springer out, he likely will be.
I think Kemp plays every day now regardless of pitching. Do you think Fish and Jake platoon based on righty/lefty?
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I think Kemp plays every day now regardless of pitching. Do you think Fish and Jake platoon based on righty/lefty?
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I hope not. I think Marisnick plays every day.
ETA Springer to DL. Thumb sprain.
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that catch he made to rob the home run yesterday was amazing. also seems to be good for the teams morale
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Mctaggart says Springer has left thumb strain. It is not UCL sprain and they expect him out 2 weeks.
We'll see. At least they aren't continuing with left thumb discomfort thing
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Mctaggart says Springer has left thumb strain. It is not UCL sprain and they expect him out 2 weeks.
We'll see. At least they aren't continuing with left thumb discomfort thing
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That is good news.
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Just got the official "Springer to the 10-day DL" notification from MLB.
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That is good news.
No doubt. When I saw it, I thought for sure he would be done for this year.
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See, all you Debbie Downers were saying he’s done for the season. Hope is a good thing. Maybe even the best of things. :)
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No doubt. When I saw it, I thought for sure he would be done for this year.
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Ok now see to it that we have good news on McCullers.
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That is good news.
No, it is GREAT news! I’d have bet almost anything he was done.
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See, all you Debbie Downers were saying he’s done for the season. Hope is a good thing. Maybe even the best of things. :)
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Hope to the DL with good thing discomfort.
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Julius Caesar out with back discomfort.
Marie Antoinette out with neck discomfort.
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Hope to the DL with good thing discomfort.
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Fandom to the DL with a band wagon discomfort
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at least they are giving springer a definite diagnosis and not just a sore this or that
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Tonight:
Kemp leading off, playing LF
Jake hitting 8th, CF
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See, all you Debbie Downers were saying he’s done for the season. Hope is a good thing. Maybe even the best of things. :)
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Correa was supposed to miss a couple games as a precaution. He's been out two months. I'm not sure what happened to Brian McCann...kidnapped by aliens, I suspect. I'll be believe Springer will be back in two weeks when he's back in two weeks.
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Correa was supposed to miss a couple games as a precaution. He's been out two months. I'm not sure what happened to Brian McCann...kidnapped by aliens, I suspect. I'll be believe Springer will be back in two weeks when he's back in two weeks.
I think McCann took BP with the team in LA. I got the impression from Luhnow that he is “close.”
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Correa was supposed to miss a couple games as a precaution. He's been out two months. I'm not sure what happened to Brian McCann...kidnapped by aliens, I suspect. I'll be believe Springer will be back in two weeks when he's back in two weeks.
Luhnow said McCann is coming along nicely. May return sooner than expected.
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May return sooner than expected.
I guess it depends on whose expectations. I expected him back three weeks ago.
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Luhnow said McCann is coming along nicely. May return sooner than expected.
Without another injury to a catcher I can’t see how he returns before 9/1.
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McCann squatted for the first time since surgery in July and did take BP in LA.
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/astros-brian-mccann-expands-rehab-activities/ (https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/astros-brian-mccann-expands-rehab-activities/)
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I guess it depends on whose expectations. I expected him back three weeks ago.
He had surgery
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McCullers out till September. Forearm, not elbow.
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McCullers out till September. Forearm, not elbow.
That's much better that it could have been.
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McCullers out till September. Forearm, not elbow.
Yes, forearm strain: https://twitter.com/Chandler_Rome/status/1026622664612302848
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I guess it depends on whose expectations. I expected him back three weeks ago.
It's never been suggested he would be back 3 weeks ago. Where did that come from?
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I'm wondering if lance actually does come back at or near the beginning of September, if he might be moved to the pen for the last of the season.
IF the astros make the postseason I've assumed he would be going to the pen, might make sense to get him there early rather than needing to stretch him back out with only a couple of starts left.
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Hot off the presses, Julia reporting that McCann caught Verlander's bullpen today.
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Hot off the presses, Julia reporting that McCann caught Verlander's bullpen today.
Julia doing a hell of a job while that slacker Mctaggart takes a vacation to spend time with his family.
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Hot off the presses, Julia reporting that McCann caught Verlander's bullpen today.
NTTAWWT
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It's never been suggested he would be back 3 weeks ago. Where did that come from?
I’ve always been a fast healer.
And it was suggested at the time he’d be back after 10 days which would have been July 12th. Of course the injury was much worse than initially thought. Which is my point
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He had surgery
Yes I know. My point is that he was originally out with “knee discomfort” which turned out to require surgery and months of rehab. It was another example of the injury being much worse than they indicated at the time, which contributes to my pessimism that Springer’s injury will be short term.
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I’ve always been a fast healer.
And it was suggested at the time he’d be back after 10 days which would have been July 12th. Of course the injury was much worse than initially thought. Which is my point
Ah, I gotcha,
Well, fast healer, until McCann is back, grab a mitt and get out there!
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Ah, I gotcha,
Well, fast healer, until McCann is back, grab a mitt and get out there!
I’m ready anybyime. I even have my own catcher’s gear
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I’m ready anybyime. I even have my own catcher’s gear
That would be so cool.
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That would be so cool.
Until the first time you caught a Cole 99 mph fastball on your palm.
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Until the first time you caught a Cole 99 mph fastball on your palm.
Yeah, I'd just run away crying.
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Until the first time you caught a Cole 99 mph fastball on your palm.
Or in the nuts. Neither would be good.
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Until the first time you caught a Cole 99 mph fastball on your palm.
Of course I'm talking about Mr. Hudson.
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Without another injury to a catcher I can’t see how he returns before 9/1.
I sort of agree. I don't see them keeping three catchers and wouldn't anticipate a Stassi demotion, but I suppose that could happen.
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I sort of agree. I don't see them keeping three catchers and wouldn't anticipate a Stassi demotion, but I suppose that could happen.
Stassi's out of options. Kemp, Marisnick, White, and Davis could go down. That leaves you very thin on either the infield or outfield though.
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Fisher would be my choice.
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Fisher would be my choice.
I think folks around here vastly underrate Fisher's ability to watch completely hittable pitches all the way into the webbing of the catcher's mltt.
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I thought I read about how the Astros were going to carry three catchers when they traded for Maldonado, but can't seem to find it.
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Someone posted on Twitter last night in response to a comment I made that Luhnow has indicated that the Astros would keep three catchers on the roster during the playoffs. But that makes absolutely no sense to me.
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Someone posted on Twitter last night in response to a comment I made that Luhnow has indicated that the Astros would keep three catchers on the roster during the playoffs. But that makes absolutely no sense to me.
Since none of them are great hitters they may plan to PH for them in late situations. And they may want to insert Maldonado into the game late, if he isn't already, for slowing the running game.
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Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?
I think that McCann is the odd man out. He's maybe the worst defensively of the three. And Stassi is the best hitter.
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Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?
I think that McCann is the odd man out. He's maybe the worst defensively of the three. And Stassi is the best hitter.
Uh, McCann is the best hitter of the 3. And while he isn't as good technically as a defender, hes a leader and the pitchers trust him which counts for a ton
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Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?
I think that McCann is the odd man out. He's maybe the worst defensively of the three. And Stassi is the best hitter.
McCann turned in more than a few high quality at bats last post season. Regardless, the pitching staff consensus was that he was the MVP.
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Fisher would be my choice.
Right, Fisher. Which still leaves you with just 3 outfielders. Unless you want White or Gurriel playing 2b and Marwin in the outfield.
On the bright side IF Correa shows no ill effects from playing all nine innings on back to back days in Corpus the next couple of days he should join the Astros on the next homestand.
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Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?
I think that McCann is the odd man out. He's maybe the worst defensively of the three. And Stassi is the best hitter.
While Luhnow didn’t clarify, I took it to mean they will carry 3 catchers on the 40 man roster, leaving a proven catcher available if someone gets hurt during a series (IF THEY MAKE IT). Don’t want to anger the BBG’s.
I think they keep 3 catchers on the 40 man roster and decide before each series (IF THEY MAKE IT) which two they want to go with for that series. Having that third catcher to fall back on in case of injury is a real plus, especially given McCann’s age and recent fragility. If I am correct in that assumption, and McCann proves to be healthy, then I think Stassi will be the odd man outside the 25 man roster and will be called upon only if there is an injury. Maldonado’s arm will be a big factor IF THEY MAKE THE PLAYOFFS in my opinion.
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I think they keep 3 catchers on the 40 man roster and decide before each series (IF THEY MAKE IT) which two they want to go with for that series. Having that third catcher to fall back on in case of injury is a real plus, especially given McCann’s age and recent fragility. If I am correct in that assumption, and McCann proves to be healthy, then I think Stassi will be the odd man outside the 25 man roster and will be called upon only if there is an injury. Maldonado’s arm will be a big factor IF THEY MAKE TBE PLAYOFFS in my opinion.
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They carried 3 catchers last year and IF they make it again, will do the same. If you lose a player in the middle of a series, he cant be replaced. You can use the 3rd catcher spot by having 1 fewer pitcher. It wont really affect the bench.
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They carried 3 catchers last year and IF they make it again, will do the same. If you lose a player in the middle of a series, he cant be replaced. You can use the 3rd catcher spot by having 1 fewer pitcher. It wont really affect the bench.
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Actually, I’m pretty sure you can replace a player lost to injury during the playoffs as long as the player you are replacing him with is on the 40-man. Pretty sure this has come into play each of the last two seasons with other teams. I could be wrong....
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Uh, McCann is was the best hitter of the 3 in 2013.
FIFY
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Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?
I think that McCann is the odd man out. He's maybe the worst defensively of the three. And Stassi is the best hitter.
No way in hell. The pitchers would go on strike. You cut him last year too.
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FIFY
Max stassi since July 1st
1HR 5RBI .222/.311/.315/.626 slash line. I'll take McCann
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Actually, I’m pretty sure you can replace a player lost to injury during the playoffs as long as the player you are replacing him with is on the 40-man. Pretty sure this has come into play each of the last two seasons with other teams. I could be wrong....
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You might be right. Maybe it's that they miss the next series if replaced. I know there is a big downside to replacing a player mid series to keep teams from taking advantage
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Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?
I think that McCann is the odd man out. He's maybe the worst defensively of the three. And Stassi is the best hitter.
Read this again. This is the craziest statement today. You obviously did not watch last year’s postseason or listen to the pitchers talk about him.
McCann is the odd man out? Hahahahahaha!
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I don't care what McCann's slash line looks like. If it's a big at-bat in the postseason, I want McCann up there over Stassi every time.
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McCann knows how to pitch to big league hitters in highly leveraged situations.
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Read this again. This is the craziest statement today. You obviously did not watch last year’s postseason or listen to the pitchers talk about him.
McCann is the odd man out? Hahahahahaha!
Agree Jim. McCann has an intangible value that is almost impossible to put a value on. If he is healthy, he plays. It will come down to if you want Maldonado’s arm or Stassi’s bat. I will take the arm. Stassi has really cooled off to the point where there isn’t an egregious difference between he and Martin at the plate. I do agree with someone else who said that IF THEY MAKE IT, you could carry 3 active catchers. You won’t need to carry 13 pitchers for the playoffs. Still, I think 2 on the active for a series and the other on the 40 in case of injury is the way to go.
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Actually, I’m pretty sure you can replace a player lost to injury during the playoffs as long as the player you are replacing him with is on the 40-man. Pretty sure this has come into play each of the last two seasons with other teams. I could be wrong....
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Not only that, you can carry a "26th man" on the postseason roster...a catcher who can substitute for a catcher who suffers a concussion. Must be catcher for catcher, however.
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a catchers value is way more than hitting. he stays
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Not only that, you can carry a "26th man" on the postseason roster...a catcher who can substitute for a catcher who suffers a concussion. Must be catcher for catcher, however.
I did not know that. How long has that been in effect?
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Read this again. This is the craziest statement today. You obviously did not watch last year’s postseason or listen to the pitchers talk about him.
McCann is the odd man out? Hahahahahaha!
Comparing last year to this year doesn't make any sense. First, the Astros went out and literally brought in the 2017 AL gold glove catcher -- a guy who shuts down the opposing team's running game.
Second, McCann is coming off of a serious knee injury that required surgery. He was already subpar at catching balls in the dirt (which the Astros purposely do all of the time). Do you think he's going to be better coming off of knee surgery?
Third, you know I watched all of the playoffs last season. Did you? McCann was a terrible hitter in the playoffs last season. He batted .175 and struck out 17 times in 57 ABs. He had one big hit in the World Series. At the same time, the Astros had 8 WPs while he was catching in the playoffs last season.
Finally, maybe you should listening to what the Astros pitchers are saying this season about Stassi and more recently about Maldonado.
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Comparing last year to this year doesn't make any sense. First, the Astros went out and literally brought in the 2017 AL gold glove catcher -- a guy who shuts down the opposing team's running game.
Second, McCann is coming off of a serious knee injury that required surgery. He was already subpar at catching balls in the dirt (which the Astros purposely do all of the time). Do you think he's going to be better coming off of knee surgery?
Third, you know I watched all of the playoffs last season. Did you? McCann was a terrible hitter in the playoffs last season. He batted .175 and struck out 17 times in 57 ABs. He had one big hit in the World Series. At the same time, the Astros had 8 WPs while he was catching in the playoffs last season.
Finally, maybe you should start reading quotes from this season from the Astros pitchers about Stassi and more recently about Maldonado.
You have been on this get rid of McCann kick for two years now. He had two big hits in the NYY elimination games, which were crucial hits in those games. The one big hit you concede in the WS was in Game Five and was a homer off a lefty which regained a three run lead and prevented a nine inning loss. Bregman gave him credit for the win.
What you totally ignore is what McCann means to the pitchers. McCullers called him the team MVP, and JV was giddy McCann was back to catch his bullpen session. I cannot understand this for you, but there is no way in hell he will be the odd man out.
Wait! A WP proves he is a bad catcher? Stassi and Maldano are good defensive catcher, but they cannot handle the pitchers like McCann. JV can hardly contain his irritation with Stassi and has chewed his ass on the mound more than once. There will be a catcher rotation for sure, but McCann is invaluable to the pitching staff.
I am waiting for HH to weigh in on this.
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I am not on a "get rid of McCann" kick.
I am on a "it makes no sense to carry three catchers" kick.
The best defensive catcher the Astros can put out on the field for the remainder of the season and into the playoffs is Maldonado hands down. In the playoffs I want him starting every game if possible. Maldonado calls a great game. If you were watching this week, you would have heard the broadcasters talking about this.
And if you are going to drop one of the Astros three catchers, I'd drop the one coming off of knee surgery (Knees are kind of important for a catcher and play a significant role for hitting as well).
But I'm glad that you admit that Maldonado and Stassi are good defensive catchers.
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I did not know that. How long has that been in effect?
A couple of years now, I think. Since concussions have been a hot topic and they instituted "the protocol".
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I am waiting for HH to weigh in on this.
I think you know where I'll line up on this. Any argument that contains "a terrible hitter in the playoffs" when discussing catcher cuts no ice with me. McCann's value last year was beyond self-evident IMO. He was absolutely the right guy for the job, for a host of reasons that don't include his postseason batting average. If he's 100% and can play, absolutely he's the number one catcher for the remainder of this season. I question whether or not he'll be 100%, but that's a different discussion. Stassi has done an admirable job filling in, and there's a lot to like a Maldonado, who very well may be the answer in the future. But McCann brings more to this team than his batting average and the number of wild pitches thrown when he's behind the plate.
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I think you know where I'll line up on this. Any argument that contains "a terrible hitter in the playoffs" when discussing catcher cuts no ice with me. McCann's value last year was beyond self-evident IMO. He was absolutely the right guy for the job, for a host of reasons that don't include his postseason batting average. If he's 100% and can play, absolutely he's the number one catcher for the remainder of this season. I question whether or not he'll be 100%, but that's a different discussion. Stassi has done an admirable job filling in, and there's a lot to like a Maldonado, who very well may be the answer in the future. But McCann brings more to this team than his batting average and the number of wild pitches thrown when he's behind the plate.
Yep. I did know.
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I am not on a "get rid of McCann" kick.
I am on a "it makes no sense to carry three catchers" kick.
The best defensive catcher the Astros can put out on the field for the remainder of the season and into the playoffs is Maldonado hands down. In the playoffs I want him starting every game if possible. Maldonado calls a great game. If you were watching this week, you would have heard the broadcasters talking about this.
And if you are going to drop one of the Astros three catchers, I'd drop the one coming off of knee surgery (Knees are kind of important for a catcher and play a significant role for hitting as well).
But I'm glad that you admit that Maldonado and Stassi are good defensive catchers.
With catchers, it's not always about whose "best" its, who do the pitchers want/trust. Trust is 90% mental and 10% blocking/catching/throwing out runners. These guys(rotation minus cole) have played with McCann a while now, won a championship throwing to him. That cant be ignored. Are MM and Stassi better defensively? 100%. Are they better offensively? We can debate that but its probably pretty close.
I'll take a healthy McCann and feel pretty good about my choice. If hes not healthy in 6 weeks, IF the astros make the postseason, then we'll talk about MM or stassi as the guy.
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Who is going to pinch hit for them, when there's no bench because they have 3 catchers?
I think that McCann is the odd man out. He's maybe the worst defensively of the three. And Stassi is the best hitter.
Insanity. In-fucking-sanity. Go back and play your video game.
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didn't verlander school stasis in one game? not something you want in the playoffs if the pitcher has a itch the catcher should know where to scratch
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Looks like Correa will return to the lineup tomorrow. Hes at minute maid today but not yet activated
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Looks like Correa will return to the lineup tomorrow. Hes at minute maid today but not yet activated
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Yep. Lineup has been posted. Bregman at short. Davis at third. Yuli at second and White at first. Maldonado behind the plate.
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Damn national league.
https://m.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Astros-batting-Lance-McCullers-injury-DL-13145242.php (https://m.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Astros-batting-Lance-McCullers-injury-DL-13145242.php)
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Damn national league.
https://m.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Astros-batting-Lance-McCullers-injury-DL-13145242.php (https://m.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Astros-batting-Lance-McCullers-injury-DL-13145242.php)
The Chron has just about the worst web page bullshit to content ratio that I've had the displeasure to encounter. Pages take forever to load, and when they're finally loaded there are about two paragraphs on whatever topic you came for.
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The Chron has just about the worst web page bullshit to content ratio that I've had the displeasure to encounter. Pages take forever to load, and when they're finally loaded there are about two paragraphs on whatever topic you came for.
Ever had to use any British news websites? It's pretty fucking awful
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Correa activated, JD Davis sent down.
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I'm a little late to the catcher discussion here, but if for no other reason, the Verlander/Stassi mound visits alone this season tell me that McCann is absolutely on the playoff roster.
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Not sure whether this has been noted anywhere:
Christian Boutwell @byCBoutwell 17h ago
Astros president of baseball ops and GM Jeff Luhnow said he expects C Brian McCann to return to in-game action in 1-2 weeks, either with the Astros or on a Minor League rehab assignment.
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Not sure whether this has been noted anywhere:
Christian Boutwell @byCBoutwell 17h ago
Astros president of baseball ops and GM Jeff Luhnow said he expects C Brian McCann to return to in-game action in 1-2 weeks, either with the Astros or on a Minor League rehab assignment.
Thanks, Nate. That's the first time reference I've seen.
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I am not on a "get rid of McCann" kick.
I am on a "it makes no sense to carry three catchers" kick.
The best defensive catcher the Astros can put out on the field for the remainder of the season and into the playoffs is Maldonado hands down. In the playoffs I want him starting every game if possible. Maldonado calls a great game. If you were watching this week, you would have heard the broadcasters talking about this.
And if you are going to drop one of the Astros three catchers, I'd drop the one coming off of knee surgery (Knees are kind of important for a catcher and play a significant role for hitting as well).
But I'm glad that you admit that Maldonado and Stassi are good defensive catchers.
A catcher calls more than 100 pitches a game. His ability to be elite at that aspect of his job and have the respect of the pitching staff is more important than pitch framing or shutting down the running game. McCann has that in spades over Max Stassi, who has been chewed out by numerous Astros’ pitchers for his game calling this season.
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Altuve won't return until next Friday at the earliest, twitter tells me.
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Altuve won't return until next Friday at the earliest, twitter tells me.
Guess that sounds about right for a best case scenario if there's a rehab stint in there.
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Altuve won't return until next Friday at the earliest, twitter tells me.
Did twitter mention a minor league rehab assignment?
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Did twitter mention a minor league rehab assignment?
Twitter did not.
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Add Jake to the non-walking wounded.
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Marisnick to DL. Tucker up.
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Marisnick to DL. Tucker up.
The hits keep on coming.
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It's the curse of Beltran's zombie glove.
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Who's the next outfielder in line? Straw?
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Who's the next outfielder in line? Straw?
I think it would have to be.....or a waiver trade for someone. Hopefully this is all we will have to endure on the injury front.
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Just a gut feeling, that this time up, Tucker is going to get starTED on very solid major league career. But I still love what Kemp is doing.
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No team could survive the injuries to the major stars we have had. Wee need to be patient and hope we hang on.
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No team could survive the injuries to the major stars we have had. Wee need to be patient and hope we hang on.
That's it.
If it comes down to a one month race for the division, and we're healthy, I like our chances.
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They are now missing 3 core regulars, a starter, a key reliever and a valuable sub. Another core regular is playing his way back after missing 40 games. The last road trip showed a ton of grit and resilience, but it was an anomaly. It is going to continue to be tough sledding for a while.
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If it hasn't already been noted elsewhere:
Christian Boutwell @byCBoutwell 7h ago
#Astros manager AJ Hinch said OF Jake Marisnick (groin) is expected to be out for multiple weeks, at least until late August or into September.
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Who's the next outfielder in line? Straw?
Not sure what to read into this, but JD Davis is the regular in RF at Fresno recently.
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Not sure what to read into this, but JD Davis is the regular in RF at Fresno recently.
That has to do with the fact that Alvarez and Straw are the only healthy outfielders on the Grizz roster.
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That has to do with the fact that Alvarez and Straw are the only healthy outfielders on the Grizz roster.
This epidemic is spreading.
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Indians’ Trevor Bauer to the DL. It could be a while. Stress fracture in fibula I think is what they said on radio.
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Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26 1h ago
AJ Hinch says Chris Devenski will pitch tonight for Triple-A Fresno, Brian McCann will began rehab stint with the Grizzlies Thursday.
Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 25m ago
George Springer took BP, ran the bases and threw to the bases today at Minute Maid Park. All signs point to his activation Friday, the first day he's eligible to return.
Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 24m ago
Jose Altuve progressed to running yesterday on a treadmill. A.J. Hinch said Altuve might try to hit in the cage today or tomorrow, as well.
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Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26 1h ago
AJ Hinch says Chris Devenski will pitch tonight for Triple-A Fresno, Brian McCann will began rehab stint with the Grizzlies Thursday.
.2 IP, 2H, 1K, 0R.
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Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26 1h ago
AJ Hinch says Chris Devenski will pitch tonight for Triple-A Fresno, Brian McCann will began rehab stint with the Grizzlies Thursday.
Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 25m ago
George Springer took BP, ran the bases and threw to the bases today at Minute Maid Park. All signs point to his activation Friday, the first day he's eligible to return.
Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 24m ago
Jose Altuve progressed to running yesterday on a treadmill. A.J. Hinch said Altuve might try to hit in the cage today or tomorrow, as well.
Don't tease me Nate, just don't.
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Martes underwent Tommy John surgery today, out 12-16 months.
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McTaggart tweet:
Francis Martes underwent surgery today in Houston: Right Elbow Ulnar Collateral Ligament Reconstruction.
He's out 12-16 months.
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OWA is day to day with GI discomfort.
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OWA is day to day with GI discomfort.
“SUPER Colon Blow?”
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Berman:
AJ Hinch says George Springer will return to the lineup Friday and that Jose Altuve will take BP today
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move along and pretend no one said that... cant take chances you know
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Does Harris still have a spot when Devo returns? Discuss.
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Not if I have a say.
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Does Harris still have a spot when Devo returns? Discuss.
No if I am calling the shots.
Yes, probably. Perez out.
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No if I am calling the shots.
Yes, probably. Perez out.
You heard it here first.
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No if I am calling the shots.
Yes, probably. Perez out.
Yeah, you are probably right Jim, and I’m gonna be pissed and disappointed with that decision.
I’ve seen about all of Harris that I want to see.
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Does Harris still have a spot when Devo returns? Discuss.
When devo comes back it'll be Perez going down. What will be interesting is when next tuesday comes around and another starter is needed. I'm thinking maybe Harris has a phantom DL stint if they decide to call someone up to make that start.
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I really like what I've seen from Perez. Also Pressly. (Killer Ps?).
It's hard to believe how Harris has totally gone to shit. I guess that relievers just have a shelf-life and he's hit his. (Maybe Devenski too, just saying). Although I thought that was the case with Sipp and he is having a fine 2018 season.
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I really like what I've seen from Perez. Also Pressly. (Killer Ps?).
It's hard to believe how Harris has totally gone to shit. I guess that relievers just have a shelf-life and he's hit his. (Maybe Devenski too, just saying). Although I thought that was the case with Sipp and he is having a fine 2018 season.
Devo was great for the first part of the season.
He looked totally out of gas for two weeks before his "hamstring injury.
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I really like what I've seen from Perez. Also Pressly. (Killer Ps?).
It's hard to believe how Harris has totally gone to shit. I guess that relievers just have a shelf-life and he's hit his. (Maybe Devenski too, just saying). Although I thought that was the case with Sipp and he is having a fine 2018 season.
Can't do much better than Presly did last night.
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I really like what I've seen from Perez. Also Pressly. (Killer Ps?).
It's hard to believe how Harris has totally gone to shit. I guess that relievers just have a shelf-life and he's hit his. (Maybe Devenski too, just saying). Although I thought that was the case with Sipp and he is having a fine 2018 season.
Harris had a shoulder problem last year which put him on the DL twice. He has not been the same since.
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Altuve running the bases:
https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1030563273999970304?s=19 (https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1030563273999970304?s=19)
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Altuve running the bases:
https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1030563273999970304?s=19 (https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1030563273999970304?s=19)
Run today, run tomorrow, if there's no soreness or pain Sunday, then it's time for a rehab stint. Unless they want to activate him straight away
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Run today, run tomorrow, if there's no soreness or pain Sunday, then it's time for a rehab stint. Unless they want to activate him straight away
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Julia just said he’ll have a quick rehab. The Grizzlies are in Tacoma while the Astros are in Seattle, so maybe there.
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Julia just said he’ll have a quick rehab. The Grizzlies are in Tacoma while the Astros are in Seattle, so maybe there.
Yeah I imagine the plan is for him to be activated Friday in LA of Anaheim of California of USA of earth
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Yeah I imagine the plan is for him to be activated Friday in LA of Anaheim of California of USA of earth
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I'm disappointed you didn't go full Carl Sagan with this....
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Chandler Rome @Chandler_Rome 11m ago
Brian McCann said he will travel tomorrow and join Double-A Corpus Christi on Wednesday to continue his rehab assignment. He said this is the best his knees have felt in years.
Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 22s ago
Chris Devenski is also headed to Corpus Christi this week. He said he believes he has two more rehab appearances to go.
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Springer scratched from lineup for tonight's game.
Altuve will apparently be activated tomorrow.
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Springer scratched from lineup for tonight's game.
Hinch says for left quad soreness. Available to pinch hit. Said he would likely deal with thumb soreness the rest of the season.
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Springer scratched from lineup for tonight's game.
Altuve will apparently be activated tomorrow.
He has a memento from his time in Fresno:
https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1031687824871849984?s=19 (https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1031687824871849984?s=19)
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He has a memento from his time in Fresno:
https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1031687824871849984?s=19 (https://twitter.com/brianmctaggart/status/1031687824871849984?s=19)
That's hilarious.
John Olerud had over 2,000 Major League hits before he got his first AAA hit.
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Chandler Rome @Chandler_Rome 11m ago
Brian McCann said he will travel tomorrow and join Double-A Corpus Christi on Wednesday to continue his rehab assignment. He said this is the best his knees have felt in years.
Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 22s ago
Chris Devenski is also headed to Corpus Christi this week. He said he believes he has two more rehab appearances to go.
OMG I'll be at Hooks games this weekend. I might get to see him.
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Tucker sent down to make room for Altuve.
White rewarded for his production with some more time with the big club in August. Guessing he'll do some DH and maybe give Yuli an occasional break from the field.
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Tucker sent down to make room for Altuve.
White rewarded for his production with some more time with the big club in August. Guessing he'll do some DH and maybe give Yuli an occasional break from the field.
Since White got called back up in September 2016 he's hit better than any Astro not named Altuve.
.277/.348/.537 in 210 plate appearances.
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in 9 games since being activated, Correa is hitting .094. His OPS is .319. I sure hope it doesn't take Altuve until September to his kid's weight.
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in 9 games since being activated, Correa is hitting .094. His OPS is .319. I sure hope it doesn't take Altuve until September to his kid's weight.
I know you know this, but back problems are much more likely to linger in a way that affects the ability to swing a bat than is "knee discomfort". I expect Altuve to jump right back into things.
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Since White got called back up in September 2016 he's hit better than any Astro not named Altuve.
.277/.348/.537 in 210 plate appearances.
Great post. I wouldn't have guessed that. Maybe he deserves a full-time job?
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Great post. I wouldn't have guessed that. Maybe he deserves a full-time job?
Could see Yuli getting traded this offseason.
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I know you know this, but back problems are much more likely to linger in a way that affects the ability to swing a bat than is "knee discomfort". I expect Altuve to jump right back into things.
That may be. But Correa is still not hitting, be it because of back problems, knee problems, or because Jobu is on vacation. Results matter.
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Could see Yuli getting traded this offseason.
Gattis would go before Yuli. Yuli's a good defensive 1B, and can play 2nd/3rd if the world ends and the middle half of the infield is injured.
But when would that ever happen?
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Gattis would go before Yuli. Yuli's a good defensive 1B, and can play 2nd/3rd if the world ends and the middle half of the infield is injured.
But when would that ever happen?
Gattis will be a FA at seasons end. I'd bet the Astros will say thanks and good luck at your next stop.
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Cionel Perez optioned, Framber Valdez called up from AAA.
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Peacock still starting.
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Framber stepping into the Sipp role?
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Framber stepping into the Sipp role?
If I had to guess, the plan might be, peacock for 3 innings and valdez for 3 innings then the rest of the pen to finish depending on how the game goes
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That may be. But Correa is still not hitting, be it because of back problems, knee problems, or because Jobu is on vacation. Results matter.
I agree about Correa ... I just do not think that will happen to Altuve. But juneberno.
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If I had to guess, the plan might be, peacock for 3 innings and valdez for 3 innings then the rest of the pen to finish depending on how the game goes
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My thoughts as well, and I expect Valdez to get sent back down tomorrow to bring a fresh arm up.
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My thoughts as well, and I expect Valdez to get sent back down tomorrow to bring a fresh arm up.
I wouldn't be surprised to see devo back tomorrow and valdez back down
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Springer not in the lineup again tonight
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Springer not in the lineup again tonight
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Discomfort?
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Discomfort?
No new news that I've read. The word yesterday was "quad soreness"
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No new news that I've read. The word yesterday was "quad soreness"
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Hinch more or less said on the radio this morning that George is day-to-day. I got the distinct impression that with the off day Thursday, George may rest until Friday.
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Didn't George miss a couple of months with a sore quad awhile back?
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Didn't George miss a couple of months with a sore quad awhile back?
I believe that year(2014) it was a strained quad and was shut down in August that year but there really wasnt much point in bringing him back for the last 2 weeks.
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I believe that year(2014) it was a strained quad and was shut down in August that year but there really wasnt much point in bringing him back for the last 2 weeks.
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Yes.
Quad in 2014, wrist in 2015 (missed 53 games)..
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Mike leake scratched with illness. Its gonna be bullpen vs bullpen tonight
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Mike leake scratched with illness. Its gonna be bullpen vs bullpen tonight
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This may be a wild one.
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Framber stepping into the Sipp role?
He was scheduled to start tonight at AAA so I’m sure it’s just to eat a couple innings tonight behind Peacock and others for the bullpen start
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This may be a wild one.
Whatever happens, extra innings would be worst case scenario for both teams. Let's just get on them early. Please.
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That may be. But Correa is still not hitting, be it because of back problems, knee problems, or because Jobu is on vacation. Results matter.
Correa had a great April and a decent June. That's it. Correa is only hitting .239 (before tonight's game) against righties, which is troubling.
I think that it's time to consider making Bregman the SS and trading Correa, who would fetch a huge price, easily a proven bat or a lockdown closer, and a prospect or two.
I watch Frankie Lindor play almost every night. Frankly, Correa isn't in Lindor's league. Lindor is a better overall hitter, better power hitter, better baserunner, better run producer and better fielder and a switch hitter to boot. I think that Bregman is a better SS right now than Correa. Correa drew comparisons to A-Rod when drafted. Candidly, he's come nowhere close to that comparison, which probably was grossly unfair to Correa. Lindor compares much more favorably to A-Rod, at least in numbers, but even his numbers are much lower than A-Rod's. Simply put, A-Rod was the Mike Trout of his generation.
In my opinion, Ground Control should at least countenance the possibility of trading Correa, probably in the off-season. He's obviously a great kid and a good clubhouse guy, and I'd hate to see him go. However, business is business. Oakland and Seattle are relentless. Our margin for error in repeating is miniscule. Luhnow et al. have to consider every realistic possibility to improve the club, which needs production out of LF and a lockdown closer badly.
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Correa had a great April and a decent June. That's it. Correa is only hitting .239 (before tonight's game) against righties, which is troubling.
I think that it's time to consider making Bregman the SS and trading Correa, who would fetch a huge price, easily a proven bat or a lockdown closer, and a prospect or two.
I watch Frankie Lindor play almost every night. Frankly, Correa isn't in Lindor's league. Lindor is a better overall hitter, better power hitter, better baserunner, better run producer and better fielder and a switch hitter to boot. I think that Bregman is a better SS right now than Correa. Correa drew comparisons to A-Rod when drafted. Candidly, he's come nowhere close to that comparison, which probably was grossly unfair to Correa. Lindor compares much more favorably to A-Rod, at least in numbers, but even his numbers are much lower than A-Rod's. Simply put, A-Rod was the Mike Trout of his generation.
In my opinion, Ground Control should at least countenance the possibility of trading Correa, probably in the off-season. He's obviously a great kid and a good clubhouse guy, and I'd hate to see him go. However, business is business. Oakland and Seattle are relentless. Our margin for error in repeating is miniscule. Luhnow et al. have to consider every realistic possibility to improve the club, which needs production out of LF and a lockdown closer badly.
Wow. Dude is 23 and isn't the best player in baseball. Yeah let's trade him. Come on man.
Yeah Carlos is not playing great right now but lets not forget that he was a top 5 player in baseball before his injury last season and was good after coming back. His defense has improved and while he'll never be a great defensive player, he doesnt hurt you there.
Just because he isn't Lindor, doesnt mean you trade a Carlos Correa. And if you actually look at the career numbers to this point, the two are very similar.
Lindor has a career slash line of
.293/.354/.491/.845
Correa's career slash line is
.281/.360/.488/.848
On offense, it's a wash.
"James harden isn't the best player in the league and we could get a haul for him so we should trade him"
You dont trade a guy for being really really good but not the best in the league. That's fucking stupid.
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Wow. Dude is 23 and isn't the best player in baseball. Yeah let's trade him. Come on man.
Yeah Carlos is not playing great right now but lets not forget that he was a top 5 player in baseball before his injury last season and was good after coming back. His defense has improved and while he'll never be a great defensive player, he doesnt hurt you there.
Just because he isn't Lindor, doesnt mean you trade a Carlos Correa. And if you actually look at the career numbers to this point, the two are very similar.
Lindor has a career slash line of
.293/.354/.491/.845
Correa's career slash line is
.281/.360/.488/.848
On offense, it's a wash.
"James harden isn't the best player in the league and we could get a haul for him so we should trade him"
You dont trade a guy for being really really good but not the best in the league. That's fucking stupid.
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Sigh. We have two big league SSs. You think that it's "fucking stupid" to consider trading one to get help at some other spots? Really. Alright, let me ask you this, smart guy: would you trade Correa or Bregman if it made sense to move either one? If forced to move one, I'd trade Correa and keep Bregman. I'm not proposing some insane move a la Tod the Bod. I wouldn't just trade Correa willy nilly. I trust Luhnow to get value for him if a deal made sense. I merely suggested that it was worthy of consideration.
Frankly, your quick and dirty slash line comparison is incomplete to say the very least because it doesn't show Lindor's true value. In fact, it's fucking stupid to use your parlance. Lindor has already scored 103 runs out of the leadoff spot, and he's on pace to drive in more than 100 runs and steal about 25 bags while hitting 35 homers. Those are All-Star numbers. Monster numbers. Almost A-Rod numbers. Lindor hit 33 dingers last year. Correa tops out at 24 long balls and hasn't driven in 100 (did hit 96) while hitting out of the clean up spot. For you stat geeks, Lindor also has a higher career WAR than Correa. A wash, you say? The numbers say otherwise.
James Harden? WTF I'm not suggesting that we trade Correa because he's not the best SS in baseball. I'm not even suggesting thatt we absolutely move Correa. I merely said that the front office should be open to the possibility of trading him if it made sense and improved the club.
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Correa is going to be a hard decision for the club, IMO. Down the road, not necessarily this off-season. If he were healthy, he has a ceiling of above average SS to all star SS. I used to think he had a ceiling of superstar, but his ABs have too much guess for a superstar bat, and I don't think that is going away.
My main concern with him is that he is brittle. Always seems to be something. He'll eventually demand big money and they might have to choose between him and Bregman. If they have to choose, they'll choose Bregman, and who wouldn't.
At any rate, thinking about dealing him in the off-season isn't crazy at all and a sensible front office is always open to those things. But, they will likely want to see if he can be healthy, and then see if a healthy Correa can make a jump to a higher level.
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I'm not proposing some insane move a la Tod the Bod.
It's Todd the Bod. And don't use my name in vain. Thanks.
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Correa had a great April and a decent June. That's it. Correa is only hitting .239 (before tonight's game) against righties, which is troubling.
I think that it's time to consider making Bregman the SS and trading Correa, who would fetch a huge price, easily a proven bat or a lockdown closer, and a prospect or two.
I watch Frankie Lindor play almost every night. Frankly, Correa isn't in Lindor's league. Lindor is a better overall hitter, better power hitter, better baserunner, better run producer and better fielder and a switch hitter to boot. I think that Bregman is a better SS right now than Correa. Correa drew comparisons to A-Rod when drafted. Candidly, he's come nowhere close to that comparison, which probably was grossly unfair to Correa. Lindor compares much more favorably to A-Rod, at least in numbers, but even his numbers are much lower than A-Rod's. Simply put, A-Rod was the Mike Trout of his generation.
In my opinion, Ground Control should at least countenance the possibility of trading Correa, probably in the off-season. He's obviously a great kid and a good clubhouse guy, and I'd hate to see him go. However, business is business. Oakland and Seattle are relentless. Our margin for error in repeating is miniscule. Luhnow et al. have to consider every realistic possibility to improve the club, which needs production out of LF and a lockdown closer badly.
You are fucking crazy.
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You are fucking crazy.
Trade Correa in the offseason in order to improve the chances of repeating the championship this year? What could possibly be wrong with that logic?
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McCann and Devenski expected to play tonight in CC.
And I think trading Correa is wrong for a multitude of reasons.
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McCann and Devenski expected to play tonight in CC.
And I think trading Correa is wrong for a multitude of reasons.
Total insanity.
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grammer and speling always important here
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Total insanity.
And even if you thought you could build a stronger roster without him, trading him after this season would be selling low in the worst possible way.
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And even if you thought you could build a stronger roster without him, trading him after this season would be selling low in the worst possible way.
I have paid my last attention to his posts. He is an Indians fan now, at least to me.
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Sigh. We have two big league SSs. You think that it's "fucking stupid" to consider trading one to get help at some other spots? Really. Alright, let me ask you this, smart guy: would you trade Correa or Bregman if it made sense to move either one? If forced to move one, I'd trade Correa and keep Bregman. I'm not proposing some insane move a la Tod the Bod. I wouldn't just trade Correa willy nilly. I trust Luhnow to get value for him if a deal made sense. I merely suggested that it was worthy of consideration.
Frankly, your quick and dirty slash line comparison is incomplete to say the very least because it doesn't show Lindor's true value. In fact, it's fucking stupid to use your parlance. Lindor has already scored 103 runs out of the leadoff spot, and he's on pace to drive in more than 100 runs and steal about 25 bags while hitting 35 homers. Those are All-Star numbers. Monster numbers. Almost A-Rod numbers. Lindor hit 33 dingers last year. Correa tops out at 24 long balls and hasn't driven in 100 (did hit 96) while hitting out of the clean up spot. For you stat geeks, Lindor also has a higher career WAR than Correa. A wash, you say? The numbers say otherwise.
James Harden? WTF I'm not suggesting that we trade Correa because he's not the best SS in baseball. I'm not even suggesting thatt we absolutely move Correa. I merely said that the front office should be open to the possibility of trading him if it made sense and improved the club.
The thing is, I dont have to move either one right now. So I wouldn't move either. No matter what package you got for Correa, you are taking a huge risk. Whose gonna play 3rd now? There's a pretty real chance none of the prospects work out. Remember future ace Jared cosart and cleanup man Jon singleton? Yes I realize those guys were not brought in by luhnow. What about mark Appel? My point is that why take the risk? You know that at the very least you have an average if slightly below average defensive SS who is well above average and most of the time all star offensively. If push comes to shove one day, you can swap Correa and bregman for each other.
If your point is to trade him because he has value, why stop there? Trade Springer, McCullers, cole has had a couple bad starts so let's move him before his value drops.
And why bring up runs scored? Of course a leadoff hitter is going to score more runs than a cleanup hitter. Correa would have had 30+ homers last year if he was healthy so "topping out at 24" isn't fair. Yes Lindor has more speed and will steal more bags but we dont need steals from Correa. I'm not arguing that Correa is better than Lindor but you are selling Correa way short for what has been offensively.
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you can swap Correa and bregman for each other.
I bet they've thought about this. Seems to me 3rd would be much less demanding on Correa's back and Bregman appears he could handle SS well. I wonder if CC's ego would make it inconceivable though. Plus it would hurt his value on the FA market when that comes.
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Total insanity.
He needs to find his happy place after yesterday's news.
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you can swap Correa and bregman for each other.
I bet they've thought about this. Seems to me 3rd would be much less demanding on Correa's back and Bregman appears he could handle SS well. I wonder if CC's ego would make it inconceivable though. Plus it would hurt his value on the FA market when that comes.
I'm curious of others take on 3rd being less demanding on the back.
If it is less demanding, from articles written about him, he seems very down to earth and a good clubhouse guy.
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McCann and Devenski expected to play tonight in CC.
And I think trading Correa is wrong for a multitude of reasons.
I agree BG. But I am concerned about his ability to stay healthy and in the lineup. I don’t agree with the other posters but I see the point they are trying to make.
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I agree BG. But I am concerned about his ability to stay healthy and in the lineup. I don’t agree with the other posters but I see the point they are trying to make.
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I bet Springer has missed more games with injury than Correa.
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I bet Springer has missed more games with injury than Correa.
You could be right about that.
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2018 games played
Springer 112
Correa 83
2017
Springer 140
Correa 109
2016
Springer 162
Correa 153
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A Correa trade proposal turns out to be the deciding factor in a consensus sway regarding Hap's relative sanity. Intriguing.
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If they trade Correa my reaction will make Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction look calm and measured.
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A Correa trade proposal turns out to be the deciding factor in a consensus sway regarding Hap's relative sanity. Intriguing.
My conclusion is related to baseball only.
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My conclusion is related to baseball only.
OK.
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Wow, folks! Lighten up, for crying out loud. I don't want to trade Correa either. And the last time I checked, I am still sane, at least most of the time any way. I merely raised the possibility that the club might be well served by considering what would be a blockbuster trade.
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Wow, folks! Lighten up, for crying out loud. I don't want to trade Correa either. And the last time I checked, I am still sane, at least most of the time any way. I merely raised the possibility that the club might be well served by considering what would be a blockbuster trade.
I think that it's time to consider making Bregman the SS and trading Correa, who would fetch a huge price, easily a proven bat or a lockdown closer, and a prospect or two.
In my opinion, Ground Control should at least countenance the possibility of trading Correa, probably in the off-season.
You think that it's "fucking stupid" to consider trading one to get help at some other spots? Really. Alright, let me ask you this, smart guy: would you trade Correa or Bregman if it made sense to move either one? If forced to move one, I'd trade Correa and keep Bregman. I'm not proposing some insane move a la Tod the Bod. I wouldn't just trade Correa willy nilly. I trust Luhnow to get value for him if a deal made sense. I merely suggested that it was worthy of consideration.
I'm not even suggesting thatt we absolutely move Correa. I merely said that the front office should be open to the possibility of trading him if it made sense and improved the club.
You're right though. You never said you want to trade him.
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You're right though. You never said you want to trade him.
#fakeposts
Sad!
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https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/mariners-send-out-rested-gonzales-to-face-astros-082218 (https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/mariners-send-out-rested-gonzales-to-face-astros-082218)
Altuve said he was glad to be back after missing 21 games with a sore right knee. It was his first time on the disabled list in his eight-year career.
“I’m excited,” Altuve told MLB.com. “This is a great team. I know you guys know I love every single part about this team and the way they play. We’re in first place and most likely we’re going to be in the playoffs, and I have a lot of confidence in my teammates, and I just want to be a part of this.”
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From CC Caller:
[Manager Omar] Lopez said catcher Brian McCann, who is coming back from knee surgery, looks good and is likely to catch again during Sunday’s game against San Antonio. “He feels strong and the most important thing for him right now is he wants to get more at-bats to make some adjustments and feel comfortable,” Lopez said. “The knee is perfectly fine.”
Lopez said pitcher Chris Devenski could pitch at least one more time with the Hooks and that outing will likely come on Monday during the final game of the recent seven-game homestand.
https://www.caller.com/story/sports/local/baseball/corpus-christi-hooks/2018/08/24/hooks-pitcher-astros-prospect-forrest-whitley-scratched-start/1090124002/
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And with the Grizzlies tonight, Marisnick went 2-4 with a double and a blast. Also struck out twice.
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So who gets sent down when Marisnick returns, Kemp or White?
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Nevermind, forgot rosters are expanding in a couple of days. But if they weren’t it’d be an interesting call
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I doubt he’d return at the expense of either of those.
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Luhnow says on pregame that the goal is to get LMJ back ready for a postseason relief role.
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McCann homered and Devo gave up one on the second pitch.
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McCann homered and Devo gave up one on the second pitch.
McCannonball!!
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And a hit against the shift.
Devo still looked like he has some discomfort.
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And a hit against the shift.
Devo still looked like he has some discomfort.
Ooh. Not that ugly word.
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If anyone hasn't seen it at this point...
Brian McTaggart @brianmctaggart 16h ago
McCann, Marisnick and Devenski should all return Saturday from the DL. That's the first day rosters can be expanded.
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DL for CFM with right shoulder discomfort. Hope is he'll miss just one start. Devenski activated.
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DL for CFM with right shoulder discomfort. Hope is he'll miss just one start. Devenski activated.
Sigh, the dreaded “discomfort” contagion continues.
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Devenski? I would have assumed a starter. Are they going to do an all-pen game on Sunday?
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DL for CFM with right shoulder discomfort. Hope is he'll miss just one start. Devenski activated.
Would have been nice to know before the game last night.
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Would have been nice to know before the game last night.
Manly men pitch through the pain.
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Devenski? I would have assumed a starter. Are they going to do an all-pen game on Sunday?
Rosters expand on Saturday.
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Not an Astro ache and pain, but it concerns the Astros given they are playing the Angels next. Albert Pujols had knee surgery and is done for the season.
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Not an Astro ache and pain, but it concerns the Astros given they are playing the Angels next. Albert Pujols had knee surgery and is done for the season.
MLB Network keeps saying "6-8 weeks", as if the Angels will still be playing baseball in 6 weeks.
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Devenski? I would have assumed a starter. Are they going to do an all-pen game on Sunday?
Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 19m
Brian McCann will catch for the Astros on Saturday, the day he’s activated from the DL. It’s still uncertain which pitcher will start for the Astros that day. It could be a starter from Triple A or a bullpen game.
If they go the Fresno route, Trent Thornton is the Grizz scheduled starter tomorrow and Josh James is the scheduled starter for Saturday. Either would need to be added to the 40-man roster if called up. Given that both are Rule 5 eligible this winter, that may simply be accelerating a process that would otherwise occur anyway.
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Now that he's returned, apparently the plan for Devenski going forward is to be used less overall and more often against LHH.
https://www.chron.com/sports/astros/article/Chris-Devenski-returns-to-different-role-in-13194988.php?utm_campaign=twitter-desktop&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social
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Not an Astro ache and pain, but it concerns the Astros given they are playing the Angels next. Albert Pujols had knee surgery and is done for the season.
He should retire. To continue to play at such a poor level is tarnishing his otherwise fabulous career.
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He should retire. To continue to play at such a poor level is tarnishing his otherwise fabulous career.
His contract is heavily backloaded (he made well below market his first couple years in LA), so retiring now would cost him $87 million. The Angels can release him or try to work out a restructuring of his contract if they decide he's a waste of a roster spot.
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If they go the Fresno route, Trent Thornton is the Grizz scheduled starter tomorrow and Josh James is the scheduled starter for Saturday. Either would need to be added to the 40-man roster if called up. Given that both are Rule 5 eligible this winter, that may simply be accelerating a process that would otherwise occur anyway.
It's James.
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Looking forward to this. I see Ohtani is also going that night.
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It's James.
In the words of Carson Cistulli (and everyone else at Fangraphs by now), "Josh JAMES."
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Interested to see what Deetz can do. I am guessing that he will get called up tomorrow or soon after.
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In addition to the McCann activation, Marisnick also taken off DL and Cionel Perez recalled.
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New UCL damage found--TJS recommended for Ohtani.
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New UCL damage found--TJS recommended for Ohtani.
During Springer’s miked up segment, he said about Ohtani “He’s lost his velo.”
LAA fucked this up, imo.
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During Springer’s miked up segment, he said about Ohtani “He’s lost his velo.”
LAA fucked this up, imo.
You mean the franchise that pissed away the prime of a generational player fucked up?
Go figure.
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New UCL damage found--TJS recommended for Ohtani.
That really sucks. Get him healthy and let him hit full-time.
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That really sucks. Get him healthy and let him hit full-time.
He is going to continue as DH. If I were his agent, I’d be saying “Uh, no.”
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You mean the franchise that pissed away the prime of a generational player fucked up?
Go figure.
It's kind of crazy that Trout has played in one playoff series. A 3 game sweep by the Royals in 2014, in which he batted .083.
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Scioscia and his buffet physique have been around way too long.
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He is going to continue as DH. If I were his agent, I’d be saying “Uh, no.”
Yeah, what's the point? They're out of playoff contention. Shut him down.
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LAA fucked this up, imo.
After LA signed him, reports came out (https://sports.yahoo.com/recent-physical-shows-angels-shohei-ohtani-damaged-elbow-ligament-035554341.html) that his UCL was already damaged and that he'd had platelet-rich plasma injections a couple months before signing to try to heal it. Garrett Richards did the same thing (https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2017/02/16/angels-richards-confident-in-comeback-without-tommy-john/98017070/) in 2016 and 2017, only to get hurt again and finally have TJS this season (https://www.mlb.com/news/garrett-richards-to-have-tommy-john-surgery/c-285379814).
If LA's medical staff is less inclined toward surgery than other teams', it makes sense that Ohtani would go there hoping to avoid TJS altogether. Other team docs might've taken a look at his medicals last offseason and recommended immediate surgery.
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Scioscia and his buffet physique have been around way too long.
I think their problems are way above Scioscia level. Bad decisions on contracts for one. Pujols is rather obvious.
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I think their problems are way above Scioscia level. Bad decisions on contracts for one. Pujols is rather obvious.
Arte Moreno was head cheerleader of the effort to sign both Pujols and Josh Hamilton, and reportedly backed Scioscia during his power struggle with GM Jerry Dipoto in 2015.
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He is going to continue as DH. If I were his agent, I’d be saying “Uh, no.”
Is 162ish of gold glove RF and a hitter in front/behind Trout worth the 20 starts you'll get out of him? Or the combo of both (since he doesn't play the day before/after starts)?
I really don't know, great problem to have.
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Is 162ish of gold glove RF and a hitter in front/behind Trout worth the 20 starts you'll get out of him? Or the combo of both (since he doesn't play the day before/after starts)?
I really don't know, great problem to have.
Is that the scouting report on Ohtani outfield-wise?
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Is that the scouting report on Ohtani outfield-wise?
Yes. Great arm and he's fast.
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Is 162ish of gold glove RF and a hitter in front/behind Trout worth the 20 starts you'll get out of him? Or the combo of both (since he doesn't play the day before/after starts)?
I really don't know, great problem to have.
This season they got neither.
They should stop trying to write the script for a movie, plant his ass in the lineup and watch him dominate, because whatever equation they used to calculate his worth as a dual threat, you can multiply that by zero during his recovery from TJS.
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Can you play right field while needing TJS at the same time?
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Can you play right field while needing TJS at the same time?
DH
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DH
Now when I say "Hello Mr. Thompson" and stomp on your foot, you smile and nod.
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Now when I say "Hello Mr. Thompson" and stomp on your foot, you smile and nod.
I think he’s talking to you...
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Now when I say "Hello Mr. Thompson" and stomp on your foot, you smile and nod.
Hello Mr Thompson.
/stomp stomp/
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WTF. Peacock with hand, foot and mouth disease
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2795311-brad-peacock-diagnosed-with-hand-foot-and-mouth-disease?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
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WTF. Peacock with hand, foot and mouth disease
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2795311-brad-peacock-diagnosed-with-hand-foot-and-mouth-disease?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
He probably forgot to was his hands often enough in Boston.
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Witchcraft:
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1040021055551819776?s=19 (https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1040021055551819776?s=19)
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Witchcraft:
https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1040021055551819776?s=19 (https://twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1040021055551819776?s=19)
I lost a good five minutes being mesmerized by that gif.
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I lost a good five minutes being mesmerized by that gif.
I think I watched it 14 times? Maybe more.
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WTF. Peacock with hand, foot and mouth disease
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2795311-brad-peacock-diagnosed-with-hand-foot-and-mouth-disease?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
Back with the team.
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Springer day-to-day after jamming his shoulder on that 8th inning diving attempt last night. At least they didn't they didn't use the "discomfort" word.
https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/george-springer-exits-with-shoulder-injury/c-294703196
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Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan 1m ago
Lance McCullers Jr. was up to 94 mph in his bullpen session today in West Palm Beach, A.J. Hinch said. He also faced a hitter. He’ll throw another session on Tuesday.
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sounds good, but will it be enough to get back by the end of the season
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sounds good, but will it be enough to get back by the end of the season
He'll be back.
They've probably already mapped out how many pitches/ innings they want him to throw down the final stretch.
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If they make a five game series, they are going to have to make some tough decisions on the roster.
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Correa shut down for rest of homestand.
McCullers likely to be activated in Toronto first part of next week.
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Correa shut down for rest of homestand.
McCullers likely to be activated in Toronto first part of next week.
I hope he gets some reps the last week of the season. A’s may make that hard.
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Hunter Atkins @HunterAtkins35 3m ago
George Springer is not in the Astros' lineup because he's banged up. His leg has bothered him (Hinch noticed he ran "a little funny") and he aggravated his previously sprained thumb on a swing last night.
Mark Berman @MarkBermanFox26 14m ago
AJ Hinch says Carlos Correa will also be out tomorrow and then they'll see for the rest of the week.
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McCullers likely to be activated in Toronto first part of next week.
Activated today.
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Activated today.
I saw this morning Hinch hoped to get him in the game either tonight or tomorrow.
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every game takes on such meaning now. Hinch has to have nerves of steel.
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Springer is in the lineup tonight. So is JD Davis. Great White sits.
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Springer is in the lineup tonight. So is JD Davis. Great White sits.
He never sits. He lurks.
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Charlie Morton is back in Houston with his wife who is expecting their fourth child in the next few days. Hinch was confident that he would pitch again this season.
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He never sits. He lurks.
https://youtu.be/Un-hRIvcUJE
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now i cant get the freaking jaws theme out of my head
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Correa to play as DH on Wednesday. Also, Rodon gets help from the pitching coaches. (https://www.mlb.com/astros/news/carlos-correa-set-to-return-wednesday/c-295984976)
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Julia Morales @JuliaMorales 31 minutes ago
When Altuve fell he hit his right knee on the ground and had same knee soreness he’d been battling lately. Scary at first but felt better with time.
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Julia Morales @JuliaMorales 31 minutes ago
When Altuve fell he hit his right knee on the ground and had same knee soreness he’d been battling lately. Scary at first but felt better with time.
Let’s all hope it doesn’t progress to the dreaded right knee discomfort.
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McCullers' elbow: A tweet from freelance reporter Joe DeMayo, citing a source, stated Astros righthander Lance McCullers Jr. pitched through a torn ulnar collateral ligament during the postseason and would "likely require" Tommy John surgery in the offseason.
Morton's shoulder: ...said his shoulder joint is "fine" and he'd like to keep playing. "I don't know. I'm not sure yet," Morton said when asked if he'd address his shoulder in the offseason. "Probably try to see how it feels here in the short term, see what needs to be done. But moving forward here in the next week we'll try to figure something out and see if I need to see somebody."
Altuve's knee: Asked specifically what his injury was, Altuve said (with a smile): "The trainers told me, but I have a short memory."
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/Astros-Balls-Strikes-Injuries-and-the-final-13319787.php?utm_campaign=twitter-premium&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social
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McCullers' elbow: A tweet from freelance reporter Joe DeMayo, citing a source, stated Astros righthander Lance McCullers Jr. pitched through a torn ulnar collateral ligament during the postseason and would "likely require" Tommy John surgery in the offseason.
This guy is a "reporter" for the Mets' SB Nation site, so I'd love to see who his Astros source is. I, for one, don't buy that the Astros would knowingly pitch McCullers with a blown UCL.
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This guy is a "reporter" for the Mets' SB Nation site, so I'd love to see who his Astros source is. I, for one, don't buy that the Astros would knowingly pitch McCullers with a blown UCL.
Doesn't have to be fully blown to require surgery. If a partial tear is severe enough and surgery is the recommended route, you can't do any further harm by continuing to pitch. If it becomes fully torn, surgery either way.
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Good source or not, McCullers' quotes aren't encouraging.
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Good source or not, McCullers' quotes aren't encouraging.
No they are not...
McCullers was coy when asked about a report stating he was pitching through a tear of his ulnar collateral ligament and was headed for Tommy John surgery, which would put him out for all of 2019. "We're going to figure all that stuff out," he said. "I'm pretty banged up. Other guys are banged up, too. That's going to be something down the road the next couple of days, the next couple of weeks we'll figure out."When asked if he was headed for surgery, McCullers said: "We've got to speak with the training staff. I'm going to do my standard postseason MRI stuff, see all the doctors, see how I'm feeling. I've definitely been throwing through some stuff."
https://www.mlb.com/news/mccullers-altuve-may-face-offseason-surgery/c-298337048
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Hadn't seen those quotes yet. But I do wonder how a Mets blogger knows more than the actual Astros beat writers.
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Hadn't seen those quotes yet. But I do wonder how a Mets blogger knows more than the actual Astros beat writers.
Very fair question.
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Hadn't seen those quotes yet. But I do wonder how a Mets blogger knows more than the actual Astros beat writers.
I don't.
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Altuve's knee: Asked specifically what his injury was, Altuve said (with a smile): "The trainers told me, but I have a short memory."
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texas-sports-nation/astros/article/Astros-Balls-Strikes-Injuries-and-the-final-13319787.php?utm_campaign=twitter-premium&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social
He had surgery yesterday.
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He had surgery yesterday.
I say that a little while ago on the TV scroll.t But I still haven't found any description of what the problem was.
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wow imagine the pain he went through and got out there every day and played
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If McCullers does indeed have to have Tommy john, I'd imagine that will happen within the next week or so. That would give him a full year plus next offseason to recover/rehab. I'm very sceptical about a mets blogger having insider info that say Kaplan doesnt have but if it's true we should find out soon
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I say that a little while ago on the TV scroll.t But I still haven't found any description of what the problem was.
Even the Astros' press release failed to describe the type of knee surgery he had.
Maybe the Mets blogger can find out for us.
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Just wildly guessing, but if he was able to play and put off the surgery I'd guess meniscus.
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Even the Astros' press release failed to describe the type of knee surgery he had.
Maybe the Mets blogger can find out for us.
It was surgery for knee discomfort.
Duh.
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It was surgery for knee discomfort.
Duh.
Knee replacement. No big deal.
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Just wildly guessing, but if he was able to play and put off the surgery I'd guess meniscus.
That would explain how his pain would be more obvious at times, rather than all the time.
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That would explain how his pain would be more obvious at times, rather than all the time.
He seemed to be fine going in straight line but in a lot of pain trying to move laterally.
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He seemed to be fine going in straight line but in a lot of pain trying to move laterally.
...and sliding into 2b.
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Altuve surgery; patella avulsion fracture per McTaggert.
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Altuve surgery; patella avulsion fracture per McTaggert.
An avulsion fracture involves the detachment of a bone fragment that results from the pulling away of a ligament, tendon, or joint capsule from its point of attachment on a bone.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Ow.
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An avulsion fracture involves the detachment of a bone fragment that results from the pulling away of a ligament, tendon, or joint capsule from its point of attachment on a bone.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Ow.
This.
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An avulsion fracture involves the detachment of a bone fragment that results from the pulling away of a ligament, tendon, or joint capsule from its point of attachment on a bone.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Ow.
I think a can forgive a few balls that weren’t completely run out.
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I have a feeling this team was much more injured than we realized. The fact that they had as much success as they did shows how much fight they did have.
And Joe West just pisses me off even more now knowing what he stole from Altuve.
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I have a feeling this team was much more injured than we realized. The fact that they had as much success as they did shows how much fight they did have.
And Joe West just pisses me off even more now knowing what he stole from Altuve.
Yep. They battled thru a lot.
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I have a feeling this team was much more injured than we realized. The fact that they had as much success as they did shows how much fight they did have....
A comment from an Astros fan summed it up well responding to this review of the playoffs and look at the Astros future.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/10/19/astros-left-wondering-what-went-wrong-after-season-ends-red-sox-alcs/?utm_term=.79df8b4b2af6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/10/19/astros-left-wondering-what-went-wrong-after-season-ends-red-sox-alcs/?utm_term=.79df8b4b2af6)
(MyHouston)The general opinion on our drive home last night was that the Red Sox played really well -- they were impressive time and time again.....
....I can't imagine how brutal it would have been for the Astros if they had won last night and then had to make the trip to Boston to try to pull-out two more wins. Maybe, for the sake of our players, all ended well, and our beloved Altuve and other players can get the medical care and recovery time needed to mend the injuries mentioned in the article....
Cannot imagine how painful if would have been for Altuve to try to push thru his pain for as many as 9 more games to win another WS now.
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An avulsion fracture involves the detachment of a bone fragment that results from the pulling away of a ligament, tendon, or joint capsule from its point of attachment on a bone.
Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Ow.
This happened to me in my hip when I was in high school (I didn’t know the name and just described it to people) it was unforgettably painful. I have no clue how Altuve played.
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This happened to me in my hip when I was in high school (I didn’t know the name and just described it to people) it was unforgettably painful. I have no clue how Altuve played.
He hit .268/.359/.402 after the injury which is still 17% above the average MLB hitter. That man is incredible.
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A comment from an Astros fan summed it up well responding to this review of the playoffs and look at the Astros future.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/10/19/astros-left-wondering-what-went-wrong-after-season-ends-red-sox-alcs/?utm_term=.79df8b4b2af6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/10/19/astros-left-wondering-what-went-wrong-after-season-ends-red-sox-alcs/?utm_term=.79df8b4b2af6)
Cannot imagine how painful if would have been for Altuve to try to push thru his pain for as many as 9 more games to win another WS now.
Note to self, never read the comments. I hate Red Sox fans. Yeah, the Astros lost and yeah, Bostom is a good team. But, don't think we won't support our team and think they are great. I would expect no less from any fan. I don't know how both teams lose the WS, but I hope they do.
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Note to self, never read the comments. I hate Red Sox fans. Yeah, the Astros lost and yeah, Bostom is a good team. But, don't think we won't support our team and think they are great. I would expect no less from any fan. I don't know how both teams lose the WS, but I hope they do.
I like readers comments, I often take a look without even reading the article. The comments can be e lot more entertaining than the article and a lot of times will reveal the writer as one-eye, a complete dickhead or both. I also think of various scenarios that has both teams losing... but I am a bit of a hater.
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I like readers comments, I often take a look without even reading the article. The comments can be e lot more entertaining than the article and a lot of times will reveal the writer as one-eye, a complete dickhead or both. I also think of various scenarios that has both teams losing....
Yes!
Prior to the Internet, if you're hungry enough for Astros news while living in a foreign land (o/s TX), you will read whatever you can get - including comments - and even listen to games on 'enemy' stations that have strong radio signals, like SL, Atl, Cinn, etc., when they play the Astros.
Slim pickings, but devoured.
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Correa having surgery for a deviated septum on Monday.
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Correa having surgery for a deviated septum on Monday.
I wonder when that happened.
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I wonder when that happened.
Perhaps at birth. https://www.webmd.com/allergies/deviated-septum#1
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Perhaps at birth. https://www.webmd.com/allergies/deviated-septum#1
Yep.
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I wonder when that happened.
Daniella quickly tired of his snoring.
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Daniella quickly tired of his snoring.
Well played, sir.